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    In warm ups Washington was knocking all his FTs down and nothing but net with nice arc. I'll bet those FTs were an abberation, not that he's likely to get a lot of chances to prove otherwise.
    He's got Nick Anderson syndrome. He's missed some big freethrows in the college ranks and it is faily obvious now that in pressure situations his free throws will be a liability.

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    No...it's not a statistic. It's my opinion...hence the "in my opinion".


    Stupid like this is why the Pistons got their ass kicked last year.

    Whether a player hit over 50% is an opinion and not a statistic?

    Something a fan writes on a messageboard is the reason a professional sports team loses?

    You are not smart IMO.

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    He's got Nick Anderson syndrome. He's missed some big freethrows in the college ranks and it is faily obvious now that in pressure situations his free throws will be a liability.
    I think he could struggle with free throws for a while. But if the coaching staff stays supportive then he'll probably be fine. Besides, eventually TD is going to have a bad free throw shooting game and Washington will witness it. It's not the end of the world. And if Darius realizes that then he'll be looser and better at them.

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    Whether a player hit over 50% is an opinion and not a statistic?

    RIF


    Something a fan writes on a messageboard is the reason a professional sports team loses?

    Normally no...but when it gets to a certain level of stupidity, as in really really stupid...I believe it can have a negative impact. I point to yourself, and your teams fate last season...seems to be a link.


    You are not smart IMO.

    At least I can read...

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    ...but what's up with that Amish beard?

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    ...but what's up with that Amish beard?
    Yep. DW needs to grow out his hair on his scalp to at least the same length. He looks like a member of the Nation of Islam, circa 1960.

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    Beno is so AWFUL really anyone was going to be an improvement. I don't know what happened to him because he really was a pretty good prospect when he got to SA and had some good games early on and then he just went in the toilet.

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    Normally no...but when it gets to a certain level of stupidity, as in really really stupid...I believe it can have a negative impact. I point to yourself, and your teams fate last season...seems to be a link.

    95% of your assertions are senseless and unprovable drivel IMO.

    Congratulations on learning how to read.

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    95% of your assertions are senseless and unprovable drivel IMO.

    Congratulations on learning how to read.

    Read again my original quote:

    And I'm talking specifically about when he was being dared to shoot...and he hit that shot consistently throughout the playoff run. He hit it at over 50% IMO...well over 50%.

    Read it real slow...try to dislodge the from between your ears, realize that this entire discourse is because you're an idiot, who cannot read...Ponder for just a moment, what an illiterate ass you have truly made of yourself...then shut the up, give a silent thanks that you are now smarter for having argued with me, and don't attempt to argue with me again until your learn to read.


    One more time for the stupid in this thread:

    And I'm talking specifically about when he was being dared to shoot...and he hit that shot consistently throughout the playoff run. He hit it at over 50% IMO...well over 50%.

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    When you consider that Washington is a 21 years old rookie playing his first nba game, last night game was very good.
    Playing in Austin with Spurs system could help him a lot to be a better playmaker (last night he played a lot off the ball).

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    whottt,

    I read it the first time. I just read it again. Those times he was as you put it "dared to shoot" can be counted. You can count the times he actually made them. You can divide the times he made them with the times he was dared to shoot. I realize it's not easy to get that information without watching the entire playoffs again and do enting those "dared shots." But, that doesn't make that statistics an opinion. It just doesn't.

    If you want to say something like "I would bet he shot over 50% of those shots he was dared to shoot" or "I'm pretty sure he made over 50% of the shots he was dared to shoot," it would be one thing. You didn't. You said a quantifiable statistic was your opinion.

    Call names all you want. It's not an opinion. It's a statistic. You don't have to go on full blast PMS tirade everytime someone disagrees with you or points out something that you said was wrong. Relax. Take an advil. Have a small glass of cognac. Smoke a cigar. It's not that deep.

    But, again, it's not an opinion.

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    Vaughn's shooting percentage when he's dared to shoot is a matter of opinion rather than stats?

    Classic whotttt

    I hate to say it because he gives great effort but Jacque Vaughn is easily the most overrated Spur in the forum at the moment. He's decent but the Spurs more won in despite of him instead of because of him. Harsh, I know, but I believe that to be true.

    Vaughn had some massive struggles in the playoffs. His defense was poor until the Finals when he had good matchups. Allen Iverson, Steve Nash, Leandro Barbosa and Deron Williams obliterated him in the first three rounds of the playoffs. And the bad part is defense is supposedly Vaughn's strong point.

    He had his best shooting season in years and his offense was still barely good enough. His jumper was falling just enough to not be a complete liability. Around the basket, Vaughn finished a horrible percentage of his shots both in the regular season and in the playoffs.

    I like having Vaughn on the team but like I've said since the day he signed, the guy is a fantastic third string point guard. You can use him as a backup point guard but that's stretching it. His offense is below average and his defense is overrated ... not a good combination.

