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One of the 82 LARGELY MEANINGLESS regular season games is your definition of "big situation"?
Interesting.
Though I do not think this loss is on him, he does have a tendency to up in big situations...
One of the 82 LARGELY MEANINGLESS regular season games is your definition of "big situation"?
Interesting.
You know this is a BS thread. This thread starter could've just opted to do what those other post trolls like to do....Say some inflammatory thread topic and use the word "DISCUSS".
He just opted to get in a few more licks at Ginobili. So we ain't perfect at home...wait till playoffs. #20 will BLOW UP and decapitate Phoenix. Just when they thought things were going good, thunder will strike from the left hand of Argentina.
Manu made critical mistakes at key points of games in 2006 too.
the omen is bad.
He also has a bald spot.
Get him over here, folks.
We MIGHT take a closer look at him in Euroleague basketball.
the last turnover vs the Suns wasn't Manu's fault at all.
Whoever seted the screems for Manu to grab the ball at that corner did it wrong.+There wasn't much time left in order to look around for an opened teammate,so He just tryed to dribble it to penetrate or shoot for 3,and unfortunately didn't workout with a defender right next to him.
Whoever started this thread aint seeing the whole picture,or is just a blind homer.
Personally I wouldn't gave that last ball to Manu,coze it was too obvius that the whole Suns team was gonna be ready to go at him.
....an offensive rebound for which should have never been had Duncan appropriately boxed Stoudamire out. Because Tim failed to do so, Amare soared over Tim for the rebound. I don't recall anyone talking about how crucial that play was or faulting Duncan for this miscue.
coze it´s all Manu´s fault,as usuall.
Timmy is untouchable for some Spurs fans,not Manu's case though.
CIA Manu
What?
Like the Finals, games 1, 2 and 7, in 2005 when carried the team and should have been co-MVP?
Like the two 37 point games?
Like when he makes 6/6 from the line at the end of a game to ice it?
Gimme a FRIGGIN BREAK.
He's not infallible, but he is one of the clutchest players in the league.
With Manu you take the good with the bad. He's so crazy and takes chances that sometimes it doesn't work out, but most of the time it does.
I think this thread and brand new article will answer a lot of questions:
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83621
Manu's exhausted...and his left shooting hand is still bothering him...
Other Spurs stars' injuries wear out Ginobili
Jeff McDonald
San Antonio Express-News
MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Manu Ginobili's brain tells him he has only played seven games since the start of December, same as any other healthy Spurs player. The calendar concurs.
Ginobili's aching body tells him he's played many more than that.
With an ankle sprain epidemic separately striking down his two most prominent Spurs teammates — first Tim Duncan, then Tony Parker — the pressure has been on Ginobili to be the Band-Aid for the Spurs' offense.
It has made for a wearisome 21/2 weeks for Ginobili, in which seven games have felt like 14.
"I am having to play more minutes and to try to do more," Ginobili said. "Everything requires double the effort."
The Spurs, still shorthanded in Memphis tonight, are hoping Ginobili can shake off the funk that seems to have engulfed him since the team's last road trip.
It will be Duncan's third game back from an ankle injury that cost him four. It will be Parker's fourth game missed while nursing his own sore ankle.
The Spurs have not played a full game with both of their 2007 All-Stars this month. Instead, they have had to lean on a 2005 All-Star — Ginobili — to try and pick up the slack.
In a strange twist, injuries to Duncan and Parker have taken a toll on the one Spurs star who remains relatively healthy.
Ginobili was transcendent in the first two games with Duncan out, producing consecutive 37-point nights to ignite victories over Dallas and Utah.
In the four games since, Ginobili has struggled to recreate that magic. He is averaging a respectable 14 points but is shooting a woeful 26 percent from the field.
The Spurs were 1-3 in that span.
If you ask Ginobili, there is a good reason he isn't playing as well now as he was two weeks ago.
"I don't feel as good as I did two weeks ago," Ginobili said. "I feel tired."
Trying to carry a team for six games will do that, especially to a player not accustomed to the workload that has him playing 33.2 minutes per game in that stretch.
Throughout his career, Ginobili has never averaged more than 29.6 minutes a game.
