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[Wild Cobra]

Let me know when you have a solid and convincing 1500 ton fact.

You see, that's my point. I have acknowledged error, yet you want me to back up something I have retracted.

Go away troll.

[ChumpDumper]

No, I actually wanted to know whether you were claiming the ISG was incompetent or deceitful,, then you presented the third option that you were so ignorant of the ISG's mission you didn't know what the you were talking about -- a contention bolstered by the fact that you made up 1500 tons of yellow cake uranium out of whole cloth.

So to put this all to rest, I accept your admission that you have no idea what you are posting about and I will keep this option in mind whenever I see you pulling some other fact out of another dimension or your ass, whichever is more convenient for someone so intelligent. I will also allow for the possibility that your ass is indeed another dimension full of facts and viewpoints that we below you on the "+" intelligence scale could never hope to comprehend.

[exstatic]

Wild Cobra's self-aggrandizing efforts at relying upon "facts" that have been concocted, his claims that context matters only when a conservative is caught in a potentially-misconstrued statement, and his ongoing claims to hold some intellectually superior position over those who take the time to discount his position actually make me long for the days of Yonivore's plaigarism of conservative blogs.

No, I actually wanted to know whether you were claiming the ISG was incompetent or deceitful,, then you presented the third option that you were so ignorant of the ISG's mission you didn't know what the you were talking about -- a contention bolstered by the fact that you made up 1500 tons of yellow cake uranium out of whole cloth.

So to put this all to rest, I accept your admission that you have no idea what you are posting about and I will keep this option in mind whenever I see you pulling some other fact out of another dimension or your ass, whichever is more convenient for someone so intelligent. I will also allow for the possibility that your ass is indeed another dimension full of facts and viewpoints that we below you on the "+" intelligence scale could never hope to comprehend.

PZWN3D+++, or as the V-crew might say, you're getting scoffed on the regular. My interpretation is that you are that poor bas on the Sprite SubLymonal commercial that gets crushed in the collision between the Green Sumo and the Yellow Sumo.

[Wild Cobra]

No, I actually wanted to know whether you were claiming the ISG was incompetent or deceitful,, then you presented the third option that you were so ignorant of the ISG's mission you didn't know what the you were talking about

So you are narrow minded about the ordeal. Deceitful doesn't fit as I have never seen any evidence to that. Incompetent doesn't fit because they were not allowed to finish their job. Have you missed past discussions where Iraq was hindering them? Because they were unable to do their job and not by their fault, they returned home.

-- a contention bolstered by the fact that you made up 1500 tons of yellow cake uranium out of whole cloth.

I cannot back up that claim, and said I may be in error. I still know what I saw in the past, I just cannot find the references. I clearly remember the 2000 number because I thought it coincidental because a ton is also 2000 lbs. Maybe what I saw wasn't a true account, maybe it was.

So to put this all to rest, I accept your admission that you have no idea what you are posting about and I will keep this option in mind whenever I see you pulling some other fact out of another dimension or your ass, whichever is more convenient for someone so intelligent. I will also allow for the possibility that your ass is indeed another dimension full of facts and viewpoints that we below you on the "+" intelligence scale could never hope to comprehend.

Sorry, not on this issue.

I haven't looked much for the 2,000 ton claims, but here is an interesting article. Besides the 500 tons found at the Tuwaitha site and accounted for line by line purchases of it, consider this:

Later, under pressure from the U.N. Special Commission and the IAEA, Iraq acknowledged that it had processed more than 1,300 tons of yellowcake in this manner at the al Qaim site. Locally mined and processed uranium is not subject to international controls.

The above is from March 1993 Security Affairs.

When you add up other yellowcake here and there, or more that came from similar mining adventures, it could easily be the 2000 tons. I still don't have an answer for reports of this yellowcakes location or disposal.

This issue isn't worth my time, especially since, in true troll form, you will never accept my answers.

[ChumpDumper]

So you are narrow minded about the ordeal. Deceitful doesn't fit as I have never seen any evidence to that. Incompetent doesn't fit because they were not allowed to finish their job. Have you missed past discussions where Iraq was hindering them? Because they were unable to do their job and not by their fault, they returned home.

You clearly have the ISG investigation after the 2003 war confused with the IAEA investigation after the 1991 war.

The above is from March 1993 Security Affairs.

Sorry, the Duelfer Report is from 2004.

When you add up other yellowcake here and there, or more that came from similar mining adventures, it could easily be the 2000 tons. I still don't have an answer for reports of this yellowcakes location or disposal.

Things can add up quickly when you make them up.

This issue isn't worth my time, especially since, in true troll form, you will never accept my answers.

Which is why you keep responding, passing off 14 year old reports as current and making up tons of yellowcake uranium to add up to 2000.

[Wild Cobra]

You clearly have the ISG investigation after the 2003 war confused with the IAEA investigation after the 1991 war.

Wow... you're actually right. You finally caught me in an actual mistake. I did mix them up. So what, acronyms are easy to confuse. Doesn't matter, the facts stated were consistent with what I said. The ISG report only recounted the declared materials.

Sorry, the Duelfer Report is from 2004.

