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    If Vince lucks out (like he did last year in making the pro bowl as a FORTH option), he will get raped in the first round. It won't be because his team "sucks", its because he is over-rated and will be nothing more than a great college player and a sucky pro player. all the Vince homers!!
    how can you be a houston fan, but hate VY?

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    how can you be a houston fan, but hate VY?

    You would be surprised how many fans hate him, especially in the Austin Area.......another story all together. Yes I love what VY did for UT, but bottom line, he plays for the enemy. He is no longer the Longhorn QB. People need to get the over it and get his nuts out of their mouth.

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    LOL wow if he gets thrown into the category of those guys, you know that has to be pretty bad. Still young, yeah he is but in the case of Carr and Harrington, they haven't improved and were sought out to be future stars. I said this day one, (and not because the Texans passed on him, I was happy about that) Vince will be one of the best college players that we have ever seen, however he won't be a great NFL QB. A mobile QB has proven that they cannot get the job done.......ex Moon, Culpepper, Mcnabb, Vick. Sooner or later you have to throw the ball and be a pocket QB. Yes running is a bonus and should be a last resort. Bottom line, VY isn't accurate and probably never will be.
    Moon is a HOFer, and McNabb has a chance to be an HOF QB too. Don't forget Steve Young.

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    Moon is a HOFer, and McNabb has a chance to be an HOF QB too. Don't forget Steve Young.
    How many championships does Mc , and Moon have? Why did you bring up Steve Young? I never mentioned him as a mobile Qb?

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    You would be surprised how many fans hate him, especially in the Austin Area.......another story all together. Yes I love what VY did for UT, but bottom line, he plays for the enemy. He is no longer the Longhorn QB. People need to get the over it and get his nuts out of their mouth.
    Interesting. I was just curious.

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    How many championships does Mc , and Moon have? Why did you bring up Steve Young? I never mentioned him as a mobile Qb?
    I'm just saying that those are 3 very good QB's. McNabb and Young were very mobile. Cunningham was a very good QB that was mobile as well. Sure, McNabb and Cunningham don't have rings, but it doesn't change that they are/were elite QBs. Being mobile, with less throwing ability than someone like Peyton Manning or Carson Palmer doesn't mean you can't be a great QB.

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    You would be surprised how many fans hate him, especially in the Austin Area.......another story all together. Yes I love what VY did for UT, but bottom line, he plays for the enemy. He is no longer the Longhorn QB. People need to get the over it and get his nuts out of their mouth.
    WOW, you are really stupid. Austin is Cowboys country and the loyalty for Vince runs deep there. There is what, like 100 Texan fans in Austin??? Why don't you quit acting like you know what you are talking about. How many times have you had to be corrected in this thread now. Just get you ass back to the Club and the Quattro and leave the sports talk to the men okay?

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    Interesting. I was just curious.
    I know it raises a lot of up-roar talking about Vince. There are a lot of people that love him especially in Austin. Yes a lot of Houston fans wanted him in Houston and that first victory he had against us showed it all. The fans went crazy. I for one didnt "hate" him when he was first drafted but I for one am now SICK of the way people continue to suck his when he hasn't done . Yeah he made the pro bowl last year, but was a 4th alternate. To me that is NOT making it, but that is just me. Its funny to see the Vince Homer get his panties in a bunch defending his "man".

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    WOW, you are really stupid. Austin is Cowboys country and the loyalty for Vince runs deep there. There is what, like 100 Texan fans in Austin??? Why don't you quit acting like you know what you are talking about. How many times have you had to be corrected in this thread now. Just get you ass back to the Club and the Quattro and leave the sports talk to the men okay?

    Now your bringing up the cowboys vs Texans?? Way to stay on topic. The state of Texas is Cowboys country, I don't deny it. First off let me ask you a question, do you live in Austin? I have been to the Austin chapter of the Texans fan club and there are way more than 100. A lot of them are longhorns and love what vince DID. Bottom line is they root for the Texans and see Vince as the enemy now. You don't see this town ga ga over the Bucs since Sims plays there. You don't see them all Chargers fans since Jammer is there. It gets tiring hearing about Vince and the ans. Been corrected, if im not mistaken this whole thread is opinionated so no one is right or wrong. If you hide the name and look at the stats, vince is anything but INVINCEBLE is all I am saying.

