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    i'd like Manu to replace Kobe, then refuse to play. (which is what Duncan should do)

    and the only thing the Spurs players are required to do is this: win the championship.

    not playing the ASG, Dunk or 3-point shootout. Not even having the 1st seed. Just win the championship.

    They are not required to entertain us. Just bring that trophy home.

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    Torn ligament in his finger?

    Wow.

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    The league (Stern) picks the injury replacements. I think Tony was picked as an injury replacement one of his two ASGs.
    Coaches' pick both times, IIRC.

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    You're stupid for doubting Kobe. You clearly have no idea who this man is and what he is capable of on the court. Hasn't history shown you anything? This guy has played with far worse bangs and bruises in his career, a pinky injury isn't going to keep him down no matter how much you want him to be.

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    Coaches' pick both times, IIRC.
    They changed the rules?

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    They changed the rules?
    I definitely remember Parker was selected by the coaches as an reserve in 2006.

    My memory's a little fuzzier on last year's lineup, but checking the roster for the 2007 game, Ray Allen, Carmelo Anthony, Josh Howard, and Mehmet Okur were the West's injury replacements that Stern selected. So that means Parker was selected again by the coaches as a reserve.

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    Is Kobe that stupid? He has a torn ligament and he wants to play in a stupid show boat game? Good thinking Kobe!!!!
    It's not up to Kobe. He needs clearance from the NBA to miss the game.

    And Kobe should just pull a Ronnie Lott and lop that damn pinkie off. He'd quickly become my favorite player in the league if he did that.

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    "That’s what brings us back to the All-Star game. Stern described it as the NBA’s "Super Bowl."

    http://www.blackvoices.com/newsmain/...pears/20050301

    Stern takes the All-Star Weekend, seriously. It's the one time a year they can really showoff to their corporate sponsors.

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    And love him or hate him but Kobe is pretty much the most popular basketball player in the NBA and by far draws the biggest crowds wherever he goes. No other player in the NBA regularly hears MVP chants during away games.

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    And love him or hate him but Kobe is pretty much the most popular basketball player in the NBA and by far draws the biggest crowds wherever he goes. No other player in the NBA regularly hears MVP chants during away games.
    Relax, I know who he is, but if he has a torn ligament and wants to play... cross your fingers.

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    Relax, I know who he is, but if he has a torn ligament and wants to play... cross your fingers.
    Few players are really 100% come playoff time. Kobe is one of the few that actually elevates his game when injured or sick. We've been talking about this injury a lot on the Laker forums and from guys who've had 1st hand experience with this kind of pinkie dislocation they say it is definitely something you can play through without having surgery. The pain and swelling are the two biggest problems, but apparently those go away after a few weeks. With Kobe's top notch medical team he should be fine.

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    He can sprain his ankles during play with his daughter. All in all he would not be having tapes on ankles right?
    In every situation he can sprain an ankle. The possibility is probaby the same
    Let him not play till playoffs?
    Bad analogy. That would be a freak accident. What TPark said is a legit concern because when you play when you don't 'have' to, you're just courting disaster.

    Bottomline is, the ASG is for marketing. It's great for the fans, it's great for a player's resume, but it's just entertainment. It brings nothing to the long term success of a team.

    And here's Manu's All-Star Blog back in 2005: http://www.nba.com/spurs/minuto/allstar05_blog.html

    As someone has mentioned, it's not just the game but all the media events and whatnots for the All-Star weekend.

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    Few players are really 100% come playoff time. Kobe is one of the few that actually elevates his game when injured or sick. We've been talking about this injury a lot on the Laker forums and from guys who've had 1st hand experience with this kind of pinkie dislocation they say it is definitely something you can play through without having surgery. The pain and swelling are the two biggest problems, but apparently those go away after a few weeks. With Kobe's top notch medical team he should be fine.
    the only reason I want Kobe to sit for the All-Star game is so that maybe Manu will get to play. If Manu isn't selected as the replacement and then it doesn't matter to me.

    Also, a torn ligament in Kobe's pinky is going to be tough. He's an awesome player, healthy or hurt, but I would bet his shooting percentages are going to suffer if he doesn't get healthy. If not, then the guy is not human and joins Allen Iverson as one of two alien types when it comes to injuries.

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    You're stupid for doubting Kobe. You clearly have no idea who this man is and what he is capable of on the court. Hasn't history shown you anything? This guy has played with far worse bangs and bruises in his career, a pinky injury isn't going to keep him down no matter how much you want him to be.

