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his moving is very good,especially in the fast quick
Anyway, it's too soon to have a clear idea of what Spurs will do next summer. There are just too much unknowns for the moment.
his moving is very good,especially in the fast quick
Elson - $3M
KT - $8M
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First of all....mimicking me on the "bottom line" makes you look like an idiot.
Secondly, I don't see how a 35yr old udersized center that is a default starter on a sorry team should expect anywhere near the MLE, let alone the $8M he's currently getting. Maybe he is a $3M, one-year deal...but I'd take him at that price over Elson at that price ANY DAY.
Lastly, I don't think it's out of the realm of possiblity that Kurt Thomas would sign for LLE/vet min to play for a contender.
No bottom line needed....
Mimicking something stupid makes you look stupid.
If Aaron Williams at 35 can get the LLE, Kurt Thomas at 36 can get more.
The fact that Thomas value is at $3M, $4M or $5M isn't that important. What is important is that his value is higher than the LLE and that Spurs have only one MLE. You can't sign both the SG/SF you want and who will cost a big part of the MLE and Kurt Thomas. Re-signing Elson has the edge to let the whole MLE for a SG/SF.
Of course, it's not of the realm of possibility but players signing for less than their market value isn't the rule in nba. If Spurs let Elson go and sign a vet for the min/LLE, he likely won't be as good as Thomas.
Let's imagine this scenario for next summer :
- Horry retires.
- Mahinmi isn't ready to contribute.
- Spurs spend the whole MLE on a SG/SF.
- No great opportunities like Kurt Thomas for the min/LLE available.
- Elson had a so-so second year with Spurs (quite similar to his first year with Spurs).
These assumptions aren't that unrealistic. In this scenario, re-signing Elson to something like a $5M/2 years contract isn't a that bad idea given that I'm not sure you can find a better player for the min/LLE.
Would love Kurt Thomas on this team. Better than average defender. Superior rebounder with the right type of mindset. An excellent option. Probably a bit too expensive for the Spurs tastes, though.
Last edited by ArgSpursFan.; 12-10-2007 at 03:45 PM.
Did you forget Tiago Splitter? His buyout is rumored to be VERY reasonable next summer, and his salary will be cheap as a late first rd. pick. I'd say he'll come in and just devour Elson's 18 minutes. He can't be any worse in our system than Cisco will be after two years. Best to start him on his learning curve in '08 than to waste another year or two on a thirty-something Elson.Mimicking something stupid makes you look stupid.
If Aaron Williams at 35 can get the LLE, Kurt Thomas at 36 can get more.
The fact that Thomas value is at $3M, $4M or $5M isn't that important. What is important is that his value is higher than the LLE and that Spurs have only one MLE. You can't sign both the SG/SF you want and who will cost a big part of the MLE and Kurt Thomas. Re-signing Elson has the edge to let the whole MLE for a SG/SF.
Of course, it's not of the realm of possibility but players signing for less than their market value isn't the rule in nba. If Spurs let Elson go and sign a vet for the min/LLE, he likely won't be as good as Thomas.
Let's imagine this scenario for next summer :
- Horry retires.
- Mahinmi isn't ready to contribute.
- Spurs spend the whole MLE on a SG/SF.
- No great opportunities like Kurt Thomas for the min/LLE available.
- Elson had a so-so second year with Spurs (quite similar to his first year with Spurs).
These assumptions aren't that unrealistic. In this scenario, re-signing Elson to something like a $5M/2 years contract isn't a that bad idea given that I'm not sure you can find a better player for the min/LLE.
No need to rush Mahinmi. He can do a year on the bench, or another one shuttling between SA and Austin, if need be.
I didn't forget Splitter. Splitter will sign for sure with Spurs this summer because if eh doesn't sign with Spurs this summer, his euro contract will be automatically extended.
Spurs will likely have Duncan, Oberto, Bonner, Splitter and Mahinmi as PF/C under contract next year. I think Pop will want to add another vet because 3 vets PF/C is not enough for a contender.
Elson Sucks
At least he isn't wearing that ridiculous looking mask anymore.
Were you guys watching the game or just following the box score? He played pretty good defense on Mehmet Okur, and did as well as anyone did against Boozer. If you were going to bad mouth him for a defensive breakdown, and you didn't say anything after he left Dirk wide open for a game winning three, then you missed the in' bus. If you are bad mouthing him because he doesn't put up stats, then you're just a dope.
I dig Elson. Like our esteemed colleague pointed out earlier in the thread, he is good, especially in the fast quick....
I don't think so. My best friend (Suns fans too) couldn't stop herself laughing. We don't remember any good play of Elson last playoffs but I was impressed by Oberto. He was very well guarding Amare. He drew Amare's foul and it out of him. And now he's becoming more confident?. Good for him.
sadly Oberto>Skinner Elson
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