Why is Pau Gasol all of a sudden a bigger name now?

**sribb43** · 02-05-2008

I really like Gasols game and think he will fit great in LA but watching this NJ game, Marc Jackson is calling Gasol a great defender, so just by changing jerseys he is now a great defender. :LOL

Laker and Celtic riding is at an all time high this season, sickening

**remingtonbo2001** · 02-05-2008

Alright Jamstone..We're going to have to agree to disagree.

I've stated my case as much as I can

However, I will agree that if LA had a defender like Artest, Kobe would be a much better defender. He isn't a lockdown defender. If he was, Bowen wouldn't score 20+ on his ass. He is a fantastic help defender, but he isn't provided that situation often.

I still think you're overrating Bynum. Basketball during the playoffs is a different game.
Let's see him shut Tim Duncan down during the playoffs, since he was so capable during the regular season.

**Medvedenko** · 02-05-2008

Kobe has locked down players....it's proven. First Team all Defense honours proves it. You can have your opinion....I'll take actual NBA players, coaches and GM's make that call. Yes Bowen has had strong games versus the lakers...but when he sucks and scores less than 10 points other games does the other 2 on that team become a lock down defender. Oh, and playoffs are everything and until the Lakers make noise with this crew it's a wait and see.

**DazedAndConfused** · 02-05-2008

You're completely wrong. Kobe IS a lockdown defender when he wants to be. When he has to carry the load offensively he doesn't have the energy to go all out on defense. Bowen can because he doesn't do on offense except sit at the 3pt line. Bowen scored 20+ due to poor TEAM defense, not because of Kobe.

Please go watch the Team USA games from this summer to see how well Kobe can lock people down when he doesn't have to worry about carrying the load offensively. You clearly have not watched Kobe play or the Lakers play this year because your analysis is just flat out wrong. You're the same guy who said Gasol wouldn't have much of an impact on the Lakers when he scored 24 pts, knabbed 12 rebounds, and got 2 blocks tonight.

**Findog** · 02-05-2008

Originally Posted by z0sa

you're right, derek fisher's shot was an easier look than tim's.

too bad you can't shoot a shot in 0.4 seconds NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY.

Yes you can. .04 is enough time for a catch and shoot, it's not physically possible to do it in .03.

**ancestron** · 02-05-2008

It takes longer than .4 seconds to blink your eyes. Do the math.

As for the Lakers new acquisition...
Look for Kobe and Pau to do some serious damage in the west.

**remingtonbo2001** · 02-05-2008

Dazed and Confused....Consistency is important. If Rasheed wanted to play every game, he'd be a lock in the HOF.

You are correct in the fact that LA plays poor team defense, which is the point I've been trying to make this entire time. Thank you.

I'm done listening to anyone who thinks Gasol is one of the best PF in the game.

I shouldn't expect so much from someone with a lack of maturity.

**Medvedenko** · 02-05-2008

Originally Posted by remingtonbo2001

Dazed and Confused....Consistency is important. If Rasheed wanted to play every game, he'd be a lock in the HOF.

You are correct in the fact that LA plays poor team defense, which is the point I've been trying to make this entire time. Thank you.

I'm done listening to anyone who thinks Gasol is one of the best PF in the game.

Well, I'm glad you're done trying to make weak statements regarding the lakers D this year. Look at the record and look at the defensive stats...they speak for themselves.

Oh, name me 10 better PF's in the league right now that are playing today.

**DazedAndConfused** · 02-05-2008

Gasol is one of the best PF's in the game. His stats prove it. He is in the top 10 without question. You're just a hater and everyone here knows it.

You clearly did not watch the game. Gasol was getting easy layups, dunks, floaters, and open jumpers all game. These are shots he can hit with consistency because they are practically gimmes. It's no coincidence that he and Bynum were thriving playing alongside Kobe and co.

**remingtonbo2001** · 02-05-2008

Originally Posted by Medvedenko

Well, I'm glad you're done trying to make weak statements regarding the lakers D this year. Look at the record and look at the defensive stats...they speak for themselves.

Oh, name me 10 better PF's in the league right now that are playing today.

Hmmm...I don't know about TODAY...but in general.

