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    You got to love fans of choking, whining, heartless,gutless,mentally impaired,fundamentally challenged teams come in and critique other players and then don't even list players on their own team as worth a damn .
    Typical Dallas

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    Parker can basically do whatever he wants inside to create his shot. he is able to score inside BETTER than can other PGs. Therefore he is BETTER able to open up his outside game. And he is potentially BETTER at outside shooting than those other pgs.

    What can Rajon Rondo do inside?? What about outside?

    If his 'inside' game is 'on,' like, on 'all cylinders' on, he's as good as Parker? Ok -- that's your opinion, I guess.

    You (Stretch) think Rajon Rondo's best game is as good as TPs.

    Here's my opinion:
    Neither Rajon Rondo nor arguably any other G in the league can match TP inside. Other pgs can shoot from outside the lane as well or even better but TP is already in the top tier shooters at PG.
    Dude, it was merely a joke. In no way was I comparing the two. Personally I think that the 5 PG's I mentioned are better POINT GUARDS. I never said they are better basketball players (although I think there is no question that Chris Paul is a better basketball player)

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    Why bother arguing with you? You twist the words around and you make it the way you want to see it. All I said was that TP is the best pg for the Spurs, and you agreeed correct? No other pg will fit like TP does. He is probably the fastest of all the pg's, he has one of the best if not the best fg percentage. He has a teardrop that is unblockable most of the time. He can get into the lane when ever he wants. He is perfect for them. We don't need him to be a passer with great court vision. We need his scoring, his breaking down of defenses. To top it off he won the finals MVP last year. How much more proof do you need to know he is he best?
    I never agreed that TP is the best PG for the Spurs. I said he is the best PG ON the Spurs.

    His abilities are great. But there is no absolute PROOF that no other PG in the NBA could do as good or better of a job as a PG in the Spurs system.

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    Parker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Paul

    good lord its not even close
    No one cares what you think, chubbs.

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    You got to love fans of choking, whining, heartless,gutless,mentally impaired,fundamentally challenged teams come in and critique other players and then don't even list players on their own team as worth a damn .
    Typical Dallas
    You got to love oversensitive, whiny, y bag fans that can never take a joke.

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    kidd? really? naa
    Well, Kidd isn't a great shooter either, but he does have a better 3-pt shot, and can actually hit jumpers when people are in his face. Everytime I see Parker, he only hits his jumpers when WIDE OPEN.

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    Parker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Paul

    good lord its not even close
    that's pure homerism, but I'm ok with it. I'm a homer too.

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    YOU WIN! YOU'RE A JOKE!!!!
    wow you are good.

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    How is praising Tony for an almost triple double a bad thing??

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    YOU WIN! YOU'RE A JOKE!!!!
    wow you are good.
    Are you re ed? I swear you must be judging by the utter incompetence in your posts.

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    nobody can hang with daniel gibson

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    although, to be fair, there are several Parker homer in this thread that are starting to look just as bad as all the Manu homers in this board. Parker is great, but he's not the best player in the game. He's not even the best PG.

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    Now that you have lost all credibility and it is obvious that your limited capacity to reason has been breached. Try a re ed blast.
    WoW you are outstanding!
    You have to get up for school tomorrow your mom's calling you to go to bed.

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    Who said this? "Mario Lopez is teh hott."



    P.S. "Who said this quote?" is redundant.

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    although, to be fair, there are several Parker homer in this thread that are starting to look just as bad as all the Manu homers in this board. Parker is great, but he's not the best player in the game. He's not even the best PG.
    Maybe not, but who would you replace him with?

    For my money, I'd take him over anybody in the game. Is that homerism?

    Parker is underrated by a lot of people on this board. He's legitimately in the argument as to the best player at his position.

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    Now that you have lost all credibility and it is obvious that your limited capacity to reason has been breached. Try a re ed blast.
    WoW you are outstanding!
    You have to get up for school tomorrow your mom's calling you to go to bed.
    lol, awesome comeback.

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    Dude, it was merely a joke. In no way was I comparing the two. Personally I think that the 5 PG's I mentioned are better POINT GUARDS. I never said they are better basketball players (although I think there is no question that Chris Paul is a better basketball player)
    Chris Paul can't stay in front of his man.

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    Personally, I think that Chris Paul is the best all-around PG in the league, and that Baron Davis is the most gifted and talented PG in the league. I think when playing at their best, they are the two most unstoppable PGs. Especially Baron Davis. His problem is he takes too many dumb shots, but when he is playing smart, he is among the 5 most unguardable players in the league, IMO.
    Chris Paul outside shot and defense are not all that dependable, but he IS a good young PG of the league -i still take Tony & Deron before him though, if i want my PG to be a scoring engine too, but Paul is definitely more old school in term of playmaking capability.

    Talkin about unstoppable PG, well, Tony IS unstoppable too when he is playing at his best. No, his court vision is just average and his 3 pt shooting will never reach a pure shooter status, but with his speed & finishing capability in the paint, coupled with his ever improving midrange jumpshot, he IS a tough cookie to guard @PG spot.

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    For me it's hard to concieve that any one player at all times is "the best in the league".

    I think that is purely an opinion at any given moment.

    The bottom line is that basketball is a team sport, so it really matters not which player is "the best". As long as the team functions as such, and reaches the pinnacle, which is winning the NBA Finals, that is what counts. But even then, we try to separate one with the "Finals MVP" award.