    This is why Darius Washington's development this year is so important. I'm confident that Pop realizes Vaughn is best suited as a third point guard. With that in mind, I trust that Pop will give Washington every opportunity to win the backup point guard job. Everyone is already booking his bus ride to Austin but if he performs well, Washington could be the team's new backup point guard.

    Vaughn is good as a security blanket but he's only borderline capable as a backup point guard.

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    Hopefully Pop holds Vaughn out and lets Washngton see if he can establish himself.

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    Vaughn's shooting percentage when he's dared to shoot is a matter of opinion rather than stats?

    Classic whotttt



    definition opinion:


    An opinion is a person's ideas and thoughts towards something. It is an assessment, judgment or evaluation of something.


    An opinion is not a fact, because opinions are either not falsifiable, or the opinion has not been proven or verified. If it later becomes proven or verified, it is no longer an opinion, but a fact.




    Guess what? I don't know what Jacque Vaughns ing FG% was when being specificially dared to shoot it in the last post season...


    Therefore, when I say he hit at 50%...


    It is in fact, my ing opinion.


    I don't care if you know exactly what his FG% was in that situation, I didn't...so therefore when I say what I think it was, it was, an opinion, and that cannot be changed.



    Sorry bro...stand with the stupid, die with the stupid. And two stupids, never make a right.

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    I have no clue what I'm talking about, I just spout out random numbers. I got owned so now I'm lashing out.
    Fair enough.

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    I'm lashing out because IMO two morons are telling my opinion is a stat.


    And since my opinion now counts as a stat...that there are two of them is a fact.

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    Just admit it...you bandwagoned Jamstone's stupidity before reading the entire argument...own up.



    And BTW...while you're at it...


    Feel free to provide the link to Vaughn's FG% on that J when he was being dared to shoot in the post season...

    Because I can assure you, what I offered up...was my opinion, and not a stat.

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    Unbelievable.

    Just because you don't know what that stat is, it doesn't make it an opinion. It makes it a stat that you don't know. If you are 40 years old, then you are 40 years old. I can't say, whottt, you are 21 years old in my opinion. Just because I don't know how old you are, my saying you are 21 is not an opinion. It is an inaccurate assertion. A wrong statement of fact. A bad guess. It's not an opinion.

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    Unbelievable.

    Just because you don't know what that stat is, it doesn't make it an opinion.
    Yes it does...yes it ing does.


    If I don't know what the stat is...the number I offer is my opinion...

    It most certainly is...it is my opinion.


    Do you need me to post the definition of opinion again?




    It makes it a stat that you don't know. If you are 40 years old, then you are 40 years old. I can't say, whottt, you are 21 years old in my opinion.
    Yes you can....


    Just because I don't know how old you are, my saying you are 21 is not an opinion.
    Yes it is...you idiot.


    It is an inaccurate assertion.
    it's an opinion.


    A wrong statement of fact. A bad guess. It's not an opinion.

    Godamn.





    #1. We don't know my guess was wrong. So that is a bad comparison...it might in fact be right...

    However, it was still an opinion.



    #2. It still an opinion.


    #3. It's still an opinion.

    #4. If is in fact, an opinion.

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    For Jamstone:


    [b]An opinion is a person's ideas and thoughts towards something. It is an assessment, judgment or evaluation of something.[b]
    Do you understand what these words mean you idiot? Or do I need to post the definitions for those too?


    An opinion is not a fact, because opinions are either not falsifiable, or the opinion has not been proven or verified.

    If it later becomes proven or verified, it is no longer an opinion, but a fact.


    Do you need more definitions?


    Should I start with the word "a"?

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    The percentage a player shoots is a statistic. A statistic is not an opinion. It is a fact. If your "guess" was correct, it makes it a good guess or accurate assertion, not an opinion.


    Here's the definition that matters.

    sta·tis·tic /stəˈtɪstɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[stuh-tis-tik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun Statistics.
    a numerical fact or datum, esp. one computed from a sample.

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    Idiot...

    If I meant for what I said to be taken as fact...I would not have said IMO.

    I said IMO, because it was not a fact, it was in fact, my opinion.


    And yes...because I was not certain , it was my opinion, especially since I qualified it as being my opinion...which was why I put IMO.



    And you ass hat...if you don't don't know how old I am and you say 21..it is in fact, your opinion of my age...



    No matter how old I actually am.


    Guess what...a guess is an opinion. An estimation is an opinion...

    A bad guess, is still an opinion.




    Do you want me to post the definition of opinion yet again? Or are you prepared to take this up with the dictionary people?

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    Here's one more definition...from Merriam Webster online:

    1 a: a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter


    2 a: belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge

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    Just STFU and stop making me suffer because you don't know what a ing opinion is...take it on your kindergarten teacher or your parents for birthing a stupid child ...not me.

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