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    Elson/Barry for Kurt Thomas?
    Our defense will improve..Almost equal money...We will be missing Barry and his shooting...This trade can happen since our guy is in Seattle FO.

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    It's not so much that I'm shocked by Bruce's shooting slump, it's the fact that unlike last season his shooting slump seems to be disrupting and affecting the Spurs offense directly. Too often than not, I've seen Bruce pass on a wide open 3 pointer, attempt to drive it in the lane for a jumpshot which is not his forte and miss. I'd rather him pass the ball immediately if he's that hes ant to shoot from his fav spot. Combined with Finley's inconsistent shooting and Barry's injuries, the Spurs offense looks even more stagnant and one dimensional than I can recall in recent years.
    I disagree. Bruce has worked hard on developing that pull-up jumper off the dribble, and it has been good to him the last 2-3 years.

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    Haven't really looked. My grand total of called Spur trades stands at two-thirds.

    38-78. So you do want to reward him for the 0fer and bench Bowen for having the best +/- tonight. That's fine. Why not? Bowen was absolutely the problem tonight. It was so obvious.
    Oh fer sake, stop venting on me because I don't deserve it. And stop putting words in my mouth that I never said. That really pisses me off.

    I've been calling for Udoka to supplant Bowen since the Bobcats game and now he lays one egg and you're all over me for it. YOU CAN'T JUDGE ON ONE GAME. LOOK AT THE MONTH, as I have already said over and over and over.

    And while you're at it, make some suggestions as to what the team should do, THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD, or STFU and find someone else to take your out on.

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    Oh fer sake, stop venting on me because I don't deserve it. And stop putting words in my mouth that I never said. That really pisses me off.

    I've been calling for Udoka to supplant Bowen since the Bobcats game and now he lays one egg and you're all over me for it. YOU CAN'T JUDGE ON ONE GAME. LOOK AT THE MONTH, as I have already said over and over and over.

    And while you're at it, make some suggestions as to what the team should do, THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD, or STFU and find someone else to take your out on.
    You mad?

    I'm not venting.

    Udoka sucked tonight and Bruce should have played more. Plain and simple.

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    Trade two or three expiring contracts for a big man Pop will actually play regular minutes.
    I can't see Holt signing off on that. Who would you want that's realistically available for some combination of Elson/Barry/Finley/Horry?

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    I can't see Holt signing off on that.
    I think if there is any season in which he would sign of on such a deal, this would be it. There is a possibility of saving some money in a trade if the salaries are right, and the Spurs will be safely under the tax threshold for the next couple of seasons before the next big cap space push.
    Who would you want that's realistically available for some combination of Elson/Barry/Finley/Horry?
    Kurt Thomas' name was floated and is someone I had in mind, but I'm not terribly motivated to look at the salary lists right now.

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    So you do want to reward him for the 0fer and bench Bowen for having the best +/- tonight. That's fine. Why not? Bowen was absolutely the problem tonight. It was so obvious.
    This thread started before tonight's game and is premised on observation over the month of January, so I don't appreciate your ridicule about one game which wasn't even in the sample under study.

    As you know, usually I appreciate you, but you've been unreasonable today.

    I said Elson/Barry for Thomas, and it would work under the cap. I'd do it, but would Seattle? We might really miss Barry's shooting, so maybe Elson/Horry - that also works, but why would Seattle do it?

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    Thomas is an expiring contract too, so I don't see Seattle that intent on moving him (makes it even more puzzling as to why Phoenix would give him up this season).

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    Bowen has earned the right to play through slumps. We're not talking Barry, Finley, Bonner, or Elson here.

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    This thread started before tonight's game and is premised on observation over the month of January, so I don't appreciate your ridicule about one game which wasn't even in the sample under study.
    Pietrus was 0-5 tonight too.

    As you know, usually I appreciate you, but you've been unreasonable today.
    Probably.

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    I'm not going to read this thread because moving Bowen to the bench is foolish and an insanely bad idea. And Spurs fans proposing trades are always pipe dreams.

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    Thomas is an expiring contract too, so I don't see Seattle that intent on moving him (makes it even more puzzling as to why Phoenix would give him up this season).
    Elson/Barry/Horry/Finley are all expiring too, so it wouldn't harm their cap. If they'd take Elson/Horry, 2nd rounder and cash we should do it as a last throw of the dice...

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    Thomas is an expiring contract too, so I don't see Seattle that intent on moving him (makes it even more puzzling as to why Phoenix would give him up this season).
    Phoenix gave him up because of money, and i doubt the Sonics' ownership group would turn down some thrown-in cash to help with the move.

