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  1. #51
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    i dont know how you guys are going to beat the spurs when you havnt solve defensive roles...

    wtf is going to guard td down low?

    seriously if the spurs put this lineup duncan + horry + udoka + bowen + ginoboli or parker at the same time.....small ball is finished.
    I don't know about having Udoka and Horry in the same lineup. I think that against the Suns that Barry would play more so we can't double Tim. As for who's guarding him, I'd imagine that we'll double alot, but it'll probably be a mixture between Shawn and Skinner.

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    The Spurs gave up the race for the #2 seed with the last 3 games: Duncan's ejection led to the loss which led to starters sitting the final 2 garbage games. With those three victories, the Spurs have the same 61-21 record as you, hold homecourt advantage.
    The Suns almost won their last two games (against Houston and LA Clippers) even though they didn't need to. They probably would have won one if they had needed to.

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    where do the 2 losses come from?
    Bobcats... twice

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    Are you guys still crying about the suspensions. No wonder Kobe wants to go to Phoenix he'd fit right in with all the whiners.

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    Phoenix hype machine is in full overdrive mode.
    It's been that way for the past 3 years. It's gotten Nash two MVPs and Raja Bell is now noted as an "elite" defender when he's really nothing more than average. Even Kobe, with his offensive load, is a more impressive defender than Bell.

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    It's been that way for the past 3 years. It's gotten Nash two MVPs and Raja Bell is now noted as an "elite" defender when he's really nothing more than average. Even Kobe, with his offensive load, is a more impressive defender than Bell.
    Raja is a much more consistent defender. Kobe probably has the athletic ability to be a better defender and can be at times, but if you're taking the average, there's no way that Kobe is better.

    As for the Suns "hype" I really don't see it that much. The Spurs are favored by most experts to win the championship, and pretty much everybody recognizes the Mavs, Suns, and Spurs as the three best teams in the league. Of course we get media attention, but so do the other three aforementioned teams.

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    I didn't read the thread, but somebody tell me: is D'Antoni still coaching them?

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    I didn't read the thread, but somebody tell me: is D'Antoni still coaching them?
    :blowsheadoff emoticon...

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    As for who's guarding him, I'd imagine that we'll double alot, but it'll probably be a mixture between Shawn and Skinner
    I could hear duncan saying "bring it on" through fits of doubled over laughter from here.

    The Suns trading away Thmas pretty much killed whatever edge they had on teh Spurs.

    I don't see how adding a slower Grant Hill and Brian friggen Skinner

    all of a sudden puts them over against the Spurs.

    Udoka is a shooting defensive guard

    The one thing the Suns did NOT want the Spurs to add.

    They can throw Udoka and Bowen at the Suns now.

    Udoka stops Hill or Barbosa
    Bowen stops Nash or Marion.
    Parker stops Barbosa or DJ whoever.


    Come on guys...

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    Another thing about Kurt THomas

    he was a pretty damn good offensive player.

    Nice jumper, made some nice cuts to the hole to work with Nash.

    Brian Skinner!??!!?

    playa puhlease

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    I could hear duncan saying "bring it on" through fits of doubled over laughter from here.

    The Suns trading away Thmas pretty much killed whatever edge they had on teh Spurs.

    I don't see how adding a slower Grant Hill and Brian friggen Skinner

    all of a sudden puts them over against the Spurs.

    Udoka is a shooting defensive guard

    The one thing the Suns did NOT want the Spurs to add.

    They can throw Udoka and Bowen at the Suns now.

    Udoka stops Hill or Barbosa
    Bowen stops Nash or Marion.
    Parker stops Barbosa or DJ whoever.


    Come on guys...
    Hey, according to ESPN's basketball "experts," the Suns are "on a mission" and are "deeply motivated" to finally bring it home. This is "their year."

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    Hey, according to ESPN's basketball "experts," the Suns are "on a mission" and are "deeply motivated" to finally bring it home. This is "their year."

    Theres one team that stands between the Spurs winning back to back.

    The Mavericks.

    The addition of Udoka IMO, made it less scary as a Spurs fan.

    The addition of Darius Washington, if he cna keep playing well, eases it more as well, as you have a guard who can "keep" with Devin Harris or Terry a bit better.

    The Suns contending with the Spurs is laughable even more.

    Without Kurt Thomas, the Spurs Suns series goes about like game 1 went last year with the Spurs, beating the living crap out of em.

    The Suns this year are so much less of a challenge its not even funny.

  13. #63
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    I didn't read the thread, but somebody tell me: is D'Antoni still coaching them?
    The next time he coaches will be his first!

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    Another thing about Kurt THomas

    he was a pretty damn good offensive player.

    Nice jumper, made some nice cuts to the hole to work with Nash.

    Brian Skinner!??!!?

    playa puhlease
    We will not miss Kurt Thomas's offense in the least.

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    Raja is a much more consistent defender. Kobe probably has the athletic ability to be a better defender and can be at times, but if you're taking the average, there's no way that Kobe is better.

    As for the Suns "hype" I really don't see it that much. The Spurs are favored by most experts to win the championship, and pretty much everybody recognizes the Mavs, Suns, and Spurs as the three best teams in the league. Of course we get media attention, but so do the other three aforementioned teams.
    When you have 70% of "analysts" saying the Suns have EVERYTHING to get a ring this year. That is hype x100000000000.

