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Hampton's salary was fully insured. If someone bothers to check this, it will show closer to $62 million (including his salary).
He owes them everything.
Hampton's salary was fully insured. If someone bothers to check this, it will show closer to $62 million (including his salary).
I didn't say he was the only one sucking on that team, but the fact remains that he put up all sorts of regular season numbers at Texas but was ing constantly about not playing in October. He got his wish and the chance to play in October, but became a weak .100's hitter when he got there time and time again. All $30 million a year couldn't get a clutch hit when it counted.
Since we know from experience that he disappears in the clutch and in October, would any sane GM pay another $30 million a season or more to get that? Any that do are only looking for regular season production and maybe some ticket sales since winning obviously isn't a priority.
Leadership is needed in baseball just as in every sport, but the leadership tends to be more behind the scenes than in the open. There has never been a team that won a WS with no direction or leadership.
Atlanta is LOADED with SS prospects.
They already have Yunel Escobar, who was effective at the big leagues last year (.836 OPS and only 4 errors in 53 games at short).
Brent Lillibridge may be ready by middle of 2008, and Elvis Andrus may have the highest ceiling of all with a 2009 ETA.
That may mean nothing, but I don't think you can read too much into the Renteria trade as clearing space for A-Rod either.
I'll admit you probably know much more about this than I do so humor me, why does he owe them anything?
I actually thought that Atlanta would move C. Jones to another position and play Rodriguez at 3B. The Braves have a logjam of outfileders and middle infielders who will play at MLB level. With Saltamaachia (sp?) gone, they don't have to worry about finding a spot for him anymore. You could play Chipper at one of the corner outfiled spots or 1B. (Jones has shown he doesn't care about changing positions; I don't know about Texeira.) The outfield would be Francouer, C. Jones (or Texeira), and a platoon of Diaz/Harris.
Bluntly, there are only a few teams that I follow well enough to know their salary/budget situation and farm system. Atlanta is one of them, and they just happended to clear about $30 million. You may well be right, and it is only a coincidence. However, look at how tough their lineup would become. You would basically have an offense capable of beating an AL team.
Just a thought, really. They may be going after a starting pitcher, which they need more than another bat, but I can't figure out who that would be.
Jones has expressed a preference for third, although I'm sure he'd move again if Cox really wanted him to.
Texeira will play 1B or be traded. He's not the quickest guy in the world, but he is a great defensive 1B. So, if you moved him to the OF, you'd be likely weakening your defense at TWO positions.
I don't deny that Atlanta has the money to sign ARod. But they have also shown a reluctance towards spending a large percentage of their payroll on a single player.
But we'll see if he actually holds out for $30 million. I can't think of a single team that could responsibly spend that amount of money on him. And the teams that would be willing to do irresponsibly have already seen what it did to the Rangers, and that contract was for the years that encompassed his prime. It's highly likely that ARod will be on the decline within 2-3 years. In fact, he made have already had his best seasons.
More than anything else, that makes me think that they aren't going after him. The Braves don't like to do long-term deals, either. IIRC, they let Maddux walk over years, not the money itself.
It's hard to make a generalization like this, but by and large, the Braves don't like to spend big money on anything but pitching. (Paying Glavine, Smoltz, and Maddux close to what they were worth for a decade obviously skewed this a bit.)
Actually, Andrus was a part of the Teixeira trade.
I don't think Boras sees Atlanta as a good fit right now. There are too many dollar signs in his eyes. But since they are NL, I personally wouldn't mind it in the least.
Ouch, good point.
That's OK, I went brain dead and put the wrong year for when Yanks were last in the WS earlier in the thread. I meant to say the last year they won, not the last year they got there
the baseball cube, for all its greatness, lists the most recent season at the bottom. however, for some reason they list the most recent stats (and team) within a season at the top of that row. (hence, his 2007 minor league stats appear BELOW his 2006 minor league stats, but his 2007 texas stats appear ABOVE his 2007 atlanta stats; so if you go to the very bottom of his stat line, it's 2007 atlanta.)
IT'S TOTAL ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A-Rod is the biggest most selfish clown in Sports. Yanks were going to offer him an extension worth 30 mil a year likely for 5 or 6 years on top of the 3 years and 81 mil he had left on his deal and that was so low he opted out without even meeting with them. This guy is a ing piece of and then some.
He is already rich beyond his wildest dreams. As much as I don't care for A-Rod I don't think he is doing this for money. The money is all Boras. I think he just wants to win and it's pretty obvious from the state of the Yankees right now that they are not going to win anything anytime soon. I bet they don't even make the playoffs next year.
A-Rod just wants to win? Tell him to actually hit a ing baseball in October. That would help.
I think he's just sick of New York. You get booed by your own fans, you get stalked by the paparazzi, your owner s on your coach at every opportunity... Why on earth should he want to remain with the Yankees?
He just wants to win, well then leaving the Yanks is the dumbest move he could make and then some. You know the last time the Yanks missed the playoffs? 1994 and that was because of the baseball strike, they were in 1st place that year. They spend more money than anyone in baseball. Other than the Red Sox name me another team that can afford him and will give him the same chance to win every year like the Yanks do??