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    Just get you ass back to the Club and the Quattro and leave the sports talk to the men okay?

    LOL you just gave yourself away!! Nice troll Vince Homer!!

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    Back to the original topic of the thread...

    I doubt the ans make the playoffs this year, but if they do they could be a scary team with their defensive ability. If Vince has one of his "on" days in the playoffs it could be very bad for someone. I wonder what Fisher thinks about Vince's progress and potential to progress farther in the future? He definitely needs consistency, and that starts with limiting the turnovers. He needs to work on throwing within the frame of the offense and not into tight, double, or triple coverage, but if he gets that down he could be very good. I'd give him another season and really stress taking the throws that the defense is giving.

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    Now your bringing up the cowboys vs Texans?? Way to stay on topic. The state of Texas is Cowboys country, I don't deny it. First off let me ask you a question, do you live in Austin? I have been to the Austin chapter of the Texans fan club and there are way more than 100. A lot of them are longhorns and love what vince DID. Bottom line is they root for the Texans and see Vince as the enemy now. You don't see this town ga ga over the Bucs since Sims plays there. You don't see them all Chargers fans since Jammer is there. It gets tiring hearing about Vince and the ans. Been corrected, if im not mistaken this whole thread is opinionated so no one is right or wrong. If you hide the name and look at the stats, vince is anything but INVINCEBLE is all I am saying.
    Lived in Austin for 5 years and still have friends and business associates there. So I still spend alot of time there. Im not trying to make this Cowboys vs. Texans because that would be too easy. Texans don't come anywhere near the Cowboys. Im mearly correcting and educating you on how people feel about Vince in Austin. How many folks were at your gay Texan chapter in Austin????? Well there are 1.5 million people living in Austin and bet that the vast majority of that number are Cowboy fans and could give a less about the Texans, therefore making it easy to root for Vince, a player they followed while he was here. A player that took Longhorn fans to 2 rose bowls, beat USC and brought home a championship. If you think for one damn minute we will forget that, the yourself.

    The fact that you try to compare Vince to Simms and Jammer is just asinine.

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    Lived in Austin for 5 years and still have friends and business associates there. So I still spend alot of time there. Im not trying to make this Cowboys vs. Texans because that would be too easy. Texans don't come anywhere near the Cowboys. Im mearly correcting and educating you on how people feel about Vince in Austin. How many folks were at your gay Texan chapter in Austin????? Well there are 1.5 million people living in Austin and bet that the vast majority of that number are Cowboy fans and could give a less about the Texans, therefore making it easy to root for Vince, a player they followed while he was here. A player that took Longhorn fans to 2 rose bowls, beat USC and brought home a championship. If you think for one damn minute we will forget that, the yourself.

    The fact that you try to compare Vince to Simms and Jammer is just asinine.

    You forget the topic and everything I started with wasn't about the Texans, it was about what I thought about Vince as a pro player. I simply said I don't think he has what it takes to win a championship in the pros and you Vince homers get all pissed off. I laugh at you and Ofactor..........well considering your the same guy is even funnier.

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    I know it raises a lot of up-roar talking about Vince. There are a lot of people that love him especially in Austin. Yes a lot of Houston fans wanted him in Houston and that first victory he had against us showed it all. The fans went crazy. I for one didnt "hate" him when he was first drafted but I for one am now SICK of the way people continue to suck his when he hasn't done . Yeah he made the pro bowl last year, but was a 4th alternate. To me that is NOT making it, but that is just me. Its funny to see the Vince Homer get his panties in a bunch defending his "man".
    I'm wondering who all is "sucking his "? There are a few fans here that love him, including me, and think that he will be an elite QB. He isn't hardly talked about in the media, and about the only person that makes it a point to talk about him every chance possible is Merril Hoge, who is a total moron and hater of VY for no reason whatsoever.

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    You don't see this town ga ga over the Bucs since Sims plays there. You don't see them all Chargers fans since Jammer is there.
    Then again, Sims and Jammer didn't singlehandedly win Texas a le, while having unquestionably the greatest single performance in College Football history, all while upsetting the "greatest college football team in history", did they?

