So maybe the Houston deal wasn't entirely a salary dump

[ChumpDumper]

And I wasn't calling you a liar about the playing time contract; I simply believe you are mistaken.

I am calling you a liar when you say the US media has verified every one of your claims.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Where is that NBA announcement and US report saying the deal for expansion into Europe is completed?

See how stupid you acts? Looks at this even be promised play time by Dawson IS LAW how sad Greek know Amerikan law better than you?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_contract

So TRUTH be even just promise him even if it NOT even in contract this break law by what Van Gundy do and Van Gundy = crooks just like example

Texaco vs. Penzoil case

It has been said, "An oral contract is as good as the paper it's written on," but this is not always the case. For example, In 1984 after Getty Oil was sold to Pennzoil in a handshake deal, Texaco made a higher offer, and the company was sold to Texaco, but a lawsuit by Pennzoil put them in a winning position, being awarded $11.1 billion, later reduced to $9.1 billion, but increased again by interest and penalties.




And you acts like Billy not have reason to be mad? Van Gundy is crazy idiot who can be sued and ruin Rocket team so much owner not even like mention his name but some "fan expert" like to make it look like Billy just liar.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

And I wasn't calling you a liar about the playing time contract; I simply believe you are mistaken.

I am calling you a liar when you say the US media has verified every one of your claims.

I calls liar when say Billy meet Parker, have dinner and Parker ask him and Spurs stay. Next 2 day it reported. I get 0 apology anyone here.

I have say it true Popovich want Spanoulis say but Billy have to go because mom so sick and Van Gundy make Billy hate Amerika experiences so much.

Now this story from Popovish STILL I get 0 apology and STILL be accuses of be liar. Amerikan must lie so much they not even able to understand in some other country can be people actual tell truth.

[hater]

so what if he was promised playing time? he did not impress the coach period. end of story.

[ChumpDumper]

See how stupid you acts? Looks at this even be promised play time by Dawson IS LAW how sad Greek know Amerikan law better than you?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_contract

So TRUTH be even just promise him even if it NOT even in contract this break law by what Van Gundy do and Van Gundy = crooks just like example

If this is true, then Spatulis can sue the Rockets and Van Gundy in court for millions of dollars. That's how it works in Ameriga.

It is not true, however, so he can't.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

so what if he was promised playing time? he did not impress the coach period. end of story.

And like say this mean Van Gundy is liar not Billy. Why people so stupid on this? Even make up lies like no promise of play time in NBA?

Just like no promise sell Getty Oil to Penzoil to right? Amerika have law to just like as have law. Billy and agent not stupid even if so many fan are.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

If this is true, then Spatulis can sue the Rockets and Van Gundy in court for millions of dollars. That's how it works in Ameriga.

It is not true, however, so he can't.

Yes it is true. Amerika need get better schools for citizin!

[ChumpDumper]

I calls liar when say Billy meet Parker, have dinner and Parker ask him and Spurs stay. Next 2 day it reported. I get 0 apology anyone here.

I have say it true Popovich want Spanoulis say but Billy have to go because mom so sick and Van Gundy make Billy hate Amerika experiences so much.

Now this story from Popovish STILL I get 0 apology and STILL be accuses of be liar. Amerikan must lie so much they not even able to understand in some other country can be people actual tell truth.

But you did lie about the US media verifying everything you have posted.

In Ameriga, one lie makes you a liar -- and lies are not easily forgotten on this board.

You just lied a few minutes ago, so you are a liar. I would sue you if I could.

[Indazone]

Well lots of Rockets and Ex- Rockets playing for JVG are not exactly singing his praises these days. Among those present and former Rockets are Francis, Mobely, Nachbar, Wells, Yao even dissed him indirectly in the press. For Yao to say something goes completely against the man's character. Pop wanted to give him a chance but he blew town before even giving it a try. That is Spanoulis's decision but I don't think it was a good one personally. I think he would have benefited much much more playing for a fair man like Popovich. That's all anyone wants when they go to work right? A fair shake.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

But you did lie about the US media verifying everything you have posted.

In Ameriga, one lie makes you a liar -- and lies are not easily forgotten on this board.

You just lied a few minutes ago, so you are a liar. I would sue you if I could.

You understand what I mean yes? I say what I say have been true then reportes by US press. You think they report every thing is what I mean?

Stop try to twist my word you do same as Van Gundy. Billy say "In as I have ball in hands and allowed run pick and roll"

Van Gundy translate this as "he tell me he is T-mac of Athens"

STOP twists words of what Greek say.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes it is true. Amerika need get better schools for citizin!

Then lawsuits regarding oral promises of playing time should have already taken place in the 60-year history of the NBA. Surely wikipedia has articles explaining the case law, rulings and awards. On behalf of all Amerigans, thanks in advance for posting all those on this board.