    Media obviously wants you guys to win so much. As if you guys simply deserve a le because of the circus that broke out last year. I'd be pissed too but I just can't see how people can still pick the suns on an unproven method.

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    Theres one team that stands between the Spurs winning back to back.

    The Mavericks.

    The addition of Udoka IMO, made it less scary as a Spurs fan.

    The addition of Darius Washington, if he cna keep playing well, eases it more as well, as you have a guard who can "keep" with Devin Harris or Terry a bit better.

    The Suns contending with the Spurs is laughable even more.

    Without Kurt Thomas, the Spurs Suns series goes about like game 1 went last year with the Spurs, beating the living crap out of em.

    The Suns this year are so much less of a challenge its not even funny.
    If the Suns fail to get past the Spurs again this year, it won't be because of Udoka or Washington.

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    When you have 70% of "analysts" saying the Suns have EVERYTHING to get a ring this year. That is hype x100000000000.

    Media obviously wants you guys to win so much. As if you guys simply deserve a le because of the circus that broke out last year. I'd be pissed too but I just can't see how people can still pick the suns on an unproven method.
    Is that why a majority of the guys at ESPN picked San Antonio to win the championship? There's a difference between saying that Phoenix has the pieces to win a championship (we do) then saying that they're the favorites.

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    We will not miss Kurt Thomas's offense in the least.
    It's true you don't need him to run Indiana and Minnesota off the floor in February. However, he gave you the luxury of not having to double-team Duncan all the time, and he did what he was supposed to do on offense by consistently hitting that mid-range jumper when the Spurs stayed home on everybody else. I think Kurt Thomas was a big reason why that series was a lot closer than the 05 Conference Finals.

    D'Antoni is going to play his usual rotation in the regular season, but when you guys run into the Spurs in the playoffs, at some point he will summon a rusty Skinner from the bench to guard Duncan. Will he not be a drag on the offense like Thomas? I doubt it.

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    It's true you don't need him to run Indiana and Minnesota off the floor in February. However, he gave you the luxury of not having to double-team Duncan all the time, and he did what he was supposed to do on offense by consistently hitting that mid-range jumper when the Spurs stayed home on everybody else. I think Kurt Thomas was a big reason why that series was a lot closer than the 05 Conference Finals.

    D'Antoni is going to play his usual rotation in the regular season, but when you guys run into the Spurs in the playoffs, at some point he will summon a rusty Skinner from the bench to guard Duncan. Will he not be a drag on the offense like Thomas? I doubt it.
    Kurt Thomas's low post D will definitely be missed. But too much was made of his ability to hit the open jumper. Sure it was nice and I'm not trying to say that Skinner is somehow better than he is, but Skinner is a good athlete and thus is going to get his in Phoenix's system.

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    The Spurs are the favorites to win it all again and nobody doubts that. But the lack of respect some have for the Suns is unbelievable. Apparently, nobody remembers that the Suns were the only team to give the Spurs a tough series in the 2007 playoffs. Every naysayer claims that run and gun doesn't work but there is only one team in the NBA better than the Suns. Losing Kurt Thomas wasn't great but he couldn't guard Tim Duncan anyway. Its up to Amare, Marion and Nash to step up their games to another level.

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    The Spurs are the favorites to win it all again and nobody doubts that. But the lack of respect some have for the Suns is unbelievable. Apparently, nobody remembers that the Suns were the only team to give the Spurs a tough series in the 2007 playoffs
    .

    Who cares? They didn't win. The Mavs have actually done that.

    Every naysayer claims that run and gun doesn't work but there is only one team in the NBA better than the Suns. Losing Kurt Thomas wasn't great but he couldn't guard Tim Duncan anyway. Its up to Amare, Marion and Nash to step up their games to another level.
    Good luck with that.

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    D"Antoni should follow Pop's example and keep his starters minutes under 30 per game. I have seen Nash play too many minutes in games were the outcome is not in doubt. I can understand close games but really should the starters be playing in games were the Suns are ahead by 20 plus points with 5 minutes to go in the 4th.
    How dare you use my first name in association with the biggest es in sports, the Suns. If I could reach through this computer I'd strangle you right now.

  23. #73
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    The Suns got rid of their defensive front line and picked up an old, broken down guy who won at Duke with Christian ing Laettner.

    As far as the Spurs are concerned, it doesn't matter if the Suns are better this year or not because they match up horribly with the Spurs. They got somewhat close last season to matching up, but they threw it all away. Gotta love D'Antoni's idiocy and stubborness to win with a style that doesn't work.

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    Default Re: Nash: Suns Better, Deeper Than Last Year

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    this is a qoute from steve kerrs blog on suns.com about gaurding duncan
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    "The biggest question that I repeatedly received over the past couple of months was, 'Who is going to replace Kurt Thomas?' The answer is a tag team of Brian Skinner and Sean Marks. Brian is big, active and can run at our pace. He's an excellent defender and shot blocker. Marks will surprise some people this year – he can really shoot the ball and may get more of an opportunity to play given our roster makeup. Both will help as the season goes on, depending on matchups and situations."

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