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too bad you can't argue my point.
The Rams were flat out better than the Patriots. The Patriots still won.
The Rams were flat out better than the ans, but at least they made a game of it.
No question I'll take Brady over Elway. I just might take McNair in his prime over Elway as well.
too bad you can't argue my point.
The Rams also had no defense. If they had an elite defense, they probably would have become the greatest team in NFL history.
Also, Brady didn't have to worry about Lawrence Taylor or Charles Haley being in his face every play, did he?
oh, and as for your argument that he wasn't known for being a clutch performer, that it was only the Browns comeback... Elway holds the record for most 4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives with 47.
game set match.
Have the broncos ever lost that badly at home to the bolts?
great for him. he still couldn't win a Super Bowl.
I would just like to interject in this thread to say I'm glad Truth didn't harm himself after yesterday's game.
nope. he won 2.
Not until Jay Cutler became their QB.
If all that matters is Ws, you know the most important stat for QBs as I've been told, where is Otto Graham in these lists?
the rams d was fairly solid with lovie as coordinator. not elite, but they were good.
playing without a face mask.
IMO, they had an inflated statistical defense, due to their offense putting up so many points, thus opposing teams were forced to score as quickly as possible, often leading to forced passes and mistakes, much like the Colts D did the other year, when they were ranked in the top 5 in most all categories, although everyone knows that their defense truly was not that good, and it was exploited by Pittsburgh who was able to contain their offense, and werent forced to score quickly themselves. Or an easier example... the Suns defense, which everyone knows sucks, but statistically it looked good, but it was because they were scoring so efficiently, that opposing teams were forced to play their style, but were not capable of doing so, which is why teams like the Spurs always beat them, because they know how to contain their offense.
<<<<<<<<<<<< Proud fan of the team to give the Broncos their worst beatdown at home since the merger.
"Get the President because we are killing the Patriots" That was a Classic Sharpe Line. As for the hating on Elway, its pretty sad. Yes TD was the man in that superbowl but dont like Elway didnt play a HUGE role in that win. Plays that son of a made in that game were HUGE. Remember when he flipped over after he dived to convert that 3rd down? What about the critical 3rd down and 6 pass to Shannon Sharpe in the afc le game to end the Steelers season? Or the dominating final game Elway ended his career on against the Falcons? ALL great players have had other GREAT players on their roster. Brady had an elite Defense and Vinaterri to help him win 3 of those superbowls. Without Vinaterri or that sick of a D, Brady hasnt won . Should he not be called a great qb because of that? It is weak to hate on Elways and claim how he is NOT one of the greatest qb's of all time.
All in all it takes a team to win. If you just have 1 star player and nothing but scrubs, you arent going to win. You need talent around you to do so.
What the ? Mono just deleted a re ed post.
It was something like this:
Elway was as responsible for the Broncos Superbowls as Roethlisberger was for the Steelers.
there's no point in furthering this.
I was never impressed with Elway and never will be. Riding Terrell Davis to two Super Bowls does nothing to change my opinion of him.
If everybody wants to talk about a few comeback victories against the ing Cleveland Browns then have fun. He deserves credit for leading a comeback victory against the Browns. Woo ing hoo. He's also the guy that got bukkaked by every NFC team he faced.
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What made you delete it? Did you realize how stupid it sounded?
Nothing stupid about it at all. It's a fact. He rode TD to two Super Bowl victories. He didn't play well in either Super Bowl, and they threw him a mercy MVP so that people would forget his complete failure in SUper Bowls past.
I just don't want every Elway apologist down my throat telling me that 55-10 wasn't his fault.
You have not answered the question. Why did you delete your post?
I already answered it you stupid , go back and ing read.
38-14 bag.
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