Do you realize the current state the Yanks are in? Just cus they have been in the playoffs for years and years doesn't mean they are in a good state now. Their future is very uncertain. Too many question marks, particularly in their bullpen and rotation. Plus, he has never been the type to be able to take criticism very well, making NYC a bad fit.
According to Jayson Stark on ESPN, Boras is looking for a 12 year contract for ARod at $30mil a year. That is just nuts. $360 million contract? He also mentioned Detroit as a major player because Boras has a good relationship with them.
But Stark did pick the Rockies so what does he know.
Well lets see, i live in NY and am a huge Yankees fan, yeah i would say i am well versed in the Yanks and their current state.
BullPen- Mo will Re-Sign, he has loyalty to the Yanks and he will get the most money from them, no way they allow him to not retire in pinstripes.
Rotation- Pet te will come back and he's still a big game pitcher. Wang while he stunk in the playoffs has won 19 games each of the last 2 years. Jabba Chamberlain is the best pitching prospect in all of baseball who dominated out of the pen this year and he is apparently going to start next year. Yanks also have Phil Hughes, a very young talented pitcher who will start and Ian Kennedy, in fact they have the most versatile group of young arms in the majors these days with tremendous upside.
Payroll- Yanks have the highest payroll in MLB and that is not going to change anytime soon. They make more money than anyone in MLB by far. Their TV network YES, is worth something like 3 billion all by itself, they drew 4 million fans this year. They have ownership that is all about winning they will spend the money to make that happen year in and year out.
With A-Rod or without A-Rod Yanks will be in prime position to make the playoffs next year just like always and if they don't they will re-stock in the offseason and make a run at it next year. My inital comment i stand by. Other than the Red Sox, the Yanks give him his best shot to win by far.
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He will get 30 mil a year but a 12 year deal is a pipe dream for Boras and he knows it. A-Rod will be 33 next year this is not a young player anymore. Figure he is out of his prime by what 38, 39, 40 tops and that is really pushing it. So you will be paying him 30 mil a year all the way until he is 45 years old and WAY WAY past his prime. No chance at that, any team that gives him that kind of deal needs to be dismantled because they are friggin morons.
Do you realize how you sound? Mo WILL re-sign. Pet te WILL come back. Hughes and Kennedy are good, I will give you that. BUT, how will they do in what will essentially be thier rookie years against some VERY tough AL opponents? You are banking all your Yankee dreams on POTENTIAL free agent signings and (potential) breakout years from young pitchers, and not FACTS.
Other than who has been called up, the Yankees are a bit thin in the farm. Not the worst but definitely nothing to write home about. And a new manager to boot. Can your new man massage the egos in the clubhouse like Torre could?
And you say the Yanks will make the playoffs. GREAT! But if someone wants to WIN, they want to do more than make the playoffs. And if you (or anyone else) thought that the Yanks were going to do anything other than bow out in the divisional series this year, then you were kidding yourselves. Without some MAJOR restructuring, the same thing would happen IF the Yanks make the playoffs next year. Big "IF."
They will, see you in a few weeks when that happens.
No what i am doing is pointing out to you what kind of talent the team has in their system and the abilities they have as an organization to keep themselves in a winning position. Nothing is guranteed in sports but they Yanks have 2 things that give them a leg up. A talented roster and a load of money to spend.
We'll see i loved Torre and he will be hard to replace but Girardi is highly touted as a manager so i do believe at the very least he will be a good in game manager.
So you want to go to a team were you are all but a lock to not just make the playoffs but win in the playoffs. Well gee, what team would that be other than the Red Sox? You still have not answered that one. Yanks were the only team that made it back to the playoffs in the AL this year that was in it last year, did you know that? Making it is the hardest part and they were favored to win the LDS they just got lousy pitching from Wang, who is far better than what he showed.
I'm a Birds fan and loathe the MFYs. But it's tough to see them being down for more than a year or two. While huge spending doesn't always equal playoff berths, the Yankees are somewhat immune to that because they are the one team in baseball that can afford to eat their mistakes.
Anybody who makes the playoffs is a threat to win them. The 2006 Cardinals should have taught everybody that.
Still banking on 'maybes.'
You have yet to point out what kind of "talent" the Yanks have in their system. If you don't include Hughes, Kennedy or Chamberlain, who are the top Yankees prospects? What will they bring to the table next season? You are banking on buying players, like the Yankees always do. Guess what? The bullpen and pitching FAs are not that great this year!No what i am doing is pointing out to you what kind of talent the team has in their system and the abilities they have as an organization to keep themselves in a winning position. Nothing is guranteed in sports but they Yanks have 2 things that give them a leg up. A talented roster and a load of money to spend.
Again, baking on 'maybes.'We'll see i loved Torre and he will be hard to replace but Girardi is highly touted as a manager so i do believe at the very least he will be a good in game manager.
I didn't say I wanted a team who is a lock. I said A-Rod probably does. And though I honestly think no such team exists in MLB right now, the Yankees are definitely NOT on the top of the list of potential locks. Not for next year. Not for awhile.So you want to go to a team were you are all but a lock to not just make the playoffs but win in the playoffs. Well gee, what team would that be other than the Red Sox? You still have not answered that one. Yanks were the only team that made it back to the playoffs in the AL this year that was in it last year, did you know that? Making it is the hardest part and they were favored to win the LDS they just got lousy pitching from Wang, who is far better than what he showed.
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