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  1. #51
    Wow great response. Sounds like someone trying to find something that isn't there.

    Besides that aren't you out of context? Try telling that line to me again knowing that overwhelming majority of the NBA and NFL are black compared to when blacks where the minority when those players played.
    How the am I out of context. Just because you cheer for a black player on your favorite team doesn't mean . I was pointing out that you will see many racists out cheering for their favorite team which includes the black players, but these same black players mean little to nothing to them off the court. For example, you can go to The Club forum or Political Forum and see many instances of racism that goes unchallenged here, but those same posters will go to the sports forums and cheer for their favorite teams.

  2. #52
    How the am I out of context. Just because you cheer for a black player on your favorite team doesn't mean . I was pointing out that you will see many racists out cheering for their favorite team which includes the black players, but these same black players mean little to nothing to them off the court. For example, you can go to The Club forum or Political Forum and see many instances of racism that goes unchallenged here, but those same posters will go to the sports forums and cheer for their favorite teams.
    You are out of context because of the time era.

    I can't make excuses for the people on this forum, but there are nearly 10,000 registered members. Can you name even 25 that you are positive are racist?

    To the contrary, I see a lot of white posters who idolize the black players and go out of their way to say I don't care if you're purple blah blah blah...

    Off the court, I don't give a damn about anybody either.

    And it would help if there was more black people on the forum to have a better representation of the population.

  3. #53
    How the am I out of context. Just because you cheer for a black player on your favorite team doesn't mean . I was pointing out that you will see many racists out cheering for their favorite team which includes the black players, but these same black players mean little to nothing to them off the court. For example, you can go to The Club forum or Political Forum and see many instances of racism that goes unchallenged here, but those same posters will go to the sports forums and cheer for their favorite teams.
    You know I have to conceed a good point when I see it. The more I think about it, the more I agree with this.

    Hard to argue with you there.

  4. #54
    Bottom line is that McNabb gets criticized because he is in Philly and hasn't won a Super Bowl. Playing the race card doesn't hold up. He is a drama queen. He needs to shut up and quit making excuses. Go out there and play. He is a very good QB. How come we didn't hear his crying when he was getting all the love from Campbell Soups and EA Sports w/Madden???

  5. #55
    It gets me when people try to claim they are not racist just because they like a black player who plays on their team. Try telling that to Jim Brown or Bill Russell.
    It gets me when people say they like Mexicans just because they root for Jeff Garcia and Tony Romo.

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    It gets me when people try to claim they are not racist just because they like a black player who plays on their team. Try telling that to Jim Brown or Bill Russell.
    Good point but not every white fan who roots for black players on their favorite team is a racist. Nor do all white fans hold black athletes to different standards.
    Last edited by samikeyp; 09-19-2007 at 10:39 AM. Reason: because I briefly forgot how to type!

  7. #57
    That being said, you can't tell me that you all don't judge a black qb harder than a white one.
    You can't tell me that you all don't judge a Mexican QB harder than a white or black one.

    Tony Romo always gets trashed and he was murdered over the fumbled snap. It went on throughout the entire offseason.

    Jeff Garcia is been critized plenty, sometimes unfairly, so those critics are all racists.

    The biggest racist being Terrell Owens when he openly questioned Jeff Garcia's sexuality.

    Terrell Owens, and others like him, are all racists.

  8. #58
    You can't tell me that you all don't judge a Mexican QB harder than a white or black one.

    Tony Romo always gets trashed and he was murdered over the fumbled snap. It went on throughout the entire offseason.

    Jeff Garcia is been critized plenty, sometimes unfairly, so those critics are all racists.

    The biggest racist being Terrell Owens when he openly questioned Jeff Garcia's sexuality.

    Terrell Owens, and others like him, are all racists.
    Huh? Romo got ripped because he single handedly muffed the game away.

    Garcia got huge credit after taking the Eagles to the playoffs.

    How is it racist to question someone's sexuality?

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    How is it racist to question someone's sexuality?
    Its not...its phobic but not racist.

  10. #60
    Good point but every white fan who roots for black players on their favorite team is a racist.
    Wow Mikey, every white fan is a racist?

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    Wow Mikey, every white fan is a racist?


    Thanks bro...it is now fixed!

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    Thanks bro...it is now fixed!
    That one was almost as funny as Thunder Dan's "Joe Thomas hit two blacks to spring 30 yard runs" typo.

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    True.

  14. #64
    Huh? Romo got ripped because he single handedly muffed the game away.

    Garcia got huge credit after taking the Eagles to the playoffs.

    How is it racist to question someone's sexuality?
    phobia is a type or racism.

    Plus, T.O. is assuming that the entire Mexican race is sexual.

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    phobia is a type or racism.
    this is going in my sig

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    All Hispanics in the NFL are being brought down by critics.