    It seems humans just love to put a tag on everything.

    Who gives a if Tony is "the best" or even in the so-called "top 5"?

    As long as he leads the Spurs as he has been and continues to work hard and improve his game every year, he is our PG on our CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM. And that is all that matters.

    I can only guess that some people have way too much time on their hands to sit around and argue about who is or isn't the "best", when there is no scientific way to prove or disprove whatever side of the argument you are on.

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    Maybe not, but who would you replace him with?

    For my money, I'd take him over anybody in the game. Is that homerism?

    Parker is underrated by a lot of people on this board. He's legitimately in the argument as to the best player at his position.
    There's quite a difference in saying Parker is the best point guard in his price range, or he is the best point guard for our Spurs, than saying Parker is the best player in the NBA. That is being a homer... in fact, no, that's not being a homer, that's being a dumbass.

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    Chris Paul
    Deron Williams
    Steve Nash
    Jason Kidd
    Chauncey Billups

    I don't see Parker's name in there. Guess he's not top 5.
    Deron and Chauncey? Thats a joke right?

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    Deron and Chauncey? Thats a joke right?
    I think they are better POINT GUARDS than Parker. Better vision, better passers, better shooters. And better defenders. And bigger. And stronger. About the only thing Tony has on them is his speed, and finishing ability. Oh, and playing with Tim Duncan... I forgot that one.

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    There's quite a difference in saying Parker is the best point guard in his price range, or he is the best point guard for our Spurs, than saying Parker is the best player in the NBA. That is being a homer... in fact, no, that's not being a homer, that's being a dumbass.
    If you look again, I imply that I wouldn't replace him with any other PG in the league. I never said he is the best player in the NBA.

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    I think they are better POINT GUARDS than Parker. Better vision, better passers, better shooters. And better defenders. And bigger. And stronger. About the only thing Tony has on them is his speed, and finishing ability. Oh, and playing with Tim Duncan... I forgot that one.
    You forget one IMPORTANT thing, that you're not really comparing apples to apples here. Those PGs are in a different team structure & role.

    You can argue that CP3 has better court vision & passing ability than Tony, but Chauncey & Deron are IMO in the same class with Tony regarding those attributes -AVERAGE. They seems having higher APG simply because of those factors mentioned above.

    About shooting touch, both of them are only better & more consistent from the 3pt land, but not any better from 22' in. Gotta admit, that Chauncey is a proven clutch player, so while he can be streaky, he seems to hit the shots in the important games or moments, so the reputation goes beyond the deed.

    Chauncey is better defender against bigger PG or smallish SG, but he will get killed defensively by quick, agile PG of the league. Deron, hmm, i can see him turning into a better defender than Tony if he really puts his mind into it, but at this moment he's still not all that consistent (but he's definitely more rounded in this department, i'll give u that).

    Strength ? Never been Tony's advantage, and won't ever be. But then not many guys are blessed with his speed, and even more rare that has ball handling skill & finishing ability in the paint like him, so it's a moot point ( peeps will always have their strengths & weaknesses, it's just the matter of maximizing your S and working with your W -example, keep going fearlessly into the paint and work hard to improve your jumper).

    Bottomline, outside Nash & Kidd, there is no real conviction regarding the 3rd best PG of the league. Perhaps in the next 5 yrs, we will get more of a consensus about this issue, since both old guards of PG spot would perhaps have ended their carreer, there's gotta be the new numero uno, right ? Hey, who knows, Devin Harris could perhaps land that le for your team, that wouldn't be a bad consolation if your team could never win the championship in that time span.

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    You forget one IMPORTANT thing, that you're not really comparing apples to apples here. Those PGs are in a different team structure & role.

    You can argue that CP3 has better court vision & passing ability than Tony, but Chauncey & Deron are IMO in the same class with Tony regarding those attributes -AVERAGE. They seems having higher APG simply because of those factors mentioned above.

    About shooting touch, both of them are only better & more consistent from the 3pt land, but not any better from 22' in. Gotta admit, that Chauncey is a proven clutch player, so while he can be streaky, he seems to hit the shots in the important games or moments, so the reputation goes beyond the deed.

    Chauncey is better defender against bigger PG or smallish SG, but he will get killed defensively by quick, agile PG of the league. Deron, hmm, i can see him turning into a better defender than Tony if he really puts his mind into it, but at this moment he's still not all that consistent (but he's definitely more rounded in this department, i'll give u that).

    Strength ? Never been Tony's advantage, and won't ever be. But then not many guys are blessed with his speed, and even more rare that has ball handling skill & finishing ability in the paint like him, so it's a moot point ( peeps will always have their strengths & weaknesses, it's just the matter of maximizing your S and working with your W -example, keep going fearlessly into the paint and work hard to improve your jumper).

    Bottomline, outside Nash & Kidd, there is no real conviction regarding the 3rd best PG of the league. Perhaps in the next 5 yrs, we will get more of a consensus about this issue, since both old guards of PG spot would perhaps have ended their carreer, there's gotta be the new numero uno, right ? Hey, who knows, Devin Harris could perhaps land that le for your team, that wouldn't be a bad consolation if your team could never win the championship in that time span.
    Sorry. You're wrong. Chris Paul is better.

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