Yes, OK, and I have gone through that in the past. I think I have the unclassified parts archived someplace.

Things can add up quickly when you make them up.

OK smartass. Tell me what happened to the 1300 tons of yellowcake. Another account only has it at 900, but tell me. What happened to it?

My point initially was there was a great deal of it. There was an account I cannot verify at the 2000 ton mark. There was clearly more than the 486 tons in the ISG report. Are you positive the 2000 ton number is incorrect?

486 + 1300 = 1786, from only two locations. Another 212 could very well be possible.

Stop sidetracking the issue.

If you want to fault me for something significant, my claim was he could have received more yellowcake, not claimed, possible from Niger. I assumed that because of the 2000 ton information of the past. In retrospect, it appears most of the remaining 1500 (1514) tons came from Iraq's own mining operations that didn't need to be declared. Assuming the 2000 number is right, there is still some from an unknown source.

Which is why you keep responding, passing off 14 year old reports as current and making up tons of yellowcake uranium to add up to 2000.

Bull . I never said it was current, and I said the 2000 ton claim was old. I was supporting that he had more than the 486 with the 1300 from the one mining operation.

Stop accusing me of incorrect statements if you cannot keep yours strait.

[ChumpDumper]

Wow... you're actually right. You finally caught me in an actual mistake. I did mix them up. So what, acronyms are easy to confuse. Doesn't matter, the facts stated were consistent with what I said. The ISG report only recounted the declared materials.

Again, you have a poor understanding of the mission of the ISG. I'll let you look it up.

Yes, OK, and I have gone through that in the past. I think I have the unclassified parts archived someplace.

And what does it say?

OK smartass. Tell me what happened to the 1300 tons of yellowcake. Another account only has it at 900, but tell me. What happened to it?

Well, you are just proving you don't read the links that are provided to you. The facility that 1993 article claims processed all that yellowcake was destroyed during Desert Storm and never rebuilt. The ISG found that before it was destroyed, the facility produced approximately 168 tons of yellowcake. All this can be easily found by clicking one of the links in this very thread.

My point initially was there was a great deal of it. There was an account I cannot verify at the 2000 ton mark. There was clearly more than the 486 tons in the ISG report. Are you positive the 2000 ton number is incorrect?

I haven't seen anything from you to support your contention that it is correct.

486 + 1300 = 1786, from only two locations. Another 212 could very well be possible.

Your 1300 number is erroneous, so this is meaningless.

Stop sidetracking the issue.

The issue is that you made up a number, then scrambled to find a smaller number that also turned out to be about ten times higher than the actual number that had already been provided to you.

If you want to fault me for something significant, my claim was he could have received more yellowcake, not claimed, possible from Niger. I assumed that because of the 2000 ton information of the past. In retrospect, it appears most of the remaining 1500 (1514) tons came from Iraq's own mining operations that didn't need to be declared. Assuming the 2000 number is right, there is still some from an unknown source.

Your nubmers are all wrong, and the ISG found no evidence Iraq was trying to acquire more yellowcake. In fact the only relevant do ent they have found is one refusing an offer of yellowcake from Uganda.

Bull . I never said it was current, and I said the 2000 ton claim was old. I was supporting that he had more than the 486 with the 1300 from the one mining operation.

And it turns out your 1300 number is also bull .

Stop accusing me of incorrect statements if you cannot keep yours strait.

I accuse you of making up numbers. You have done nothing to disprove it.

[Wild Cobra]

Again, you have a poor understanding of the mission of the ISG. I'll let you look it up.

I'm not going to bother looking it up. Can't you tell, I don't care to rehash things to detail that are 3+ years old. This isn't a detail that matters to the reasons why the topic originated.

Well, you are just proving you don't read the links that are provided to you. The facility that 1993 article claims processed all that yellowcake was destroyed during Desert Storm and never rebuilt. The ISG found that before it was destroyed, the facility produced approximately 168 tons of yellowcake. All this can be easily found by clicking one of the links in this very thread.

I know that the 168 was claimed and accounted for. I also know the capacity was far more. The fact is, we don't know the facts. You are a fool to thing the 168 tons is a certain number.

I haven't seen anything from you to support your contention that it is correct.

Your 1300 number is erroneous, so this is meaningless.

It's not my number, I cited a source that may or may not be accurate. I'm pretty sure I stated it as an uncertainty...

Stop being an ass please.

The issue is that you made up a number, then scrambled to find a smaller number that also turned out to be about ten times higher than the actual number that had already been provided to you.

Idiot.

I did not make the numbers up. If you are only going to harass me, then I will start ignoring you again. Have anything relavant?

Your nubmers are all wrong, and the ISG found no evidence Iraq was trying to acquire more yellowcake. In fact the only relevant do ent they have found is one refusing an offer of yellowcake from Uganda.

And it turns out your 1300 number is also bull .

Known proven numbers do not mean that there wasn't more. You know better than that don't you?

I accuse you of making up numbers. You have done nothing to disprove it.

I never made them up, and you either know that, or are a total troll.

I already explained why I brought them up. You are either being a troll, or cannot understand my points.

Which is it?

[cholo]

dude his intelligence is so high they created a new scale