  17. #67
    Anthony Munoz sucked.

  18. #68
    Anthony Munoz sucked.
    Isn't he in the Hall Of Fame??

    You're a ing racist!!!!!!!

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    Isn't he in the Hall Of Fame??

    You're a ing racist!!!!!!!
    Damn straight.

    He's also gay.

    phobia or racism? I choose both.

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    McNabb a drama queen? Maybe.

    All I know is "The Media" (not Madden nor Campbell's soup) looks at them by race. Why else are we reminded how Doug Williams was the first black QB to play in the SB or that Tony Dungy was the first black HC to win the SB.

    Say what you want about him and what he said, but there is some truth to it.

    However small it is.

  21. #71
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    McNabb in sucks. He needs to quit already.

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    McNabb in sucks. He needs to quit already.
    his coach does to

  23. #73
    Damn straight.

    He's also gay.

    phobia or racism? I choose both.
    You phobic racist!!!!

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    From Steve Czaban

    http://czabe.com/daily/archives/2007..._spraying.html


    Donovan McNabb is a pussy.

    This does not mean that all black quarterbacks are pussies. Just him.

    What if - instead of McNabb’s ‘theory’ that black quarterbacks are more criticized than white ones – a white quarterback put out the theory that black QBs are just too “thin skinned” to absorb the natural heat that comes with the job?

    How would that go over?

    Would that white QB be praised for “at least speaking his mind, even if you don’t agree with him?”

    I’m gonna doubt that, and say “no.”

    I think it is beyond argument that “Quarterback, NFL team” is the SINGLE MOST criticized job in professional sports. Period.

    It’s one hot mofo of a “kitchen” so to speak.

    To even “go there” that somehow Peyton Manning was given a bed of soft rose petals for all the years he and the Colts got chumped in the playoffs, is ludicrous. Somebody better get out the newspaper clippings for Donovan, or at least check his internet connection.

    I know. I sat on my radio show and defended the guy when callers, experts, and everybody else took turns whacking at the Peyton Pinata. I said, “you people are nuts, he’s a great player, and he’ll win at least one, maybe more les.”

    And oh how they laughed.

    Rex Grossman is getting slaughtered as we speak in Chicago. Kyle Boller is a pariah to injured (ahem, black) starter Steve McNair in Baltimore. Ryan Leaf remains far more of a bust “punchline” than Akili Smith or Andre Ware ever was.

    Today’s NFL is a black quarterback nirvana. Some of the richest contracts are given to black quarterbacks. Teams will defend their franchise black QB to the very end of a pit bull leash if necessary. Even scrub black QBs who should rightfully be out of the league are allowed to hang on as little used 3rd stringers: see Wright, Anthony et. al.

    Black quarterbacks get marketed like they are Jesus Christ with a golden arm. Vince Young did little more than author a handful of highlight runs last year for a non-playoff team, and now he’s on the cover of Madden and has already been to Honolulu for the Pro Bowl.

    Some of McNabb’s biggest critics have been…. wait for it… BLACK themselves!!

    Like J. Whyatt Mondesire, the Philadelphia chapter head of the NAACP. Who wrote a scathing column in the Philadelphia Sun that said, in part: "In essence Donny, you are mediocre at best," Mondesire wrote. "And trying to disguise that fact behind some concocted reasoning that African American quarterbacks who can scramble and who can run the ball are somehow lesser field generals ... is more insulting off the field than on."

    The freaking mayor of Philadelphia John Street blasted the choice of McNabb over Ricky Williams on draft day! I’m not sure that he ever apologized for it, even after the continued success and trip to the Super Bowl.

    And then there’s Terrell Owens, no McNabb fan he. Did white America get up in arms because a black receiver like Owens dissed a Pro Bowl white QB like Jeff Garcia?

    McNabb doth protest too much about all of this.

    Yeah, there was a time not long ago that black QBs in college had no shot of playing that position in the pros. But those days are sooooo over, it’s a joke to keep bringing it up. Today, excellent WHITE college quarterbacks – Heisman winners, some – will be told: “Look pal, it’s either play safety, or go sell insurance.”

    Is anybody upset that Matt Jones is playing wide receiver? Is anybody mad that Eric Crouch is playing semi-pro ball? Is anybody steamed that Drew Henson hasn’t been a hit?

    Come on, people. This is absurd.

    In back to back years, a very good white QB in college fell like a stone in the draft, as another equal or lesser “decorated” black quarterback was taken ahead of them. Was there an outcry? Of course not.

    Quarterback is a thankless, blame filled job, with fleeting glory, and a million fans who believe YOU are the very problem with the football team they root for.

    I’m thrilled that the position has now been FULLY and PERMANENTLY opened to black players coming out of college. Now go cash those huge checks, shut the f--- up, and play.

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