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It's not a big deal? You are ing delusional.
Because it isn't. They cheated, they'll get punished, end of story. Every team will continue to find ways to cheat to get an edge. That's sports.
It's only a big deal because it's the Patriots and everybody loves to hate them.
It's not a big deal? You are ing delusional.
Tell me what signal stealing helped Ellis Hobbs return a kickoff 108 yards?
What signal stealing helped Randy Moss beat triple coverage for a touchdown?
Signal stealing is done without video assistance anyways, by EVERY team, and it provides you with a marginal advantage. You still have to execute.
That is why every player and coach that was asked about it said it would be a huge advantage. The only person to say it wouldn't be an advantage has been you and.................Sean Salisbury. Watching you defend this is quite entertaining.
I've always liked Simmons...untill this year after the fest of the Boston Celtics getting screwed out of a top pick and now this...
Of course they're going to say it's a big deal. They see blood in the water and they're all ready to kick the Patriots while they're down. They want the biggest punishment possible to be dropped on New England so they'll say whatever they can to make the Patriots look as bad as possible. I've seen plenty of non-Simmons journalists who realize how extremely overhyped this story is.
This is just anti-Patriots bias at it's best.
By the time this is all over they'll have found a way to pin Chandra Levy and the blonde Aruba girl's deaths on Belichick as well.
How is this just anti-Patriots bias at it's best? Were the Patriots framed?
Your team ed up, deal with it.
For you to tell me that it gave them no advantage is ludicrous. Have you ever played football? Imagine knowing wether or not the defense was going to be blitzing you. Imagine knowing if the defense was playing a run or pass coverage. Imagine knowing exactly what zones they were playing. It's like playing Madden 08 and peeking at what play your buddy chose. All you have to do after that is execute. The guesswork is taken out of the game. For a guy like Tom Brady, knowing these things is a HUGE advantage.
I don't see how it's an advantage when every other team is stealing signals too.
And you've still got to execute. Everyone can know the blitz is coming but if you still can't stop it, who cares?
I give up.
I'll just wait for the punishment to be handed down to the cheating team.
Having inside knowledge of a teams signals, combined with the obvious talent of the Patriots and the gameplanning ability of Belichick does create a serious compe ive advantage.
We already know that Brady is an excellent quarterback at reading defenses. If he approaches the line knowing exactly where a blitz is coming (even when disguised) and has a play called accordingly, the guy won't even need to adjust his protection or hot routes; all he would have to do is execute.
So even though everybody cheats, the Patriots double-cheat because they had the sense to get smart players on their team?
You're whipped and you know it. Take a step back and look at yourself, do you really want to be the TPark of Pats fans? Do you really want to rationalize cheating just because it's your team doing it? TPark keeps sucking Ankiel no matter how much evidence is against him, and you're doing the exact same thing with the Pats. Pathetic.
I actually like the Pats. I like them a of a lot more than the Colts/Bengals/Steelers, etc. but I also recognize cheating when I see it.
Nice spin there. I was just trying to present an example of how having fore knowledge of a teams signals could be advantageous for a team like the Patriots.
But hey, if you wanna be defensive about it be my guest. I've been fairly neutral.
500k fine for belicheck, 250k for pats org, first round draft pick lost. second and third round picks gone if they miss postseason.
Having foreknowledge would be advantageous for EVERY team, not just the Patriots. Why single them out as if it's somehow worse when they do it?
They got caught.
Show me proof of other teams illegally videotaping opponents.
Simmons is very funny, but attaching a "gate" at the end of every scandal is horrid, and has been annoying for at least 15 years.
The whole referring to every scandal with "-Gate" at the end had it's worst moment ever when the Michael Irvin training camp incident got referred to as ScissorsGate.
They only lose the first if they make the postseason...but they have SF's #1 so it really doesn't sting as much.500k fine for belicheck, 250k for pats org, first round draft pick lost. second and third round picks gone if they miss postseason.
There is an asterik next to 99. Not because the Spurs won, but because it was a shortened season. Doesnt make the le less legitimate or whatever the you thought I was trying to say.
Just that it was a shortened season. Its to inform the reader that 99 was a shortened season. Because looking at the scoring leaders from 99 would probably raise some eyebrows in comparison to past years.
Not everyone is attacking you, dont be so defensive about a ing sports team.
You misunderstood my post. Im not being defensive nor do I feel I was being attacked nor was I attacking you. You sound though as if you thought I was attacking you given your response. I was just debating a topic. The thing you do in a forum like this.There is an asterik next to 99. Not because the Spurs won, but because it was a shortened season. Doesnt make the le less legitimate or whatever the you thought I was trying to say.
Just that it was a shortened season. Its to inform the reader that 99 was a shortened season. Because looking at the scoring leaders from 99 would probably raise some eyebrows in comparison to past years.
Not everyone is attacking you, dont be so defensive about a ing sports team
I went to NBA.com and according to them, there is no asterisk. There was none listed on the le for that year or one in the final standings.
I understand that people think there is an asterisk and I could understand one by "1998-99 Season" although, given the number of games, one can tell there were less games played. I could also see one by various stats where all you see is the number of points, rebounds, assists, etc. and you see they are distinctly lower than other years.
My point is that, per the NBA, there is no official asterisk listed.
Every team had a legitimate chance to win that '99 championship, the fact that most players spent the lockout time pounding Big Macs and not staying in shape doesn't mean the Spurs le should be invalidated.
Belichick's press conference today is just more proof that they cheated.
So who wants to talk about the game against San Diego this weekend? That's the only thing on my mind right now, too.
Game of the week.So who wants to talk about the game against San Diego this weekend? That's the only thing on my mind right now, too.
It should be a of a contest.
Chargers are pissed about letting the Pats take the divisional game from them last year, Pats are pissed that the Chargers mainly LT are talking bout them, should be a good game with lots of big hits.
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