Tim Duncan
Carlos Boozer
Dirk Nowitzski
Rasheed Wallace
David West
Kevin Garnett
Amare/Shawn Marion (Have your pick)
LaMarcus Aldridge (?) (TLong's got my back)
Elton Brand
Chris Bosh

I could name a few more. But to be one of the best, IMHO, you need to at least be in the top 5, not 10. Go take a look at his +/- stats. Historically, they haven't been great. DC also claimed Gasol was equally as clutch as Manu. So, I'd like to know where his Gold Medal is at, let alone an NBA championship.

**DazedAndConfused** · 02-05-2008

LaMarcus Aldrige, Shawn Marion, and David West are NOT better players than Gasol. Man you're just hating for hating sake. Even your fellow Spurs fans are calling you out dude.

**ancestron** · 02-05-2008

Gasol was not inspired in Memphis.

**remingtonbo2001** · 02-05-2008

Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

LaMarcus Aldrige, Shawn Marion, and David West are NOT better players than Gasol. Man you're just hating for hating sake. Even your fellow Spurs fans are calling you out dude.

Stop being a drama-QUEEN. (Maybe that's your thing)

I'm not hating Gasol, he is a good player. I think he will contribute to the Triangle offense. However, HE IS NOT ONE OF THE BEST POWER FOWARDS.
I think most would agree you need to at least be an All-Star or have claim to an award to truely be one of the best. Gasol doesn't have that.

**remingtonbo2001** · 02-05-2008

Originally Posted by ancestron

Gasol was not inspired in Memphis.

And you would?

**peskypesky** · 02-05-2008

Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

LaMarcus Aldrige, Shawn Marion, and David West are NOT better players than Gasol. Man you're just hating for hating sake. Even your fellow Spurs fans are calling you out dude.

Agreed. And I'd also argue that Pau is better than Rasheed. He's got better numbers, he's not a hot-head and he plays hard every night, not just when he wants to. Who would you want to coach? Rasheed or Gasol?

**sribb43** · 02-05-2008

Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

Gasol is one of the best PF's in the game. His stats prove it. He is in the top 10 without question. You're just a hater and everyone here knows it.

You clearly did not watch the game. Gasol was getting easy layups, dunks, floaters, and open jumpers all game. These are shots he can hit with consistency because they are practically gimmes. It's no coincidence that he and Bynum were thriving playing alongside Kobe and co.

I really like Gasols game but just bc he puts on a Lakers uniform doesnt make him one of the best PF's in the game..im sure you werent making this statement when he was playing for the Grizz last monday against the Mavs.. Gasol is really nice but people are making him out to be a KG type acquistion and really overated him when he was seen as a nice player up in Memphis. With that said a great move for the Lakers and clearly puts them in the le hunt with a heathly Bynum

here is a list of PF better than Gasol: (no particular order)

Dirk
Duncan
Boozer
Amare
Garnett
Bosh

**DazedAndConfused** · 02-05-2008

Originally Posted by remingtonbo2001

Stop being a drama-QUEEN. (Maybe that's your thing)

I'm not hating Gasol, he is a good player. I think he will contribute to the Triangle offense. However, HE IS NOT ONE OF THE BEST POWER FOWARDS.
I think most would agree you need to at least be an All-Star or have claim to an award to truely be one of the best. Gasol doesn't have that.

Pau Gasol = 2006 NBA All-Star.

Seriously dude, when was the last time you watched an NBA team other than the Spurs?

**peskypesky** · 02-05-2008

Originally Posted by sribb43

here is a list of PF better than Gasol: (no particular order)

Dirk
Duncan
Boozer
Amare
Garnett
Bosh

Now, asswipe, would you do us all a favor and write out the list of all the PF's who are worse than Pau Gasol? In no particular order?

**remingtonbo2001** · 02-05-2008

Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

Pau Gasol = 2006 NBA All-Star.

Seriously dude, when was the last time you watched an NBA team other than the Spurs?

Excuse me...I meant All-Star in the plural form.
But hey, one all-star appearance may do it for you.
Whatever floats your boat.

Boston-Dallas. I catch games on NBA TV, but usually don't watch more than 10 minutes.

Seriously DUDE....