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Artest is already a has been. no thanks
It's one thing to gamble sensibly... bringing a young guy like Stephen Jackson in when his old coach called him lazy on defense... trading for someone young with upside who has been a disappointment so far like Tyrus Thomas... taking on Mike Miller's contract because he can shoot the ball, and hoping his past playoff performance was an aberration since Bowen was guarding him.
Getting Artest is like taking all of your money to the roulette table and betting it on 30.
Artest is already a has been. no thanks
Okay, first of all, Artest is in his prime and puts up numbers in every offensive and defensive category.
Secondly, if we somehow traded for him, he's a free agent at the end of the year, so if he did not work out, we could let him walk.
Indiana is ancient history.
He's still insane, but it wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen. Depends on what the Kings would want in return.
Looking at it a little more closely, I believe the Kings are trying to use Artest to get some other ballast of of their books, namely Kenny Thomas. I wouldn't be terribly averse to taking on both if Artest wasn't a lock to opt out his contract at the end of the season, leaving us with only Thomas to show for the trade the next two years.
Yeah, but couldn't you look to fill the Artest void with the usual cast offs next offseason?
It would be more difficult to do so with Thomas taking up so much salary.
If Artest would agree to taking his option for next season, I wouldn't mind sending all our expiring deals to get Artest/Thomas.
Yeah, man... I know he's old, but Thomas was a tenacious rebounder in his prime.
From what I've read, Petrie is driving a hard line on Artest. I think Artest would love to come to San Antonio (Artest would love to be anywhere that he can win), but I doubt the brass would even consider it. And I wouldn't take back Thomas.
Bump...
Chad Ford on trade possibilities for the Spurs. Not sure how plugged in he is to everyday NBA happenings, but it's interesting to note Artest is in the conversation...
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...adeTalk-080218
Personally, I think a move for Artest would reek of desperation, but if it honestly makes this team better right now, I think the Spurs should consider it.
Believe it or not, Ron Artest's name has come up in San Antonio. Some believe that given the team's system, he can be controlled and would give them more toughness on the wing, where Bruce Bowen is slowing down. Bringing in Artest may sound far-fetched given the Spurs' emphasis on character and chemistry, but remember that Stephen Jackson was the starting shooting guard for one of the Spurs' recent le teams. If the need is powerful enough, San Antonio will do what it takes to win. - Chad Ford
Gee... doesn't that sound familiar?
I think I've posted, um, everything that the Boston Sports Guy just said.
Steven Jackson doesn't require medication.
God, I can't wait for 21 Feb to pass so we can get a rest from "Trade for Artest!!" until at least June.
ex, you require medication and we still believe in you.
The big Black boogie man is not gonna steal your popcorn way up in SEC 306.
Artest would do fine.
Chad Ford isn't a very good source for basketball knowledge. He's the one who wrote about 100 Darko is better than LeBron articles a few summers ago.Believe it or not, Ron Artest's name has come up in San Antonio. Some believe that given the team's system, he can be controlled and would give them more toughness on the wing, where Bruce Bowen is slowing down. Bringing in Artest may sound far-fetched given the Spurs' emphasis on character and chemistry, but remember that Stephen Jackson was the starting shooting guard for one of the Spurs' recent le teams. If the need is powerful enough, San Antonio will do what it takes to win. - Chad Ford
Gee... doesn't that sound familiar?
I think I've posted, um, everything that the Boston Sports Guy just said.
I'd be fine with an Artest trade, but GMs like Wallace and Petrie are feeling butthurt about all the negative press they got after being raped in their recent big trades, so their egos are driving up the price of Miller and Artest.
I should trust you over Chad Ford?
This looks like a thread started by Ghost VVriter.
Chad Ford is a draft guy, which is why I'm not sure if his "insider" information is credible.
But, calling him out for the Darko thing when it was over 4 years ago is pretty rediculous. He even said in a chat not too long ago that you could pretty much label Darko a bust at this point.
I'm not saying Darko is Lebron or anything close to that, but you also have to realize he's only 22 years old. I wouldn't count this kid out from being a productive player even now.
How is it ridiculous? He literally wrote Darko>LeBron every day for a whole summer. Every single article that summer was about LeBron James, the greatest highschool player since Kareem, being a bunch of hype. How could anyone ever forget that?
What does him making a bold take 4 years ago have to do with him reporting that the Spurs might look at Artest?
I think Artest has a bad rap. Sure he runs his mouth and says silly things but when he's on the court, he plays. But you guys have gotta be kididng me if you won't trade for him. The Lakers are rumored to be offering up Lamar Odom for Ron Artest, I don't think the Kings are helping the Lakers though.
And he's cheap too...he has Superstar like skills and he only costs 1/2 that much ($8 million). I can think of alot worse guys making more than $8 million.
Artest on the Spurs means you have Duncan to guard the paint and Artest to guard the perimeter. You might as well skip the WCF finals and bring on the Celtics/Spurs series.
You don't think he does a little more than that?
Hi Evan
No not really. We all know about the Detroit brawl but really, what das ly deeds has he done since then?
Heck even SJax is being heralded as the one that saved the Warriors season.
If the Nuggets,Lakers or Suns get Ron Artest, that's going to put the Spurs in a bad spot. With his $8 million salary, Ron Artest is very easy to move and you don't need to give up much if the Kings are having a fire sale. Look at what Atlanta gave up for Mike Bibby.
Last edited by Allanon; 02-18-2008 at 04:18 PM.
Amen, brotha.
I think we have the infrastructure in place to take the risk and can always let him walk at year's end.
If Kings are trading Artest, it is going to be for GOOD players with long contracts. I do not think they are looking for expiring contracts. If they are looking for expiring contracts, they can pretty much keep Artest who wants to opt out once this season end.
So it is not going to be with Spurs..
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