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No . Is the toll road concept really that hard to grasp??
No . Is the toll road concept really that hard to grasp??
Good arguments guys.
BTW-- Terry Hall is hot...
Because they are tired of the hour it takes to go the 10 miles from one suicide bombing to the next?
281 north of 1604 is out of control. I really can't imagine that anyone who has to deal with that on a daily basis would oppose a toll road. To at least have an opportunity to avoid the worst of it.
I had not been north of 1604 on 281 in some time until I was out that way a week or so ago. What a nightmare!! I won't complain about IH 10 for a long time. How people can stand all those stoplights on a highway!
If the choice is no road or a toll road, I would think toll road gets the vote.
I believe the stop lights were placed along 281 to reduce the number of motor vehicle accidents that occured on 281. I know BBVFD was frequently "working" an accident at 281/Borgfeld and 281/Bulverde before the stoplights. Now it is a little less frequent that they "work" an accident at either of these two intersections.
IMHO, I don't see where that matters but since you ask I've been there many, many times.
And thank you johnsmith for your response. I stand corrrected and IMHO you've made me realize that the toll roads will be built. Not if, but when.
Oh really? Well then wait until they toll roads AND intersections by your house and you have to pay everyday to use an exisitng freeway. Pay for an exisitng road already paid for on top of the gas taxes you pay for.
Jesus Christ! Do some research on the project before saying anything else.
I guess ignorance really IS bliss.
Jesus Christ. There are toll roads all over the place. Austin, Houston, and Dallas, just to name a few.
When I was in Dallas this summer we took the Bush tollway to the soccer game all the way to Pizza Hut Stadium where they're still doing construction. Of course it was a , but things will get better. I can only hope that the construction of this proposed toll road looks better then it did there. Along with Twisted Dawg's train of thought, intersections and tolls in front of your house...have you seen a toll road in front of subdivisions? They have the non-toll in front of them. I don't see your argument at all.
And as far as the money goes, you'll get a speed pass and just fly through the the thing.
hahahahahaha I remember when I was for Toll Roads in the past and people were all up in arms against me and now some of those people are for them.
Toll Roads are the way to go.
I have not researched toll roads. For those who have, please understand my question is not a firm position yet, but only a question.
Will toll roads really solve the issue? Yes, they will accrue money, but won't they also just divert the problem of overcrowding traffic to another sector of non-toll roads?
imagine the roads as they are right now
then, imagine adding additional lanes to them which can be used if YOU WANT TO PAY.
Some will, some wont
therefore, some traffic will then be on the toll roads because they wanted to pay to use them.
in return, since those people are on the toll roads, they will NOT be on the free roads.
simple math.
To clarify, nothing will change for the people who already drive for free, but for those who want to forego the free lanes, they can pay to use the toll road?
If yes, I vote Aye on Proposition Good Idea.
EXACTLY.
So those people that are fighting this are either
A. Arguing just because they like to argue
B. Do not want people to have a choice
C. Are just plain clueless.
FINALLY SOMEBODY GETS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I think it's gonna happen no matter what anyone says; something absolutely needs to be done about the traffic. On my daily trips up and down 281 (several times per day) the traffic that screws it all up the worst are the zillions of construction related vehicles; I will be SOOOOO pissed if they start offering those companies any deals. Does anyone think that might ease up after the area is all built up? Also what about the merchants along 281? I can't imagine they would be real happy about a toll road.
That's BS !! I don't work anymore, live out by Smithson Valley and I use 281 almost daily. Even going to the pharmacy causes me to drive to 281/Evans. That happens to be the closest Walgreens and it's only a short (ha) 25 minute drive. If I need anything other than what is carried at HEB or Home Depot then I'm on 281 into SA. Doctor's appt , guitar lessons, cheer-leading and gymnastics classes, shopping, haircuts, optometrist, and chiropractor to name a few. Even Moms who homeschool have these things to do as well. In addition, most homeschoolers take their kids on outings to learn things.
I'm not standing up for what this woman, Terri Hall beleives in but you're wrong if you think she wont use the toll road as often as anyone else.
it seems to me there is a correlation between prowarness and protollroadness
I would love for someone to explain why that is
More toll roads = more cars on the road
More cars on the road = more petroleum needed
More petroleum needed = pro war
De nada
Because those people utterly and absolutely believe in privatisation of EVERYTHING - the military (Blackwater, etc), roads, health, education, everything, should be privately run in their opinion. They are the embodiment of pure free market socio-economic ideology, despite the fact that some services are poorly provided for or missed out altogether by the market.
I guess you've never met TxDot. They can't do a ing thing correct.
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