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    I don't think the Spurs will have a problem waiving him...I mean it's not much different than if he rides the IR for the entire season...which is a likelyhood.


    You guys think Holt enjoyed Beno talking in the Media?

    Holt talks less than anyone...if anything would piss him off enough to make him forget his wallet...it's Beno's unwillingness to be a good soldier...


    That's exactly the type of thing that would piss him off IMO.




    Plus...can't some team claim him off waivers and if they do so, they are on the hook for the contract, instead of the Spurs?


    Look at this way...they could always give him(Washington) the money they are scheduled to pay Williams...and his position is a bigger need than Williams.

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    Right, our best hope would be that the Cavs pick him off waivers using their trade exception.

    We could even try to negotiate a slightly discounted buyout if his agent has something lined up overseas.

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    Why the fears about waiving him? It's well established his basketball value is nil. It doesn't matter if he's on the team or not, you're still paying him. So jettison the dregs.

    Whether signing another player, even for super cheap, in that roster space is the enormous cost, that's the question.

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    I don't see any enormous cost in signing Washington.....


    I'll be amazed if Beno finishes this season with the Spurs....I'll also probably be pissed.

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    Waiving Beno makes no sense at all if you don't sign another 3rd string PG. Even if Beno start to be a team cancer, it's better to do like Chicago did with Tim Thomas two years ago and tell Beno to stay at home than waiving him.

    The cheapest solution for Spurs is to waive Williams and sign nobody as 15th player.
    If Spurs keep Williams it will cost them $850K (maybe less if a part of Williams is guaranteed).
    If Spurs keep Washington, it will cost them $1.2M.

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    I don't see any enormous cost in signing Washington.....


    I'll be amazed if Beno finishes this season with the Spurs....I'll also probably be pissed.
    ... and with another ring

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    Waiving Beno makes no sense at all if you don't sign another 3rd string PG. Even if Beno start to be a team cancer, it's better to do like Chicago did with Tim Thomas two years ago and tell Beno to stay at home than waiving him.
    Explain please. Chicago kept Thomas around to see if anyone wanted to trade for him, right? Or the outward possibility he might help out due to team injury or brain-transplant or whatever. Barring the unlikelihood that Beno could help better than a vet off the street, in case of injury (and after Vaughn, Manu, and Barry give it a shot), there evidently is no taker for Beno on the NBA market. What's the sense of keeping him over waiving him? The cost is the same, right?

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    Explain please. Chicago kept Thomas around to see if anyone wanted to trade for him, right?
    Right.
    Even if Spurs don't want Beno to be with the team they can still trade him.
    It can be in a move to go under the Luxury tax or pay less luxury tax with a trade like Beno + cash to pay his salary + some incentives (like cash or 2nd round pick) for a TE. It can too be in a move to get a talented player from a team that wants to rebuild and seeks expiring contracts to go under the cap next summer.

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    Waive the out of him!

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    Don't throw good money after bad. In this case, don't let a prospect go just because you have a worthless player under contract.

    I never understood how it isn't breach of contract when a guy signs to a big deal and then just stops putting forth any effort.

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    I'm going to wave at Beno today.

    Pardon the interruption. Back to the thread.

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    One good preseason game by Darius and now he'll save us from Beno. Seems a little deperate to me. If the Spurs were to waive Beno, It would be more in the Spurs style to land a cheap vet rather than an untested rookie.

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    Seems a little deperate to me.
    I am desperate to get rid of Beno. I can only hope the Spurs are as well.
    It would be more in the Spurs style to land a cheap vet rather than an untested rookie.
    We already have a vet, though he is less cheap than he used to be.

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    One good preseason game by Darius and now he'll save us from Beno. Seems a little deperate to me.
    Such are desperate times.

    Beno is a threat and insult to what is good in humankind and the human heart. We hate him.

    Darius Washington, on the other hand, is at least as good as Will Conroy or any other productive player from the development league. That's miles ahead of Beno at this point.

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    Such are desperate times.

    Beno is a threat and insult to what is good in humankind and the human heart. We hate him.

