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    Yeah not enough though.

    That sucks the big one that Hillary got California....

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    Fox News is projecting Obama to win Alaska.

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    Alaska for Obama!

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    Missouri for Obama - per CNN

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    Is Alaska as big for the Democrats as it is for Republicans?

    13 delegates up for grabs for Repugs there.

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    Although TX, and OH are yet to come, the superdelegates loom larger than ever when the pledged delegates are so closely divided.

    Here's BHO already warning the superdelegates about overriding the pledged delegates to nominate Hillary:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...l_n_85339.html

    ie, the primary/caucus pledged delegate hoopla and battle could be totally meaningless, sorta like the 2000 election all over again, the power structure ins utions overriding the sovereign will of The People.

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    Although TX, and OH are yet to come, the superdelegates loom larger than ever when the pledged delegates are so closely divided.

    Here's BHO already warning the superdelegates about overriding the pledged delegates to nominate Hillary:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...l_n_85339.html

    ie, the primary/caucus pledged delegate hoopla and battle could be totally meaningless, sorta like the 2000 election all over again, the power structure ins utions overriding the sovereign will of The People.
    If the superdelegates were to go against the will of their cons uencies and hand Hillary the nomination, there would be a revolt in the Democratic Party and McCain would waltz into the presidency.

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    Plus the Repugs would love nothing better than Hillary vs McCain, which I think would go to McCain.

    The insane anti-Hillary hate and slime would be magnificent, while the Clinton machine wouldn't go down without a lot of Rove-ian nastiness of its own.

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    Plus the Repugs would love nothing better than Hillary vs McCain, which I think would go to McCain.

    The insane anti-Hillary hate and slime would be magnificent, while the Clinton machine wouldn't go down without a lot of Rove-ian nastiness of its own.
    You're probably right, if Hillary wins the nomination, it's going to be ing John McCain, and we'll be in Iraq for 100 more years!

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    I am to politics what Mavfan is to basketball knowledge, how's Barack doing and is the outlook good for winning the nomination?

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    I am to politics what Mavfan is to basketball knowledge, how's Barack doing and is the outlook good for winning the nomination?
    ...basically, he's doing OK, but a lot of people are hoping that the nomination decision isn't left to the Super Delegates in the Demo. Convention...the fact Obama can win in the South is the good news from Super Tuesday...but can he turn Hispanics for him in the SW will be I think the toughest road-block Obama faces now to win a nomination......Hispanics may go for Clinton.....

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    Plus the Repugs would love nothing better than Hillary vs McCain, which I think would go to McCain.
    You know, my initial though was that McCain would be the sure winner against any of the democrats. However, I think I was wrong. Sure, McCain will get more democrat and moderate voters than someone more conservative, but many conservatives will turn around and not vote, not being able to live with themselves if they vote for McCain!

    As I think more about it, I think the democrats will win over him!

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    McCain versus Hillary would be interesting....but McCain versus Obama ...would be Obama.....

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    Thanks Nbadan. I guess I'll just keep my eyes and ears open for new info and be sure to vote on or before March 4th.

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    Clinton would alienate a large chunk of anti-corporate, anti-globalism, pro-populist Progressives that basically shake and move the Demo party today...so the question would become, who would alienate less of their own party.....

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    ..as it is now, Clinton is going to win TX, Nevada could go either way..but California, Arizona, New Mexico, and even Oklahoma all went Clinton...that's the Hispanic vote, but the good news is that a lot of mid-Atlantic states haven't had their primaries yet and Obama has done well in the region, including wins in Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri...New York was a though loss, but it went 56-42 Clinton, so Obama didn't really have a chance..

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    I think it is going to be up to the super delegates. If they see the swing towards Obama they just may throw their support towards him. There are States he won't win but if he can keep the delegate count close he just may be able to convince enough super delegates to win the nomination.

    YES WE CAN!!

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    http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard/?d=ST

    according to the polls obama is up by 30 percentage points in texas

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    http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard/?d=ST

    according to the polls obama is up by 30 percentage points in texas
    That's not a real poll; that's just "Yahoo buzz." Internet polls do not reflect the electorate at large. Obama is going to have a tough time in Texas, what with Latinos in other states voting Clinton at a 60%-70% clip. Fortunately for him, I don't think Texas is a winner-take-all-state.

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    You know, my initial though was that McCain would be the sure winner against any of the democrats. However, I think I was wrong. Sure, McCain will get more democrat and moderate voters than someone more conservative, but many conservatives will turn around and not vote, not being able to live with themselves if they vote for McCain!

    As I think more about it, I think the democrats will win over him!
    Then these conservatives you speak of are exactly as closed-minded, knee-jerk and foolish as their critics have claimed them to be. Bravo.

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    That's not a real poll; that's just "Yahoo buzz." Internet polls do not reflect the electorate at large. Obama is going to have a tough time in Texas, what with Latinos in other states voting Clinton at a 60%-70% clip. Fortunately for him, I don't think Texas is a winner-take-all-state.
    Are you suprised that the media doesn't discuss this trend: Latino v Black?

    Blacks vote for Obama at a > 80% clip; Latino's for Hillary at a >70%; whites split nearly evenly. Who are the racists, again?

    What does that portend for the future of the Democrat party?

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    Are you suprised that the media doesn't discuss this trend: Latino v Black?

    Blacks vote for Obama at a > 80% clip; Latino's for Hillary at a >70%; whites split nearly evenly. Who are the racists, again?

    What does that portend for the future of the Democrat party?
    I have read some stories about the Latino vs. black thing in the media. The conclusion: over a population, Latino enmity for blacks is more severe than what you find in the Deep South.

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    I have read some stories about the Latino vs. black thing in the media. The conclusion: over a population, Latino enmity for blacks is more severe than what you find in the Deep South.
    If this doesn't change, and with the rapid growth of Latino political muscle, are blacks going to go the way of the Unions in the Democratic party. I think Hillary might be starting the trend.

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    The future of the Democratic Party is NOW!!
    There are Latino's 4 Obama groups spreading across the Country.
    But yeah, there is a bridge that must be crossed between Hispanic and African-Americans voters.
    But the older Hispanics have a deep connection with the Clintons where as the younger generation is supporting Obama in higher percentages.

    SI SE PUEDE!!!

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    I have read some stories about the Latino vs. black thing in the media. The conclusion: over a population, Latino enmity for blacks is more severe than what you find in the Deep South.
    Thereby ensuring that race continues to dominate our politics even though it doesn't really matter that much at the personal level any more. We've come full circle. Well, actually a half-circle.

    I know I'm looking forward to a couple of decades' worth of ing about which racial or ethnic group has suffered more historically.

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