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    As a Spurs fan I have to say this has been one of the most aggravating months of the Spurs season. When you're used to winning as the Spurs are complacency is inevitable. Pop seems to have been taking anger management courses or the wifey has been on his case about his high blood pressure, because I have not seen the same fire in him as I did last season. This at ude that this team is a veteran team and doesn't need to be told what they are doing wrong has got to stop. A fire must be lit under these guys or making it out of the first round of the playoffs will not be the problem. I read a recent article stating that given the Spurs remaining games they have a one in four chance of making the playoffs. Now I know statistically the Spurs seem to gel during the rodeo road trip, but for some reason I just don't see them moving forward. A change is badly needed. I'm begging the Spurs organization, please sign that little mighty mouse.

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    I'm not going to read this thread because moving Bowen to the bench is foolish and an insanely bad idea. And Spurs fans proposing trades are always pipe dreams.
    Fantastic. Great contribution.

    Why don't you actually add something? Any ideas about how to stop the slide into mediocrity?

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    If they'd take Elson/Horry, 2nd rounder and cash we should do it as a last throw of the dice...
    Trade a guy that turned down the Mavericks to stay and for less money?

    Great move for future Free agents.

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    As a Spurs fan I have to say this has been one of the most aggravating months of the Spurs season. When you're used to winning as the Spurs are complacency is inevitable. Pop seems to have been taking anger management courses or the wifey has been on his case about his high blood pressure, because I have not seen the same fire in him as I did last season. This at ude that this team is a veteran team and doesn't need to be told what they are doing wrong has got to stop. A fire must be lit under these guys or making it out of the first round of the playoffs will not be the problem. I read a recent article stating that given the Spurs remaining games they have a one in four chance of making the playoffs. Now I know statistically the Spurs seem to gel during the rodeo road trip, but for some reason I just don't see them moving forward. A change is badly needed. I'm begging the Spurs organization, please sign that little mighty mouse.
    That was a Hollinger article, and it gave the Spurs a 3/4 chance of making the playoffs, 1/4 of missing them:

    "Moreover, the Spurs were projected by our Playoff Odds to have only a 75.9 percent chance of making the playoffs, compared to Utah's 94.4 percent."

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...ge=dime-080129

    Better practice those comprehension skills.

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    Trade a guy that turned down the Mavericks to stay and for less money?

    Great move for future Free agents.
    Okay, Elson/Barry or Elson/Finley then. Take your pick.

    I will always respect Rob for what he's done in the NBA, but he's done. He's a step slow and it's not just "waiting for playoff-itis".

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    Fantastic. Great contribution.

    Why don't you actually add something? Any ideas about how to stop the slide into mediocrity?
    What exactly do you want to add? I'm an observer. I can add all I want but it doesn't make it any closer to being a reality. I might as well say Start Ian and sign Jordan becasue those are about as likely to happen as your lineup "suggestions" and trade ideas.

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    I will always respect Rob for what he's done in the NBA, but he's done. He's a step slow and it's not just "waiting for playoff-itis".
    yeah just like Bruce Bowen is done.

    get out of here with that BS.


    Horry looked great last night vs the Jazz, had you watched the game without your ihatebowenhorry glasses you would see that.

    your so damn set in your bowen and horry are done you fail to see when they play well.

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    These slow annual starts by the Spurs are the equivalent of not going to class until mid-terms and then expecting to ace the rest of the semester and the Final Exam.

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    I can play pretty good. Can't dunk since I got my knee scoped, but still pretty good. Any of you paranoid fans want me to suit up and don the silver -n- black?

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    Elson/Barry/Horry/Finley are all expiring too, so it wouldn't harm their cap. If they'd take Elson/Horry, 2nd rounder and cash we should do it as a last throw of the dice...
    I wouldn't trade Rob out of loyalty, but he's clearly done. My feelings are mixed on Finley, but I'd probably trade him if something really nice came around. Barry was signed to a market value deal and one has to wonder if he'll be healthy enough to contribute at all again in a Spurs jersey, and he has the biggest contract of the expiring deals, so I would trade him in a second to improve the team. Same with Elson (just replace Barry's name with Elson and the words "be healthy enough to" with "ever" in the previous sentence).

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    yeah just like Bruce Bowen is done.

    get out of here with that BS.

    Horry looked great last night vs the Jazz, had you watched the game without your ihatebowenhorry glasses you would see that.

    your so damn set in your bowen and horry are done you fail to see when they play well.
    Yeah, I'm a noted Bowen and Horry hater, I'm well known for that...

    Horry is done. No offence to him, but he's been awful for the vast majority of the minutes he's played this season.

    Bowen is in no way done, and I NEVER SAID HE WAS, but I think he needs a change, in the short term, as does the team. If you'd bothered to read the thread you'd know that's what I said, not that "he's done".

    STFU, please.

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    Kurt Thomas would start in SA. But I don't see the Spurs taking on such a commitment.

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