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    Ruffy RuffnReadyOzStyle's Avatar
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    As for improving the standards, I see this as the likely course of action, but I do wonder. This technology of energy efficiency is already with us. Is Australia making it's own plasma displays rather than Japanese technology, or buying from manufacturers that lack such concerns?
    We have the same brands you do - Japanese, Korean and Chinese mostly. Many of the better brands will pass the initial standards, but the cheaper Chinese and Korean brands won't, so they won't be allowed to import them until those manufacturers get their together.

    We do the same thing with whitegoods and air-conditioners, and so does the US. I don't see why you're so concerned. It'll just force manufacturers to make better TVs that will SAVE CONSUMERS MONEY.

    As the story says:

    ""By the time the standard came into place, with the industry knowing that the these standards are coming in, they can adjust their supply chains to make sure that the products will [meet the requirements]," he said.

    "Again the history is that all the reputable suppliers will meet the standard."

    The manufacturer's lobbyists are just kicking up a stink because they don't want to do the work they should already have done to reduce the energy consumed by these devices. As i said before, in 25 years fridges have doubled in size yet use 75% less energy. The same will happen with plasmas, but you need MEPS to force manufacturers to act or they'll do nothing.

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    If you buy Energy Star appliances, it's the same as supporting communism.

    Our soldiers in Iraq are fighting and dying for our right to consume resources in a profligate fashion!

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    I wonder if they've considered the manufacturing and transporting of CRT sets, while they may use less energy, what about the energy used to make and transport them?

    In the end maybe it's still less, but hopefully this will just encourage manufacturers to make more energy efficient sets.
    Actually I kinda remember that for the screen size both Plazma and LCD TVs are more efficient. If CRT existed with the currently popular screen sizes 42" and up they would consume more energy.

    And you're absolutely correct on the energy required to manufacture CRT - it has to be more than the new types of TV.

    Anyway stimulating the manufacturers to produce more energy efficient appliances is a good thing so props to Al Gore! (even though he had nothing to do with it )

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    And you're absolutely correct on the energy required to manufacture CRT - it has to be more than the new types of TV.
    I would question that idea. I don't know for fact, but the flat screens require levels of manufacturing not required in CRT manufacturing. The flatness of the glass (or plastic?) is no simple process, especially as the size increases. Take quite a bit of power to make those screens.

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    I would question that idea. I don't know for fact, but the flat screens require levels of manufacturing not required in CRT manufacturing. The flatness of the glass (or plastic?) is no simple process, especially as the size increases. Take quite a bit of power to make those screens.
    A 36" CRT has almost a 100 kg of glass in it. The energy for that alone should be more.

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    A 36" CRT has almost a 100 kg of glass in it. The energy for that alone should be more.
    Not to mention the additional costs associated with transport once the sets are made. They're (much) heavier, so it would cost more per set (and create more emissions) to ship; plus you can fit several times more of the flat screens into a shipping container, so you need more containers to send the same numbers of CRT sets, thus creating more emissions there too.

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