    Oh Kobe the warrior and Kobe the this and that, Kobe has missed sign time the last few years. Kobe is a media drama queen and he will play this for all he can but the fact is he is injured and does not need the AS as head to head LeBron for one has already showed he can outplay him when it counts! Kobe should sit out for the good of your Lakers, who are an improved team but not nearly as much as the dumb media thinks, that looks at stats vs. defensive softness in the Gasol pickup.

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    Oh Kobe the warrior and Kobe the this and that, Kobe has missed sign time the last few years. Kobe is a media drama queen and he will play this for all he can but the fact is he is injured and does not need the AS as head to head LeBron for one has already showed he can outplay him when it counts! Kobe should sit out for the good of your Lakers, who are an improved team but not nearly as much as the dumb media thinks, that looks at stats vs. defensive softness in the Gasol pickup.
    Thanks for your assessment...yes Kobe should take a few weeks off if he's really hurt. However, if you look at the standings and knowing we are going to get 2 defensive players back in a few weeks, you still make dumb comments. Prior to Bynum's injury we led the West in point diff...actually we still lead the west. We are also a lot better defensive team than people give us credit for. Oh, and the Gasol pick up is huge and if you can't see it, than too bad because it really doesn't matter what you or I think.

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    It is not the game itself only. It is traveling, media etc.
    ata, who are the guys in your sig? I'm assuming that the defender is Milic, but who is the other?

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    I definitely remember Parker was selected by the coaches as an reserve in 2006.
    100% correct...

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    Bad analogy. That would be a freak accident. What TPark said is a legit concern because when you play when you don't 'have' to, you're just courting disaster.
    And when players play and sprain ankles it's not an accident right?

    may happen everywhere.

    I never heard of players that did not want to play because they are afraid to get injured.

    btw. I don't want to look up into the history of the ASG, but how many players were injured during all those games?

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    You're stupid for doubting Kobe. You clearly have no idea who this man is and what he is capable of on the court. Hasn't history shown you anything? This guy has played with far worse bangs and bruises in his career, a pinky injury isn't going to keep him down no matter how much you want him to be.
    There's no doubt that guy can play and has heart, at all! But many of us think that is bad for him to play this game (that means basicaly nothing) and to take a risk for a more serious injury. Although I don't know how serious or bad the injury is.

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    The league is making him play. Sorry Spurs fans and Manu fans. I would rather Kobe sit out but if he doesn't play he'll be suspended one game.

    The Lakers revealed the truth in a severe and alarming fashion to facilitate Bryant's exclusion from All-Star Weekend activities. The severity of his injury is accurate but as the team just finished a lengthy nine-game road trip, they would very much like to see him completely inactive until after the break.

    Since Bryant didn't miss any games and isn't expected to going forward (assuming he can continue to adjust to the injury), the NBA isn't willing to give Bryant an All-Star pass - although he was replaced by Dirk Nowitzki in the three-point shooting contest. Sitting out the event would result in at least a one-game suspension for Bryant so the show will go on.

    Of course LA has the benefit of former-Laker and New Orleans Hornets Head Coach Byron Scott in charge of the West's squad. He'll honor Bryant's request for limited minutes. Bryant and Scott are very tight dating back to Bryant's rookie season when they were teammates.
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    The Lakers are trying to make a plea for Kobe to sit out, but the league doesn't want to do to screw up the business/ratings of the AS event. That's just the way it goes when you're one of the faces of the NBA.


    I don't understand why Stern likes to champion the AS celebration. It used to be televised on NBC, on national t.v. now it's been regulated to cable for the past decade.

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    The league is making him play. Sorry Spurs fans and Manu fans. I would rather Kobe sit out but if he doesn't play he'll be suspended one game.


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    Then give him some token minutes at the start and sit him the rest of the game. Minimizes injury risk, and Stern gets his wish.

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    Then give him some token minutes at the start and sit him the rest of the game. Minimizes injury risk, and Stern gets his wish.
    Right but Manu doesn't get to play. If he didn't play at all Manu gets to play. That would be better for you guys.

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    Right but Manu doesn't get to play. If he didn't play at all Manu gets to play. That would be better for you guys.
    Nah, I'd rather have Ginobili not be on the All-Star team at all. If only due to the extended minutes he's been playing lately.

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    that....spurs fans saying they don't want Manu to be a part of the all-star game. Bull I say.

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