    Darius Washington, on the other hand, is at least as good as Will Conroy or any other productive player from the development league. That's miles ahead of Beno at this point.
    Exactly. And as I stated earlier. If he were playing in the WNBA, Beno would never come close to the stat line Washington produced last night.

    Washington has displayed some level of talent and many of the intangibles that Beno doesn't have. And at least Washington is continuously trying to improve his game. What the has Beno done to develop since he's been here?

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    I worship Pop, this is everyone's fault but his

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    And now, a totally stupid song parody for a totally stupid parody of a professional basketball player:

    A small white puss
    once played the backcourt
    and Beno was his name-o

    He's short and fat
    loves tacos Y chicas
    but never works on his game-o

    He scrapes his shin
    and sits out six weeks
    and everyone else is to blame-o

    Be-no, you, go!
    Do not let the do'
    knock you to the flo'
    good-bye, your act is lame-o!

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    And now, a totally stupid song parody for a totally stupid parody of a professional basketball player:

    A small white puss
    once played the backcourt
    and Beno was his name-o

    He's short and fat
    loves tacos Y chicas
    but never works on his game-o

    He scrapes his shin
    and sits out six weeks
    and everyone else is to blame-o

    Be-no, you, go!
    Do not let the do'
    knock you to the flo'
    good-bye, your act is lame-o!
    Perhaps I missed this, but has Beno been a notorious regular at both the Taco Cabana and popular S.A night spots during his time in the city?

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    Why the fears about waiving him? It's well established his basketball value is nil. It doesn't matter if he's on the team or not, you're still paying him. So jettison the dregs.

    Whether signing another player, even for super cheap, in that roster space is the enormous cost, that's the question.
    A very small percentage of the population (and this includes NBA GMs and Owners) fully understand - and knows how to work with - the accounting concept of "SUNK COSTS ARE SUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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    waive him and throw him out the door like the fresh prince

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    I am going to take the contrarian view. Beno for his faults has talents that some other NBA basketball players don't have - he is a pure passer and has a fine motion on his shots, and when, he was the 2nd point guard in the past put up pretty good numbers.

    There was a comment on air during the playoffs that Beno would start for many teams, and although, that is highly argueable, he would I believe in the right system (and with renewed confidence) he could be a valuable player.

    What the Spurs should have done was trade him. I believe that is still the plan rather than waiving him.

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    I am going to take the contrarian view. Beno for his faults has talents that some other NBA basketball players don't have - he is a pure passer and has a fine motion on his shots, and when, he was the 2nd point guard in the past put up pretty good numbers.

    There was a comment on air during the playoffs that Beno would start for many teams, and although, that is highly argueable, he would I believe in the right system (and with renewed confidence) he could be a valuable player.

    What the Spurs should have done was trade him. I believe that is still the plan rather than waiving him.
    that must be some fine crack you're smoking

    my shot and pass look good too, does that mean I belong in the NBA? truth is Beno does not belong in an NBA court because he cannot even dribble the ball upcourt when opponent presses.

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    I am going to take the contrarian view. Beno for his faults has talents that some other NBA basketball players don't have - he is a pure passer and has a fine motion on his shots, and when, he was the 2nd point guard in the past put up pretty good numbers.

    There was a comment on air during the playoffs that Beno would start for many teams, and although, that is highly argueable, he would I believe in the right system (and with renewed confidence) he could be a valuable player.

    What the Spurs should have done was trade him. I believe that is still the plan rather than waiving him.

    I think the good Doc is sampling his free stash of vicodin.

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    Beno sucks

    I hope the Spurs waive him

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    One good preseason game by Darius and now he'll save us from Beno. Seems a little deperate to me. If the Spurs were to waive Beno, It would be more in the Spurs style to land a cheap vet rather than an untested rookie.
    A guy in decent shape with some talent and some desire to play is a definite step up, and more than anyone can reasonably expect from Beno at this point.

    What the Spurs should have done was not re-sign him, since we haven't learned anything new about him that we didn't know then. It's time to own up to the mistake. If someone won't offer the bare minimum to take him then it's time to put him on the street and consider his contract the price of a roster spot and some peace of mind.

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