.04 < Spurs quitting in that series
foul < Pop going smallball
The team had opportunities before and after those plays to win. They didn't do it. Smallball ranks right up there for me with The Drive and The Catch for worst fan experiences.
I was at that game 7 against dallas. I was elated when the spurs took that lead and all they had to do was keep dallas from scoring three points...i wanted to shoot myself when i watched that play unfold...
Worst moment in spurs fandom for me...period...
I hate people always talk about Manu's 06 foul.
You could say that it might be not a smart foul now because we knew the outcome.
During a game, anything could happen. If manu's foul was sucessful, it might be a great foul because Dirk might miss one freethrow and Mavs might shoot a three points or something like that.
This is who Manu is. Never be afraid of failure!
This is absurd...the mavs were down by three points...they cuold have left the entire inside opena nd just crowded the three point line...let them score their two points and then hold the ball...game over...there was no what if situations...just dont let them shoot a three, and dont foul on any other shot...
end of story...
The way that Mavs team was clicking it's hard to say if the Spurs would have won even if Manu hadnt fouled. I remember in the first quarter of that game it seemed like the Mavs simply could not miss. It was sickening. they shot over 70% i think.
They just had the Spurs number. Pop going small didn't help matters either.
as a consolation, I fall back on the fact that the Spurs went down swinging. They didn't concede, came back from 20 down to take a 3-point lead with 30 sec. left, and the Mavs had to play out of there minds to win. I foresee a playoff rematch in the near future.
I'm not a Spurs fan either (obviously), but I don't see how this is even a close question. As many have mentioned, Manu's foul did not occur at the very end of a game when the Spurs had it wrapped up for sure. Even without that foul the Mavs still could have easily won.
I also completely disagree with the "beating yourselves" argument. The Mavs beat the Spurs in OT, which they pretty much dominated. The Mavs beat the Spurs, fair and square.
.4 was after most of you probably were already celebrating a victory. How does that not hurt worse?
check the poll results buddy it actually did hurt more... (so far so good)
The foul, becasue it was called on one end and not on the other.
The "media" all said that the refs made the right call when Dirt got fouled, and said the refs made the right no-call when Tim got fouled because "...the game shouldnt be decided on fouls at the end."
Even though it was.
I've never seen a foul called at the end of a game. I didn't expect the refs to call a foul then either.
Manu made a huge error, but we had a chance in OT and didn't produce. End of story.
That is why I chose Fischer's shot. It was a lucky, one in a million shot that we had no control over.
This is like asking would you rather get kicked in the junk repeatedly until death or would you rather be burned alive.
However, I do think that if .4 would have happened with the Manu of today guarding Fisher, Manu would have probably blocked the shot. Back then, Manu gave him a pretty clean look for knowing he had to shoot the ball right when he caught it . . .
so... what you're trying to say here was that Manu was guilty on both?This is like asking would you rather get kicked in the junk repeatedly until death or would you rather be burned alive.
However, I do think that if .4 would have happened with the Manu of today guarding Fisher, Manu would have probably blocked the shot. Back then, Manu gave him a pretty clean look for knowing he had to shoot the ball right when he caught it . . .
.4
After Tim's huge shot, Fisher makin that bull sucked ass.
The foul didn't hurt as bad because I was already pissed the entire series after seeing how bull the refs were the entire series. My hopes were already ed earlier in that series before they came back.
I don't afree with that...I don't think Manu would have even tried to block the shot, he would have done exactly what he did in 04. He played Fisher perfectly, putting both of his hands up in his face. Trying to block the shot (with 0.4 rediculous bull seconds that really expired before he shot it but the NBA sucks) can put the defender in a situation to get a foul called, whether it's a bull call or not. Then Fisher has 2 foul shots.This is like asking would you rather get kicked in the junk repeatedly until death or would you rather be burned alive.
However, I do think that if .4 would have happened with the Manu of today guarding Fisher, Manu would have probably blocked the shot. Back then, Manu gave him a pretty clean look for knowing he had to shoot the ball right when he caught it . . .
its funny that the spurs have 2 horrible plays that have ed up an entire season and almost certainly two more les... not all teams can be so lucky, but it is just so frustrating to look back on both of those and try to decide which was worse.
For me it was .4, I was at a restaurant with my family (in los angeles) andwe were getting our butts kicked all game and we finally came back and Duncan hit one of the greatest shots of his career in my opinion I was shocked. Look that play up on YouTube again... over shaq? it was amazing!
My mom was drunk as talking to all the laker fans like cheering for those 5 minutes during all those timeouts that were called and I was like... there is no way in we don't win this game.
we all know what happened after that, leaving that restaurant sucked..
"One lucky shot deserves another."
I can't still believe how the NBA allowed this to happen. The biggest robbery ever in NBA history. It would have been the most clutch Duncan's shot ever.
i would like to be able to close the poll of this thread as i think it's obvious that 0.4 owns 06 foul... Kori? help anyone?
Tim's shot was equal bull .
Are you serious? You are complaining that the NBA allowed Fisher to hit that shot?
No fouls at end of games? It's happened to us before except it was a bull foul. Check out the Washington-Spurs playoff game for the WCF.
If Manu doesn't foul Dirk, we're ahead by one. We put the ball in Manu's hands and he gets fouled. Game over. No overtime.
The foul. We no doubt would have gone on to win the le in 06, and we had crawled back from the dead in that series. If we would have just let him go to the hole and dunk ti we could have gotten out of there. It could have been avoided.
The .04 was just one of those shots. Sometimes, you just have to sit back and go, man we did everything right but we got beat by "one of those shots." The type of shot that is just going to go in regardless. A follow-on to that, is that I don't believe we would have beaten Detroit that year, so it may have been a blessing.
When the Mavs inbounded the ball, there was 32.2 seconds left. Plenty of time for at least another 2 possessions and fouls for the Mavericks. The game would not have been over by any means.
.4 - without a doubt.
.04 cost the spurs a 3peat
06 cost the spurs a repeat
both cost the spurs a chance to make history
Big ski's foul bc even in 04 the Spurs could have prevailed in game 6.
At the time it occurred--0.4--too much of an emotional roller coaster of a game
In retrospect: the foul--without it, all the naysayers about the Spurs being a dynasty wouldn't have the no-repeat ammo
That foul almost killed me. I knew the game was lost after that and it was the right call, and game 7 was fairly called (we got totally reamed in other games).
Honestly the .4 I was just glad kobe didn't hit it. We lost the series 4-2 anyway and it Manu and TP probably are on our team because of it (they would have been too expensive to resign had we won the championship).
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