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tony may not stay in SA. just saying.
should start right after the season building around Tony.
tony may not stay in SA. just saying.
Honestly i don't think Tony is the kind of guy you should build your team around.
How many teams successfully build around PGs these days? I think Tony would be an integral piece of the puzzle going forward, but the Spurs MUST get a good/great frontline player to ease the scoring burden off Tony.
That is why I'm all about the Spurs going after Chris Bosh in 2010. At 26, he'd be the perfect frontline player to go alongside TD for his last two years and then "build around" thereafter, IMO.
Manu would be perfect as trade bait(package deal).
You hope for a high lottery pick.
It's not as if the Spurs have some long history of not being good. In 32 NBA seasons, they've made the playoffs 27 times, have the 2nd best regular season winning percentage in league history, and have the 4th best postseason winning percentage in league history. For all the things some might say they aren't, history says that the Spurs are genuinely among the very best franchises over the history of the NBA.
Saying things like "back to normalcy" completely misstates history.
In truth, unless there is another rash of injuries like 1996-97 and the Spurs again come up lucky in the lottery, there will undoubtedly be some bad times ahead when Duncan retires and the Spurs will have to rebuild. But it's going to take a Clipper-like stretch of futility to undo the Spurs historical successes.
You honetly think the FO would trade Manu to help build a team around Tony? Thats just stupid.
Actually, I think Manu would pretty much be a terrible trade bait. Given how relatively low his salary is, there's very little chance that you could get value-for-value in dealing Manu. The only way that you could would require picking up a rising star, but then you're making the other team (in most cases) give up both a young star and some filler to pick up a guy who's an All-Star but not a franchise player and who is probably older in basketball years than his chronological age.
On top of that, in trading Manu, the Spurs would basically be throwing in the towel for the immediate future.
Just make the team younger and if a better deal comes along for Tony, it.Later Tony. Tim's the only one that you can't trade.
Trading Tony has the same problem as trading Manu -- Tony doesn't make enough to get a great established player and makes too much to get a rising star.
Norather have a guy thats been in the league between 3 to 5years.
To undo all the records, yes.
But I say all you have to do is look at the Celtics and Bulls to see how bad it could get without necessarily moving them down the all-time rankings.
You might as well wait until 2010 when Manu comes off the books and is a Free agent because your probably not going to get anything worth it. By then you could aim for some big free agentsManu would be perfect as trade bait(package deal).
manu will get his number retired and be a spur forever.
When Tim retires, I may cry! Seriously, we will realize just how privileged we have been to witness such a great, classy player. I hope he stays with the Spurs in some capacity as long as possible.
When I was a kid, I thought no one could ever represent the Spurs like the Iceman George Gervin. Then along came David Robinson who equaled Gervin in my eyes. Tim surpasses both as the greatest Spur of all time.
I guess we can just wait for the next great Spur to come along when Tim retires. Hopefully, we won't turn into the Hawks or Clippers. I don't think we will though, the Spurs organization is a winning organization who will find a way to rebuild.
We will all cry. It's okay to admit it.
take your chill pill, dude. just because i pointed out an error (or was it an error?) in your statement doesn't mean you have to go to the deep end.
but really, why mention mahimmi with duncan in your statement other than to say he's the spurs' next cornerstone? really stupid statement. really.
not gonna happen. most likely manu will retire alongside timmy or maybe a year earlier. he's frantic style doesn't exactly lend to longevity. he'll retire a spur.
anyway, all the spurs' FO has to do is wait til duncan's contract extension kicks (2010?) and trade or lure a high profile free agent in. 2009 won't be a good year for the spurs but lets hope splitter and mahinmi will be enough of a good fit to let the team have a good run. its in 2010 when the FO will be making its big moves. and if they play their cards right, post-duncan spurs will be bright indeed.
Last edited by m33p0; 01-22-2008 at 01:04 AM.
We shoulnt be talking about him retiring yet.. he still has a good five years ahead of him... Spurs just need to continue surrounding him with efficient talent so they can stay le contenders.
Yea I'm sorry for overreacting but I was a little pissed, the only reason I even wrote about mahinmi was because he's the only player I heard so far of you guys getting in the future, I didn't say he was going to become your franchise cornerstone.take your chill pill, dude. just because i pointed out an error (or was it an error?) in your statement doesn't mean you have to go to the deep end.
but really, why mention mahimmi with duncan in your statement other than to say he's the spurs' next cornerstone? really stupid statement. really.
What happens?
We pray for another magical #1 draft pick to save our sorry @sses.
I don't think people really appreciate how lucky it is two draft a franchise big man with the #1 pick.
Twice.
Not only do you need the #1 pick.
You need the player to not be a stiff.
Well, on a lighter note, at least the Spurs fans who attended univerisities lacking a compe ive basketball program will have a newfound interest in big time collegiate ball...the Spurs will be likely jockeying for some lottery talent once he retires. It'll make watching college games fun for said fans on Saturdays.
I have read some of the posts in this thread and make no mistake that Ginobili and Parker are very good players, but they owe a lot to the presence of Duncan.
And by no means do you build a team around either of them.
It would be smart to look at a trade of Ginobili after Duncan retires for an up-and-coming player, because by that time Manu will be older and his style of play wears on one's body. He can only play at his level for about 3-5 more seasons.
Once Duncan is gone it will take some losing and lean times to have a chance at a top lottery franchise player. The spurs don't have the front office to turn a weak franchise around by front office moves (trades and free agency).
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