Swingmen That I Wish We Still Had Now

[ChumpDumper]

Not really because like I've said before after Jackson's season in Atlanta and Hedo's poor playoff performance there was absolutely nothing stopping the Spurs from giving Stephen Jackson the midlevel exception money that they gave to Barry. For some crazy reason the Spurs thought Barry would be better.

Also, I'm not sure if this is true, but at the time over at SR I remember reading someone saying that Tim Duncan called up S-Jax after the playoffs and told him "I want you back on the team". I think the Spurs would have had a real good chance at getting him back if they were willing to pay him. If he said no then fair enough, but I'm not sure the Spurs even tried or if he was even in the plans at that point?

How is this not a wouldashouldacoulda post?

[timvp]

Archivist saves and squirrels away each and every discussion forum message....

First of all, weren't you the one just yesterday quoting Kori after a Barry game from four years ago?

Second of all, how am I going to forget my "DO NOT SIGN RASHO" thread? That was a classic.

Third of all, you copied that Flame Warrior usage from when MB called you Filibuster.

[timvp]

Oh and for the record...

Whatever you may think my stance on Rasho is or was, you're wrong.

I said Rasho was talented but that his lack of aggression was not something Pop would ever be able to fix and that would be a problem because Spurs fans wanted David Robinson for the MLE...

I was right...he is talented, Pop couldn't fix his lack of aggression, and Spursfans do still want David Robinson for the MLE...

whottt, it's not acceptable to lie in front of all the good people of SpursTalk

You were the original ploto. Check the "DO NOT SIGN RASHO" thread for proof.

[whottt]

First of all, weren't you the one just yesterday quoting Kori after a Barry game from four years ago?

Yes...I was, I didn't have the link bookmarked though.

Second of all, how am I going to forget my "DO NOT SIGN RASHO" thread? That was a classic.

Oh I didn't expect you to forget it...

Third of all, you copied that Flame Warrior usage from when MB called you Filibuster.

False...that Flame Warrior site was around long before Spurs Talk was.

[whottt]

whottt, it's not acceptable to lie in front of all the good people of SpursTalk

You were the original ploto. Check the "DO NOT SIGN RASHO" thread for proof.

Um...the alternative was Olowikandi...



Which one is still in the league?



Apology accepted.

[timvp]

Yes...I was, I didn't have the link bookmarked though.

There is this thing called the search function. You should check it out

False...that Flame Warrior site was around long before Spurs Talk was.

MB used that Filibuster caption on you long ago. You copied his idea.

[whottt]

MB used that Filibuster caption on you long ago. You copied his idea.

Link?

[timvp]

Um...the alternative was Olowikandi...



Which one is still in the league?



Apology accepted.

The options were Kandi for a short contract, Rasho for $42M over six years or Brad Miller for $50M over six years. As it turned out, Kandi sas the best option because at least he came off the books fast. Then Miller and then ya boy Rasho.

[whottt]

My first preference was Elton Brand, then Oberto...then Rasho.

And the fact you think Kandi would have been a better signing than Rasho, well, you just owned yourself worse than I ever could

[SenorSpur]

Not really because like I've said before after Jackson's season in Atlanta and Hedo's poor playoff performance there was absolutely nothing stopping the Spurs from giving Stephen Jackson the midlevel exception money that they gave to Barry. For some crazy reason the Spurs thought Barry would be better.

Also, I'm not sure if this is true, but at the time over at SR I remember reading someone saying that Tim Duncan called up S-Jax after the playoffs and told him "I want you back on the team". I think the Spurs would have had a real good chance at getting him back if they were willing to pay him. If he said no then fair enough, but I'm not sure the Spurs even tried or if he was even in the plans at that point?

Really good information. Barry has been good for us. However Jack, at roughly the same price, would have been much better.

[timvp]

Link?

Do you not know how to operate the search function?

Rasho was my third overall choice in the summer of 2003.

And you say you weren't a Rasho Sucker.

And the fact you think Kandi would have been a better signing than Rasho, well, you just owned yourself worse than I ever could

Use the search function to learn about the salary cap.

A bad player on a short contract >>>>>> A bust on a long contract

[ploto]

Who did we get back then again?

Robert Horry

[ploto]

As it turned out, Kandi was the best option because at least he came off the books fast. Then Miller and then ya boy Rasho.

You would rather currently have Brad Miller's 3 years and $34M over Rasho's 2 years and $16M. I don't think so.

[ploto]

The options were Kandi for a short contract, Rasho for $42M over six years or Brad Miller for $50M over six years.

Brad signed a seven year $68M contract. I don't think he was coming to the Spurs for that.

[timvp]

You would rather currently have Brad Miller's 3 years and $34M over Rasho's 2 years and $16M. I don't think so.

I'll let the numbers speak.

[ploto]

You were the original ploto.

Hey, do not insult ME that way!!

I won't lie. Rasho was my first choice and I grateful for every moment he spent in San Antonio.

[timvp]

Hey, do not insult ME that way!!

Apology Offered.

I won't lie. Rasho was my first choice and I grateful for every moment he spent in San Antonio.

Now if whottt could admit the same.

[ploto]

Apology Offered.

Apology accepted.

I also know that Rasho turned down an offer worth $10M more to come to San Antonio. He wanted to be here that much.

[timvp]

Apology accepted.

I also know that Rasho turned down an offer worth $10M more to come to San Antonio. He wanted to be here that much.

Yeah, I don't blame Rasho for what happened. He had the b@lls to come to San Antonio for less money even though he was going to have to fill the shoes of David Robinson. Good guy, played to win and I wouldn't mind him back as a defensive specialist once his stint in Toronto ends.

If there is blame in the situation it's the Spurs for not knowing what they were getting when they signed him. It was an obvious mistake to me at the time because I knew what the Spurs wanted and I knew Rasho wasn't the right man for the job.

[ChumpDumper]

Really good information. Barry has been good for us. However Jack, at roughly the same price, would have been much better.

And? How does that do anything for us now?

[whottt]

Now if whottt could admit the same.

Rasho was never ever ever my first choice...



That said...he played about how I expected he would, and he lost favor with Pop for the reasons I expected he would.


I still think he's talented...I still think he's not as bad as everyone said he was...and I still think he's not ever going to be A. Aggressive or B. David Robinson.



You're the one that shares Pop mindset that he can fix player's at udes...and then you rip the players to shreds when he can't...Brent.

[SequSpur]

I could've swore I was the one who started that topic...

What is funny is the tools that liked Olowakandi....

[timvp]

Rasho was my first choice...



...he played about how I expected he would, and he lost favor with Pop for the reasons I expected he would.

If everything went as expected, why the did you want him? You make no sense, Erin.

[whottt]

If everything went as expected, why the did you want him? You make no sense, Erin.

It wasn't so much that I wanted him...as it was David Robinson retired and we were going to get someone to replace David...I figured Rasho was one of the better options that offseason(he was), due to his shotblocking and his then decent offensive game, and so it wasn't big deal to me either way....because I knew we weren't replacing Drob.

I never completely liked Rasho and I never completely disliked him either...

He's a very talented player...he's also a very passive player.


That said...I'dve gladly taken him over Olo then...and I still would now...like right this instant.

I know, I know...Olo's better....because he's cheap or something like that...got it.

[ploto]

I wouldn't mind him back as a defensive specialist once his stint in Toronto ends.

From your keyboard to God's ears...