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Don't get me wrong.
I understand why they are doing the trade.
It just is flawed reasoning.
True, but in the past and even this preseason, I remember him scoring fairly easily on Oberto and Elson.
Don't get me wrong.
I understand why they are doing the trade.
It just is flawed reasoning.
Good for him.True, but in the past and even this preseason, I remember him scoring fairly easily on Oberto and Elson.
Hows he gonna score from the bench after he gets in foul trouble.
Better yet if Stoudamire gets in foul trouble how does score?
The Suns better start working on their halfcourt game.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns
Report: Shaquille O'Neal could be getting traded
By TIM REYNOLDS, AP Sports Writer
MIAMI (AP) -- Shaquille O'Neal is prepared for the Miami Heat to trade him, a confidant of the 14-time All-Star center told The Associated Press on Tuesday night.
O'Neal's associate, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to reveal anything publicly, indicated a move could be imminent.
"Shaq thinks something will happen," the associate said.
The Miami Herald reported earlier Tuesday that the Heat are in "serious and ongoing" trade negotiations with the Phoenix Suns. A Heat spokesman said the team had no comment, and several Suns officials didn't immediately return phone calls from The AP.
The Herald report said the Suns would send Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks to Miami in exchange for O'Neal, who is averaging a career-low 14.2 points and has been sidelined for the past two weeks by a lingering hip injury.
When asked last week about another report that a Shaq trade was possible, Heat coach Pat Riley said, "Not true."
It isn't known if O'Neal -- who has two full seasons remaining after this one on his $100 million, five-year contract -- would welcome a trade.
A four-time NBA champion, O'Neal entered this season talking about how he wanted to win at least one more le, saying his "legacy" wouldn't be complete unless he left the game with at least five rings.
If he's going to get No. 5 this year, he'd have to go elsewhere.
The Heat have lost 19 of their last 20 games and have the NBA's worst record at 9-37 -- meaning the 2006 NBA champions are almost a lock to miss the postseason. Phoenix, meanwhile, entered Tuesday with a 1 1/2 -game lead over New Orleans and Dallas in the race for the best record in the Western Conference.
To this point, O'Neal's year has been largely forgettable.
Miami's record has plummeted, O'Neal is going through a divorce and his scoring average is nearly 11 1/2 points below his 25.6 career mark. He suffered a bruised hip on Dec. 22 and has missed four of the past five weeks while trying to recover.
The team said he was undergoing another MRI exam on Tuesday, presumably to further determine the extent of the injury, and O'Neal didn't speak before leaving Miami's practice. The Heat play at Detroit on Wednesday.
Last Friday, O'Neal said he and Riley have not discussed any trade possibilities.
"He hasn't spoken to me," O'Neal said at the time. "He hasn't talked about it. I've been in the league 15 years. I've seen it all, been through it all. I've just got to sit back."
Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said on his weekly radio show Tuesday night that the story caught him by surprise.
"The trade deadline's coming up so I'm sure there's talk all over the place," he said. "In our day and age now, you make one of those phone calls or answer a phone call everybody in the world knows about it. Other than normal business, I don't know anything that's going on."
Asked if any deal was close, D'Antoni said "No, no, no."
Marion asked to be traded before the season began but has avoided talk of the subject since then. He is set to make $17 million next season, the final year of his contract, but can opt out of the deal and become a free agent.
Suns owner Robert Sarver said two weeks ago that none of the core players would be traded this season.
Neither Sarver nor Phoenix general manager Steve Kerr returned messages left on their cell phones.
AP sports writer Bob Baum in Phoenix contributed to this report.
Take away the running game--and Marion was a big part of that--and you have what? A half-court team that can't play defense. The Suns only hope was in out scoring teams, much like Doug Moe's old Denver teams.
Fun to watch but it didn't work then either.
The only flawed reasoning is on your part....
It fills the Suns biggest need.
Marion puts up the most meaningless stats in NBA history, and he is a perennial playoff no show.
Shaq OTOH, is a 3 time finals MVP who dunks on people...something Steve Nash will make it that much easier for him to do.
Yeah Shaq might get hurt...but if he isn't hurt...it's a problem.
It's not like we can put Bowen on him and take him out of the game...like we do with Marion.
And I don't care if he's not what he once was...he'll be playing alongside two ing unguardable players in Nash and Amare.
Marion is also the only player who could stay in front of Parker.
Who will guard Parker now?
When the did he get unguardable?two ing unguardable players in Nash
Bowen can't guard him?
Phoenix will need to get a new coach.
Not anymore.Shaq OTOH, is a 3 time finals MVP who dunks on people
When the did he get unguardable?
Bowen can't guard him?
Um...Steve Nash could have you and me in his starting 5 and he'd still make a game of it against the Spurs. You don't realize how good this guy is offensively.
Are you kidding me here? Shaq has nothing, i say again nothing left. He has no lift anymore, almost zero athletic ability, he can't play good D anymore, is just an above average rebounder these days. If you play him more than 25 min a night, he will be injured and sometimes you can't even push him that much. How does he fit into the Suns style of play?? He is not a force out there at all anymore. What are they going to do, line him up against Timmy and foul out in 10 min or get owned on the block??? He can't guard anyone anymore. This does nothing for the Suns, keeping Marion is far and away the better choice for them. i hate Marion but i know he is a very good player, who is versatile, Shaq is finished. I pray the Suns do that deal.
And neither is Marion...in fact Marion never was.
He still dunks on people, and he would finally give the SUns a guy who can get other teams bigs in constant foul trouble.
Just keep telling yourself that....
Can't do that sitting from the bench fromHe still dunks on people, and he would finally give the SUns a guy who can get other teams bigs in constant foul trouble.
A injury
B being in foul trouble himself
He was the only guy to guard Tony parker well.And neither is Marion...in fact Marion never was.
You haven't answered who gonna guard Parker now.
Nash?
Bring it on.
Shaq couldn't handle the small workload he was getting in Miami.
Now all of a sudden hes gonna go back to 30 mins a night running up and down constantly with the Suns ??!?!
LOL at people thinking defense is going to be a requirement for Shaq playing on the Suns...
you guys don't have a whole lot synapses firing do you?
He was the only guy to guard Tony parker well.
You haven't answered who gonna guard Parker now.
Nash?
Bring it on.
And who's going to guard Shaq, and Amare, and Nash, and Diaw, and Grant Hill?
Shaq is still more dominant than Marion is...Marion is, not dominant at all, in any way shape or form.
ESPN just reported that Marion says he is all for leaving and this deal very much could go through
I can tell you right now Shaq will start playing better because Nash is going to get him the ball....which is what he wants. And for the first time in many years...he'll actually be getting the ball from someone who is setting him up to score.
And no more Amare playing center wouldnt be a bad thing for the Suns either
please let this happen!
shaq is done. and marion is the best player on the sons.
Wow, Suns are dumber than I thought if they do this trade...listening to ESPN just now, looks like it's very close to happening.
I thought this proposed deal was like a joke or something at first. This may be dumber than the Grizz trading Gasol to the Lakers. Suns do realize Shaq is done...they expect him to make them better defensively?? Since when is Shaq a defensive presence?
Thats the counter?
WHOS GONNA GUARD SHAQ?
First off, you bring back the hack a shaq as he can't hit for free throws.
You run his ass ragged and him over on the pick and rolls.
Big in deal.
Any team that plays big as opposed to SMALL, is a play into the hands of the SPurs.
How many friggen times must it be said?
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