Bush strategist looks back in sadness

[Yonivore]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20030322.html

President Discusses Beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom
President's Radio Address

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. American and coalition forces have begun a concerted campaign against the regime of Saddam Hussein. In this war, our coalition is broad, more than 40 countries from across the globe. Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve and the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people.

The future of peace and the hopes of the Iraqi people now depend on our fighting forces in the Middle East. They are conducting themselves in the highest traditions of the American military. They are doing their job with skill and bravery, and with the finest of allies beside them. At every stage of this conflict the world will see both the power of our military, and the honorable and decent spirit of the men and women who serve.

In this conflict, American and coalition forces face enemies who have no regard for the conventions of war or rules of morality. Iraqi officials have placed troops and equipment in civilian areas, attempting to use innocent men, women and children as shields for the dictator's army. I want Americans and all the world to know that coalition forces will make every effort to spare innocent civilians from harm.

A campaign on harsh terrain in a vast country could be longer and more difficult than some have predicted. And helping Iraqis achieve a united, stable, and free country will require our sustained commitment. Yet, whatever is required of us, we will carry out all the duties we have accepted.

Across America this weekend, the families of our military are praying that our men and women will return safely and soon. Millions of Americans are praying with them for the safety of their loved ones and for the protection of all the innocent. Our entire nation appreciates the sacrifices made by military families, and many citizens who live near military families are showing their support in practical ways, such as by helping with child care, or home repairs. All families with loved ones serving in this war can know this: Our forces will be coming home as soon as their work is done.

Our nation entered this conflict reluctantly, yet with a clear and firm purpose. The people of the United States and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder. Now that conflict has come, the only way to limit its duration is to apply decisive force. This will not be a campaign of half-measures. It is a fight for the security of our nation and the peace of the world, and we will accept no outcome but victory.

Thank you for listening.

[Yonivore]

Just the stuff I could find, leading up to the invasion, that talked about things other than WMDs.

[clambake]

yeah, throw in the kitchen sink, or anything else that can mask the stink. i think we also accused him of stealing martha stewart recipes.

[George Gervin's Afro]

well saddam did try to kill bush's daddy.

[xrayzebra]

Gee, I read all the stuff Bush has done. Don't you just wished
Clinton was back in office and none of this stuff would have happened. Just a "little" sex in the White House. Well maybe a
"whole lot of sex". But hey it doesn't matter. We know old Bill
could control himself, I mean who could have someone giving
them a little head, while talking on the telephone. Oppps,
I forgot oral is not sex.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Gee, I read all the stuff Bush has done. Don't you just wished
Clinton was back in office and none of this stuff would have happened. Just a "little" sex in the White House. Well maybe a
"whole lot of sex". But hey it doesn't matter. We know old Bill
could control himself, I mean who could have someone giving
them a little head, while talking on the telephone. Oppps,
I forgot oral is not sex.

gee a sexual buffet or an unecessary war.. hmm tough one..

[xrayzebra]

gee a sexual buffet or an unecessary war.. hmm tough one..

Yeah, and just think, Bush blew up the WTC, not those
silly bas s that blew up our Embassies, shot down our
black hawks, blew up a warship. Ah, you know. They
were just funnin, Clinton had it all under control. Right?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Yeah, and just think, Bush blew up the WTC, not those
silly bas s that blew up our Embassies, shot down our
black hawks, blew up a warship. Ah, you know. They
were just funnin, Clinton had it all under control. Right?

you asked me what i preferred and i told you.

[Yonivore]

well saddam did try to kill bush's daddy.

Tried to assassinate a president of the United States. Yet another reason. Thanks.

[Yonivore]

gee a sexual buffet or an unecessary war.. hmm tough one..

If the war were unnecessary and the case against President Clinton were about sex, you'd have yet another point on top of the head of yours.

[George Gervin's Afro]

If the war were unnecessary and the case against President Clinton were about sex, you'd have yet another point on top of the head of yours.

that;s right 25% of the dead enders of this country still believe that Iraq had is related with the war on terror.. you don't get it do you? The American public doesn't buy that iraq is a necessary war in fighting terrorism...and rightfully so..

[Holt's Cat]

Iraq was invaded to deal with the threat posed by 20 Muslim fanatics with box cutters.

[xrayzebra]

that;s right 25% of the dead enders of this country still believe that Iraq had is related with the war on terror.. you don't get it do you? The American public doesn't buy that iraq is a necessary war in fighting terrorism...and rightfully so..

You are the American Public? I don't think so.

[Yonivore]

Iraq was invaded to deal with the threat posed by 20 Muslim fanatics with box cutters.

No, but keeping them from trading in the box cutters for something a bit more lethal was part of the rationale.

Thanks for playing, pick up your parting gift on the way out.

[George Gervin's Afro]

No, but keeping them from trading in the box cutters for something a bit more lethal was part of the rationale.

