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This is all I can find.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS7wJtUGAXg
Can i get payed already..lol
Real hard to tell but it's not like that TD affected the outcome any, so I don't know what there is to about. I said for weeks before this game that the ans can't find the end zone for and I was right.
ball broke the plane on second effort
linemen did not help him he moved his arm up and held out the football
nov turner was right
needed more options in playoffs then lt
jackson and chambers got it done
players did not think so but they finnaly got convinved
the ravens showed teams you can stop lt but then rivers played and won
He was clearly being pushed by his lineman. His extension is what broke the plane the second time, but unless he regained forward momentum from being pushed ahead by the lineman, he never would have been able to reach over.
The booth review said he broke the plane on the second effort so the refs concurred that he didn't make it on the initial push. At that point they should have negated the TD since the lineman pushed him forward.
The ans need a big play threat. They need to hold onto the ball also. We will be back next year. Cuck the Folts and Peyton ass manning with his two all star recievers.
Initial lunge one camera angle looks like LT certainly broke plane. However that camera is a yard or two removed from the goaline. dk why it was not placed right on the goaline. As play is going camera crew moves camera not only to goaline but they overcorrect and go a yard or two into the playing field. Screw up by camera crew for sure!
Opposite side angle looks like Tennessee middle linebacker Stephen Tullochkept him out, altho again the camera is not placed on the goaling but rather a yard or two in the playing field.
Then it looks like his momentum was stopped, altho in realtime it's all pretty much one motion.
2nd effort definitely a result of push in back by teamate Brandon Manumaleuna #86.
So did referee Ed Hochuli conclude LT broke it on the first lunge and thus conclude it was a blown call initially thus award? Because clearly LT got pushed in on #2.
i dnt think it was nearly as clear as you say it was. Looked to me like LT went airborne, got popped, stood up and then extended his arm. he was being pushed forward by his offense and being pushed back by the defense, it was the arm extension that got him the td, not a push from behind.
Without the push from behind the arm extension does not cross goaline. Not even close. Clear as a bell on attempt #2.
Maybe somebodywill have a YouTube or the lame NFL will allow a vid to be put out.
I doubt the latter.
The call on the field was that his second effort made it in, not his first effort. Why would they be reviewing a play that in their eyes didn't happen? They couldn't come out of the booth review and say, "after reviewing the play, we ed up, the runner scored on the first and second efforts."
And leave it to Mono to about LT some more. Do you truly think this Touchdown would have made a difference? The ans had scored two field goals up until this point, and had done absolutely nothing in the second half against the Chargers D. What makes you think they would have been able to move the ball from their own 2 inch line? Would have still been a 4 point game with the Chargers getting the ball back. Stop your ing whining.
Last edited by TheSanityAnnex; 01-07-2008 at 04:08 PM.
the booth reviews the entire play. if he made it in the first time, that would be all they needed. they obviously didn't think he made it the first time, and needed to review the rest of the play since they specifically stated that he made it on the second effort. which brings into question why they ignored the fact that he got pushed forward on said second effort.
I'm sure if this was NE-SD in the AFC Championship Game and it was Maroney getting pushed into the end zone with a 10-6 lead, you'd have no problem with it as well, right?
nevermind, ignore my example there. it was very poorly thought out.
there's no way San Diego will be in the AFC Championship Game this year.
Ehh........whatever. I still think he makes it initially. ans linebacker hits LT while his feet are still in the endzone.
Watching it in slow motion does two things.
1. appears LT makes it initially.
2. appears LT's forward progress is stopped.
Watching it in real time does two things.
1. appears LT does not make it initially.
2. appears LT's forward progress is not stopped.
It was a coach challenge, not a booth review.
either way, the entire play is reviewed.It was a coach challenge, not a booth review.
monoIt was a coach challenge, not a booth review.I dont think so. CCs only the limited call in question is looked at.either way, the entire play is reviewed.
Exactly what I was pointing out.
you're wrong.
Ex: Coach challenges that a receiver was in fact inbounds.
Referee reviews play and sees the receiver was not in fact inbounds, but defender facemasked him on attempted catch. The referee can not come out of the booth and say, "the receiver was out of bounds, but he was facemasked, so first down".
Not how it works Mono.
jags-chargers game. mathis gets the interception, gets up and runs with it. tomlin challenges that a part of mathis landed out of bounds. turns out, he was down by contact to begin with. refs call that he's down by contact, and don't mention that he was also out of bounds because it wasn't relevant.
facemask isn't a reviewable offense.
No one challenged a facemask. I'm pointing out the fact that only what is being challenged can be reviewed.
Fisher challenged the second effort TD call made by the referees, not the first effort possible TD the referees possibly missed. And again, not really a big deal. ans could not move the ball.
no, the entire play is reviewed. if a coach challenges if a player caught a ball inbounds, and it turns out that he actually stepped out of bounds, came back in, then caught the ball, they will rule that it was an illegal touch even though the coach didn't challenge an illegal touch. illegal touch and challenging if a player caught the ball out of bounds are both reviewable plays. even though the ref challenged one, if the other happened then it can be overturned as well.
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