[ChumpDumper]

You understand what I mean yes? I say what I say have been true then reportes by US press. You think they report every thing is what I mean?

You said the NBA expansion into Europe was a done deal.

That was not reported by the US press, in fact they reported quite the opposite.

You should have pointed out this very glaring error on your record in your claim to omnipotence.

[Indazone]

Ah Kill Bill, give it up, you won't change Chumpdumpers mind. Let it roll off your back. What can be done about it now? Spanoulis has gone back to Europe.

He's injured. What can we really know about his future? He might make it back to the NBA someday or he might not. Pana might someday be an NBA team but it's not a done deal today. All we can really do now is talk about what might or might not have been. Sorta like all that discussion about how great a Center Bill Walton might have been if his feet weren't so bad.

Let the reports come out in the Press. Over time, the truth generally has a way of coming out. So if the press reports what you have been saying, then you are vindicated, simple as that.

[Reggie Miller]

I, for one, tend to believe Kill Bill Pana and V-Span when it comes to Van Gundy. Nothing has been said about JVG that seems inconsistent with the man's character and behavior. Whether or not V-Span would have succeeded on another team is another matter. We will never know.

[ChumpDumper]

I believe most of it.

I just don't care all that much.

[Reggie Miller]

I believe most of it.

I just don't care all that much.

Fair enough. I wouldn't care, except that this "controversy" and my aluminium foil hat* help to block out the 24-7 Kobe Bryant coverage.

* I recommend Renoylds Wrap. Sometimes generic foil just isn't up to the job.

[Obstructed_View]

You understand what I mean yes? I say what I say have been true then reportes by US press. You think they report every thing is what I mean?

Stop try to twist my word you do same as Van Gundy. Billy say "In as I have ball in hands and allowed run pick and roll"

Van Gundy translate this as "he tell me he is T-mac of Athens"

STOP twists words of what Greek say.

Somebody needs to go find a sheep. What time to the bars open? Why the do you even bother hanging out on a website for an NBA team when Drill Bill washed out and had to run home to his mommy? Seriously. It's hard enough trying to get past your semi literate ramblings. At this point I hope that ing lame little hobbit never comes back to the states and that you might stop fighting for his honor.

Stick to something you know, like pederasty...

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You said the NBA expansion into Europe was a done deal.

That was not reported by the US press, in fact they reported quite the opposite.

You should have pointed out this very glaring error on your record in your claim to omnipotence.

NO! I say look what reportes in Athens media then give you links. You make up what I say. I give you link to Athens media reportes it. If you thinks this is such lie why not emails them and complain to them?

[ChumpDumper]

NO! I say look what reportes in Athens media then give you links. You make up what I say. I give you link to Athens media reportes it. If you thinks this is such lie why not emails them and complain to them?

Don't back down now. You said this had to be true because some Greek guy said he heard it on the biggest sports radio station in the biggest city in the United States. You perpetuated the lie, defended the lie and repeated the lie; then proceeded to insult my country just like you did today when you were proven wrong.

[Indazone]

The only thing that was resolved today is that Popovich wished that Vspan would have stayed which agrees with what Kill Bill said earlier.

[ChumpDumper]

The only thing that was resolved today is that Popovich wished that Vspan would have stayed which agrees with what Kill Bill said earlier.

I never cared enough to dispute that, and Pop has lied to the press in the past.

[Indazone]

Yeah, well like Pop, I wished he would have stayed too. I can understand the bad taste. You sort of get pissed off at them for awhile cause they didn't try when everyone else was busting a nut to make it. It's like someone who enrolls in the US Navy SEALS but then decides its too much, quits and goes home. What is everyone else on your SEAL team gonna think? I wish he had been tougher, told JVG to off in public and stayed with the Spurs but he didn't. Maybe some day he'll be back and get a 2nd chance if he works hard. Until then, good luck in whatever team and league he's playing in.

[nfg3]

we ARE talking about JVG aren't we? So it doesn't surprise me what happened to V-span at all. Anyway the FO and head coach should at least be in agreement as to who they want to play for them. The situation that occurred was ridiculous and wouldn't have happened here. I thought he could have made a contribution to the Spurs but if he doesn't want to be here then adios amigo. If you don't want to play for the world champs then that tells me there are some pretty strong reasons involved.

[hater]

the only thing I don't understand is that if Pop really wanted him, why did he not speak to him directly? the only thing I can think of is vaginoulis never returned his calls

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

the only thing I don't understand is that if Pop really wanted him, why did he not speak to him directly? the only thing I can think of is vaginoulis never returned his calls

His agent take the calls I think.