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  1. #51
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    You are re ed for thinking he is a top coach. I am not the only one who suspects some of the things Avery is doing. He is an up and coming young coach who inherited a talented team. Look at what has happened the last two years. We have just set the WORST collapse record in the history of the NBA. We thought the collapse the previous year was bad. Last year was much worse. Just think, whenever people talk about top seeds falling to lower seeds, there will never be one to top last year. EVER!!!!!! That is unforgiveable.
    Why don't you name all these great coaches that are absolutely hands down better than Avery, aside from Pop? Quit ing like a little stick and just answer the questions and give some ing reasoning.

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    Why don't you name all these great coaches that are absolutely hands down better than Avery, aside from Pop? Quit ing like a little stick and just answer the questions and give some ing reasoning.

    Larry Brown for one head! Or course Phil, Sloan, Riley. We have the talent is all I am saying. We need adjustments in critical times. We are not doing that. There is no doubt I am rooting for them. I just don't have much faith in Avery. So all you Avery homers can suck it. Facts are he has a great team that has squandered two opportunites back to back. How much time are we going to give him. This year has to be his last shot.

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    Facts are he has a great team that has squandered two opportunites back to back.
    We couldn't beat the Warriors last year, how were we going to beat San Antonio?

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    We couldn't beat the Warriors last year, how were we going to beat San Antonio?

    That is the killer and most frustrating part. We do have the talent to beat the Spurs. We did it the year before. We no longer fear them. We had a mental block against them for years and have overcome that. I know there a lot of Spurs fans that did not want to play us. Our only obstacle is for Avery to figure out how to stop these run-and-gun teams. GS and Phoenix are the two teams that can get in the way.

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    Larry Brown for one head! Or course Phil, Sloan, Riley. We have the talent is all I am saying. We need adjustments in critical times. We are not doing that. There is no doubt I am rooting for them. I just don't have much faith in Avery. So all you Avery homers can suck it. Facts are he has a great team that has squandered two opportunites back to back. How much time are we going to give him. This year has to be his last shot.
    Larry Brown isn't coaching, lick. He's retired. That has already been brought out in this thread, but you obviously are too ing stupid to remember, arent you?

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    Whatever. Enough with insults. You asked for coaches that were better. I gave you one. If Mavs fail again I think Cuban should call him up.

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    Whatever. Enough with insults. You asked for coaches that were better. I gave you one. If Mavs fail again I think Cuban should call him up.
    You can dish em, but cant take em, eh? lol.

    I did ask for better coaches. Not for coaches in retirement.

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    Red Auerbach.

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    Gene Hackman

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    You can dish em, but cant take em, eh? lol.

    I did ask for better coaches. Not for coaches in retirement.
    Larry Brown has retired before. Just an option just in case. You guys can't tell me you are willing to give Avery 5+ years to figure it out. Our window is now. I still remember how long it took for the Mavs to complete. (with Tarpley, Aguire and etc). Then look how long it was till we competed again. I don't want to go back to those days. Time is ticking..........

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    That is the killer and most frustrating part. We do have the talent to beat the Spurs. We did it the year before. We no longer fear them. We had a mental block against them for years and have overcome that. I know there a lot of Spurs fans that did not want to play us.
    We would not have beaten San Antonio last year because Diop can't consistently play 30+ mpg and we would need Dampier to pick up some of the slack. Not to mention that we peaked around the All-Star break, while San Antonio didn't go all out until the right time. As for talent, matchups, and whatever, it's really a 50/50 proposition.

    Our only obstacle is for Avery to figure out how to stop these run-and-gun teams. GS and Phoenix are the two teams that can get in the way
    I think it's unrealistic to expect us to blowout teams like the Warriors right now. We probably lose this game last year. Brandon Bass, while he still has some holes to his game and shows his inexperience at times, is exactly the kind of low-post presence we were missing last year. Our guys pressed a little hard and played tentative at times, but they hung in there and showed tenacity, which is also a first against this team.
    Last edited by Findog; 11-09-2007 at 04:13 PM.

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    I think the Spurs would have been a seven game series and it really doesn't matter how long Diop playes, Duncan will still get his 50-30 against (You know what I mean). We have the personal to get the Spurs out of their comfert zone, just like the GS does with us.

    As for the game, we didn't run with the Warriors. I saw that posted several time, and it was not the case, the Mavs ran maybe 5-6 times the whole game (two were harris ofensive fouls). More the vast majority of the game the Mavs were running half court sets and using the shot clock.

    You can look at the score and think that we ran with them, but it wasn't the case, the score was high because the shooting %. I do think that Bass will continue to improve and be a valued part of the team later in the year against these smalled teams.

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    Larry Brown isn't so far removed from the game that it's ridiculous to suggest he's a better coach than Avery even now. Throw enough money at him and he'd come back.

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    They gave up 120 points and lost. THAT is not acceptable.



    Tim Duncan. Dirk is what he is, he is a shooting guard in a four's body, he plays from the high post out. We don't get points consistently from our centers to punish that strategy. Until we can get points consistently down low, or we can swing a trade for a low-post back to the basket scorer, I think the best we can do is a makeshift approach with Bass and Juwan Howard, as well as Howard, Dirk and Harris driving to the basket to try and bust that zone and draw fouls. I saw a lot more of that last night than in the playoffs.

    Golden State and Nellie have provided a blueprint for beating us, not every team is going to have the personnel to follow it, but we're going to be seeing this more and more. This isn't something that we're suited for and we've made moves and definitely made progress towards countering it. It's just going to take time. Also, you don't win or lose anything in November, Avery is going to try and mimic Pop's approach and hold minutes down and have this team peaking in April.
    A blueprint? Unless the Warriors plan on lending out Baron Davis to other teams night after night, then other teams can't duplicate the success the Warriors have on the Mavs. Make no mistake, it is Davis that makes the Warriors who they are, without him, they go to , which is why with the type of game Davis had last night the Mavs should be happy they won.

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    I LOVED what I saw last night from these guys! They showed some serious championship toughness and poise. Even Dirk hit some big shots despite looking confused out there. This team is so heading into the right direction to be EVEN BETTER pre 2006 NBA Finals! The better thing is they have room for improvment and realize these demons arent going away unless they win the championship! GOD I LOVE THESE GUYS! LETS GO MAVS! LETS GO MAVS! LETS GO MAVS!

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    Some of you Mav fans are pretty alright.

    It's nice to see the respect you guys have for TD.


    You guys deserve your own forum on here.

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