Against Dallas and Utah, he demonstrated the kind of gaudy numbers he can put up if given a full night's work. Since then, he has showed what can happen when the minutes — and bruises — pile up.
There was the 4-of-14 night marred by five turnovers in a loss at Golden State. A 5-of-17 clankfest in another loss to the Lakers that included seven turnovers. A 4-of-11 effort in a victory over Denver.
In Monday's 100-95 loss to Phoenix, Ginobili finished with 18 points but only made 6 of 19 shots and had a costly turnover on the final possession.
In addition to simple fatigue, Ginobili says the left hand contusion he suffered in a Dec. 2 collision with Portland's James Jones still bothers him.
For now, however, coach Gregg Popovich doesn't see any need to keep Ginobili off the floor.
"He hasn't expressed anything like that," Popovich said. "He's healthy. That's the most important thing."
What Ginobili could use, even more than a night off, is a team at full strength.
Ever since his twin 37-point outbursts, defenses have been more cognizant of his whereabouts, vying to keep him from his favorite scoring spots.
"Before, they were worried about Tony and Tim," Robert Horry said. "Now it's Manu, more than Tony and Tim. Everybody is playing us like that."
Duncan, back and returning to form, should help.
And with Parker tentatively due to rejoin Duncan in the lineup before the end of the week, the Spurs are set to suit up a full complement of All-Stars for the first time since November.
Ginobili's aching body can hardly wait.
source:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...n.28ce03b.html
WOW...I'm convinced that the majority of people in this forum are under the age of ten. This is sad and embarrassing.
you didn't know they changed the site name to Kinder garden Spurs Talk???
Last edited by ArgSpursFan.; 12-19-2007 at 08:38 AM.
Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves for bashing on our team. Duncan just returning from injury has a monster game. Parker sitting out. Newbies getting thrown in the line up and we still almost win. That game was ours for the taking, but we fell short. I am proud of our guys. I have even more confidence in them now. When the roster is in tact and at 100% health, we'll be dominate. The extra playing time for some of the bench folks will be an asset down the road.
Manu needs to cool it with the coke and the s
No, big situation to me is game 7 of the 2006 conference finals.
While the thread is overreaching....
there is some smidgen of something there.
For some reason, it seems Manu has been involved in more of this type of play in his time here as oppossed to Tim or Parker.
Is it because he is routinely chosen to take the last shot in situations where everything hangs on one possession?
Before Manu came to the Spurs I imagine Tim was that person, however I cannot remember a stretch thinking that Duncan seems to routinely blow the last play. Same can be said for Robinson.
Maybe they miss the last shot which many players will do.
But I think the badly made point of the thread is that Manu's reckless abandon plays at the end of the game have gone the wrong way enough to be "expected".
BTW...I am a fan of all the Spurs and actually take offense at the rampant "knocking one Spur down to build another one up" that goes on around here.
This is the most wishy washy place I have ever seen. A couple of weeks ago I would have sworn Manu was the second coming of Christ. These are just regular season games and though having hte best record in the league is pretty cool I rather we be ready in april.
This thread has fail written all over the place. Not only the starter but also some others are reallly monkeysapiens. If you blame the loss on that last turnoever then you just didn't watch the game, especially the last 3-4 possessions. You are right, some of these people thought Manu was Krishna's second incarnation 2 weeks ago. Their comments only explains the BB IQ they have which seems to be very weak. I could write down reasons why this game was lost and while Manu shares responsibility with the rest of the team, I don't believe it was only him to be blamed, traded, dimished, etc.
For those who are blaming Manu, I will take note so when manu is God again, I can show what you have said today.
The spurs have won without Manu on the team. They have never won without Duncan. Duncan is the key piece to all their championships and a far more valuable player than Manu.
Not only game 7, wasn't it game 5 (or game 6 don't remember exactly which game)in that same series that the ball got knocked off Manu's knee and went out of bounds on the last possession that cost the spurs the game.
yeah. I think it was a botched dribble handoff.
Damn right TD is untouchable. He is the cornerstone of this franchise and the main reason for its success throughout 10 years.
Seriously...some ppl need to step away from the ledge.
Nice reference to The Mahabharata by the way.
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