Tonkin?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

boutons stop jacking it to anti-government blogs for once

doesn't anybody think for one second that it may be possible, as far as the transcripts go, that both are lying? What if there was an encounter and some third party did radio in to the US ship "you're going to blow up in two minutes"
anything could have happened and i think you're overestimating the stupidity of this administration if you think they even think they have a chance at starting a war with Iran

[boutons_]

That's the problem with lying. You never know who's telling the truth. The best, most well-financed, loudest liars win.

In general, no matter who's in power, it's the people out of power who work to uncover the lies and truths, while the people in power work to hide their lies and truth. The a fundamental role of the "press", to be in opposition. I'm sure Fox will start fulfilling that role as soon as the Dems win big in November.

Lying NOT aside, this isn't the first incident, nor the last, according to ex Navy men, but what do they know?

Maybe dubya forgot all the other incidents, or maybe his staff didn't want to break his bubble of ignorant fantasies with such trivial . The Greatest Military Power in the History of the Universe getting its chains yanked by a couple speedboats?

And where's head's stick stirring this pot?

The JCoS is on record AGAINST attacking Iran. A mutiny against an order to bomb Iran would make for great TV.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

So I don't get it. How do the events in the strait of hormuz make boutons happy?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

How predictably predictable. God damn the ing marriott-jewish voting bloc of this country.
pro jewish rhetoric in a presidential election is about as american as apple pie

[ChumpDumper]

I agree that US support for Israel has been over the top, but pulling out of the process completely is completely unrealistic.