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Simple smack for a simpleton.
Then wipe away the tears.
I don't think you should be proud of bashing Horry. Did you forget to watch the playoffs last year?
Looks like I was right.
Again, did you watch the playoffs last year? Horry shot 42% from the floor, even around 60% of his attempts were three-pointers. I guess you aren't a big fan of the playoffs.
That previous game? You mean those previous two games? You must not be a big fan of the Spurs if you don't even know what's going on.
And shot horribly? Manu shot 47% during that two game stretch. You must not be a big fan of math.
Simple smack for a simpleton.
37 points from 21 shots is horrible?
He's not a big fan of box scores.
duncan228, you should start keeping some kinda tally on your sig or something
Yeah, Manu didn't impact that Utah game at all, despite his "horrible" shooting -- he shot 43% from the floor for the game and 50% on shots inside the arc; we really should expect more from the guy!!
How can anyone think that a guy impacts a game when he only collected 8 boards, rolled up 6 assists, grabbed 3 steals, blocked one shot, forced Utah to change its defense to account for him, contested numerous passes on the defensive end, and forced who knows how many turnovers?
I stopped counting after I got a spur for it!duncan228, you should start keeping some kinda tally on your sig or something
Yes, I watched them. Elaboration coming later in the post.
Where he shot 42% from the field? 35% from 3? Those numbers are absolutely atrocious, especially for a big man. Make no mistake about it.Again, did you watch the playoffs last year? Horry shot 42% from the floor, even around 60% of his attempts were three-pointers. I guess you aren't a big fan of the playoffs.
I mean the game where he shot 9-21 against Utah. Where he had to get 17 of his points from the referees.That previous game? You mean those previous two games? You must not be a big fan of the Spurs if you don't even know what's going on.
9-21. Point made.And shot horribly? Manu shot 47% during that two game stretch. You must not be a big fan of math.
When you're getting Dwayne Wade treatment it is.
Where did I say he didn't have a solid game? People are acting like he was some sort of Godsend. Simply wasn't the case.
Those are good numbers for a guy who mostly shoot threes. His true shooting percentage after factoring in the three-pointers was 52.5% from the field. Still atrocious? Looks like you made a mistake about it.
37 points on 21 shots. You are seriously going to complain about that?
37 points on 21 shots. Point lost.
Hmmmmmmmmm Page number 3 going on page number 4.
Throw whatever fancy stats out you want. Fact of the matter is, he is there to contribute 3 point shooting and spread the floor for Duncan on offense. He converted at a 35% success rate. That is terrible. There's no way around it.
Not going to complain. I'm going to say the referees gave him the majority of his points. Handed them to him, on a platter.37 points on 21 shots. You are seriously going to complain about that?
20 points and 17 from the referees.37 points on 21 shots.
You're talking throughout this thread about players impacting a game when they aren't shooting well. Taking at face value your assertion that Manu didn't shoot the ball well against Utah, it's clear that he did impact that game significantly, despite his "poor" shooting. And the Spurs don't win that game if Manu doesn't impact it the way that he did. I'm not sure why you fight against those seemingly-apparent truths.
Way to take one horrible game and generalize it as the norm.First of all, what the is Tim Duncan STILL sitting for? Wasn't there some speculation he MIGHT even start against UTAH? GS is a perfect game for him to come back. They have no inside players whatsoever, he would have a field day inside, even at 70%. Obviously the Spurs are going to be in trouble without Duncan vs GS. GS is a better team than them without Duncan, especially at home. They showed it last night. Duncan is the difference maker against a small ball team like them. I have news for Popovich, unless you bring Duncan back in a month... he's not going to be 100%. You should have brought him back last night, when the team really needed him. Nice move, .
I love the Matt Bonner haters. He has a game Kevin Garnett would aspire to have... and yet, people still manage to complain about something he does wrong. Excellent. Maybe it's because he has red hair? I don't know. What I do know is that I was right about him. I was particularly right about him being 10x better than Horry. Last night only confirms that. Yeah, you really believe Horry could put up 25 and 17, on 3-4 from 3? Riiight.Oh wait, Horry can block a shot every now and then! He's clearly more valuable to the team than Bonner!
Another thing last night confirms is that when I said Manu cannot be a franchise player, I was also right. See, when Tim has a bad shooting game, it isn't nearly as bad as the game Manu had last night, because he impacts the game in so many other facets. That's because he is a franchise player. All Manu did was turn the ball over and play terrible defense. He looked like he was scared/rattled out there. Not surprisingly, they lost. Franchise players can bring it on a consistent basis. Manu can have great games. Manu cannot have great games consistently throughout a season being the primary option - being the defenses primary option to stop.
That is all.
Can't argue about Bonner. He is a modern day Viking just conquering Warriors he is suppose to conquer.
that may be the most idiotic thing you've said all day
Did the 17 "from the referees" not count or something?
See, I'm going to go back to the playoffs 2 years ago against Dallas, when Dirk was winning the game at the foul line. That is essentially what Manu did against Utah. Granted, Manu is a better penetrator than Dirk, but it's still the same. Games should not be won at the foul line. Getting nearly 20 attempts at the foul line is ridiculous. I watched the game also, some of those calls given to him were questionable. Sorry, I'm not as biased as everyone else here.
35% is good? I don't see what you're trying to say. I could shoot 35% on wide open 3's.
Timmy is still not moving around that well. He could get by if it was the playoffs, but against a run and gun team like the Warriors, it wouldn't have been a good idea. He was moving around "all right" in shoot around, but he was HEAVILY icing afterwards. I think if it were slower teams they were playing instead of the Warriors and Lakers, he'd probably be in the line up.
First of all, 35% is above average in the NBA. Above average does not equal terrible. There's no way around it.
Second of all, would you rather have a player who shoots 50% who never shoots three-pointers or a three-point shooter who only shoots threes but makes 35% of his attempts? Thanks in advance.
You obviously didn't see him earning all those calls. Watch more. Thanks in advance.
They counted. They also counted when Dirk owned the Spurs from the line in the playoffs. Spurs fans were pretty irate about that. They're perfectly fine with it when it's Manu, though.Did the 17 "from the referees" not count or something?
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