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    You forget the topic and everything I started with wasn't about the Texans, it was about what I thought about Vince as a pro player. I simply said I don't think he has what it takes to win a championship in the pros and you Vince homers get all pissed off. I laugh at you and Ofactor..........well considering your the same guy is even funnier.
    Nice way to out. Im also monoslaby1k, Fillmoe, KoriEllis, and Whott. I guess I could be you too, but then that would make me a so nah...

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    Nice way to out. Im also monoslaby1k, Fillmoe, KoriEllis, and Whott. I guess I could be you too, but then that would make me a so nah...

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    I'm wondering who all is "sucking his "? There are a few fans here that love him, including me, and think that he will be an elite QB. He isn't hardly talked about in the media, and about the only person that makes it a point to talk about him every chance possible is Merril Hoge, who is a total moron and hater of VY for no reason whatsoever.

    Well there are a few who post here that ride his jock, one of the posted earlier. I guess i meant that from a Austin perspective. True he has been quiet in the media as of late. I just seem to always argue this topic and its just a matter of opinion. I don't think he will be great and win a le and for my opinion I get called an idiot ex Zack and Ofactor. Like I said before if you look at his stats without showing his name, everyone would say man this guy isn't very good, am I right? His future of course, only time will tell. Maybe ill be proven wrong, but maybe I a right. No one will really know. I tired to stay on topic, but others that defend him start bashing either the Texans or the Texans qb. If this was a Vince vs Mario or Vince vs Texans thread then fine, but it wasn't.

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    Then again, Sims and Jammer didn't singlehandedly win Texas a le, while having unquestionably the greatest single performance in College Football history, all while upsetting the "greatest college football team in history", did they?

    I agree and your right on that, but like I said he left and is no longer the UT qb, im just waiting for it to finally die down.

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    Nice way to out. Im also monoslaby1k, Fillmoe, KoriEllis, and Whott. I guess I could be you too, but then that would make me a so nah...

    You could be but I know who you really are.

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    Well there are a few who post here that ride his jock, one of the posted earlier. I guess i meant that from a Austin perspective. True he has been quiet in the media as of late. I just seem to always argue this topic and its just a matter of opinion. I don't think he will be great and win a le and for my opinion I get called an idiot ex Zack and Ofactor. Like I said before if you look at his stats without showing his name, everyone would say man this guy isn't very good, am I right? His future of course, only time will tell. Maybe ill be proven wrong, but maybe I a right. No one will really know. I tired to stay on topic, but others that defend him start bashing either the Texans or the Texans qb. If this was a Vince vs Mario or Vince vs Texans thread then fine, but it wasn't.

    Jesus Christ man!

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    You would be surprised how many fans hate him, especially in the Austin Area.......another story all together. Yes I love what VY did for UT, but bottom line, he plays for the enemy. He is no longer the Longhorn QB. People need to get the over it and get his nuts out of their mouth.
    No one in the Austin area hates Vince, unless that person is an A&M graduate or is a fan of USC. Dude is a God here, much like in Houston.

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    You would be surprised how many fans hate him, especially in the Austin Area.......another story all together. Yes I love what VY did for UT, but bottom line, he plays for the enemy. He is no longer the Longhorn QB. People need to get the over it and get his nuts out of their mouth.
    but I for one am now SICK of the way people continue to suck his when he hasn't done .
    So, by many fans in the Austin area who hate him, you mean yourself. I see...

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    So, by many fans in the Austin area who hate him, you mean yourself. I see...

    LOL well myself included, but there are others. As far as Houston, there are more than you would expect. Yes there are the majority in both towns that love him, but we will see how long that lasts.

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    No one in the Austin area hates Vince, unless that person is an A&M graduate or is a fan of USC. Dude is a God here, much like in Houston.

    There are a lot of Texans fans that are tired of hearing about Vince and I think a lot of this has to do with Keye, but thats another story.

    I know that isn't VY's fault and like what was said the Majority either love the cowboys are love Vince and don't care about the Texans. With all of that aside and with my newfound animosity for VY, I still even before he was drafted said that I didn't believe he would excel in the pros the way he did in college. Which was the main area of this topic anyway. Like I said before its just my opinion, and it means nothing to anyone else but me.

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