Thanks for playing, pick up your parting gift on the way out.

Right so we attacked the country without anything more lethal..brilliant!

[ChumpDumper]

Tried to assassinate a president of the United States. Yet another reason. Thanks.

Clinton lobbed a cruise missile into their intel service headquarters in response. Result -- no more actions against the US.

Clinton lobbed more cruise missiles and bombs into Iraq during Desert Fox. Result -- complete stoppage of WMD programs and an intense uprising that almost toppled Saddam's regime unintentionally.

Iraq was no threat to the US. At best they were going to get into another protracted war with Iran. Wouldn't that be terrible?

[George Gervin's Afro]

You are the American Public? I don't think so.

ray you can deny it all you want but there is a reason why public support for Iraq is relegated to the war s..

[ChumpDumper]

No, but keeping them from trading in the box cutters for something a bit more lethal was part of the rationale.

Except they would never get anything from Saddam, the kind of person they hate more than Americans. Your rationale is a lie.

[Yonivore]

ray you can deny it all you want but there is a reason why public support for Iraq is relegated to the war s..

Yes, Democrats, with a complicit media, have waged a successful campaign of disinformation about the war culminating with the Harry Reid lie, last year, that the war was irretreivably lost.

Keep talking George because as the war is becoming more and more apparently won, the opinion will shift and you, sir, will find yourself in the minority on Iraq, once again.

Americans are fickle. That's all. They're fair weather fans. Particularly when answering anonymous polls with leading questions. Convince them we're doing poorly in something and they'll oppose it for fear of being on the wrong side. Succeed, and they were right there with you all along.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Yes, Democrats, with a complicit media, have waged a successful campaign of disinformation about the war culminating with the Harry Reid lie, last year, that the war was irretreivably lost.

Keep talking George because as the war is becoming more and more apparently won, the opinion will shift and you, sir, will find yourself in the minority on Iraq, once again.

Americans are fickle. That's all. They're fair weather fans. Particularly when answering anonymous polls with leading questions. Convince them we're doing poorly in something and they'll oppose it for fear of being on the wrong side. Succeed, and they were right there with you all along.

The American people want to get out of iraq. All the american public has gotten is 'we're the turning the corner' crap. Bush still can't articulate what victory is so whenever we get there the American people won't reflect and say oh well this war was worth it afterall and now since we are winning I support it.. do you think they are stupid?

[Yonivore]

The American people want to get out of iraq.

No ? I want to get out of Iraq too. If that poll question doesn't get a 100% response, there are some pretty ignorant people in this country.

All the american public has gotten is 'we're the turning the corner' crap. Bush still can't articulate what victory is so whenever we get there the American people won't reflect and say oh well this war was worth it afterall and now since we are winning I support it.. do you think they are stupid?

I think you're stupid. I also think American sentiment is getting ready to make a seismic shift back in favor of a winning war in Iraq. And, that's my opinion.

[xrayzebra]

The American people want to get out of iraq. All the american public has gotten is 'we're the turning the corner' crap. Bush still can't articulate what victory is so whenever we get there the American people won't reflect and say oh well this war was worth it afterall and now since we are winning I support it.. do you think they are stupid?

Do you ever read anything but this forum. We have
turned the corner in Iraq. People are returning from other
countries. There is a whole long way to go. But there was
before we got there. But now they have a chance to
be real people. And determine what they want. And
rest assured, we are not a conquering army like some
would want you to believe.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Do you ever read anything but this forum. We have
turned the corner in Iraq. People are returning from other
countries. There is a whole long way to go. But there was
before we got there. But now they have a chance to
be real people. And determine what they want. And
rest assured, we are not a conquering army like some
would want you to believe.

None of that changes the fact that most Americans don't connect Iraq with the war on terror. I am no military expert but it would make sense that if we had more boots on the ground we could hold more ground. that would concieveably make things safer. However the solution is a political one so please forgive me for not delcaring victory just yet. let's assume this all works out and we have victory parades across the USA.. still doesn't change the fact that the majority of Americans don't connect Iraq with the war on terror..

[Nbadan]

Keep talking George because as the war is becoming more and more apparently won, the opinion will shift and you, sir, will find yourself in the minority on Iraq, once again.

Let's see how sympathetic the people are when they are paying $3-$4 for a gallon of gas because the hidden costs of the war have devalued the dollar even more...

[boutons_]

European politicians have had the balls and prudence to tax gasoline into the $7 range many years ago.

As one of many results, the Euro Ford Focus gets 55 mph highway, while the US Ford Focus gets 35 mph highway, with US car mfrs saying it's impossible even to meet an aggressive CAFE (which wasn't passed anyway) before 2020.

There is a conspiracy between oilcos, Detroit, and their D.C. s, a drug-dealing triumvirate, to keep America addicted to oil.