2008 Free Agents...Take Your Pick!

[timvp]

Hey TiMVP, we are going to need another PG next season. We have Vaughn and Parker. Do you say bring in another old vet (eg. Cassel), bring Stoudamire back, go rookie (ie. draft or Dleague, Darius?), or spend to get a prime age back-up guard (eg. Duhon)?

Cheapest option available. If Vaughn is still on board, either find another minimum paid veteran (a la Stoudamire[maybe even Stoudamire himself]) or a young point guard prospect.

Whoever they bring in, I want the player paid the minimum unless Parker's health comes into question. MLE and even LLE type money should be spent elsewhere.

[pad300]

Cheapest option available. If Vaughn is still on board, either find another minimum paid veteran (a la Stoudamire[maybe even Stoudamire himself]) or a young point guard prospect.

Whoever they bring in, I want the player paid the minimum unless Parker's health comes into question. MLE and even LLE type money should be spent elsewhere.

Alright, a few more questions. Given a PG at the Vet Min or Rookie contract. We will also need at least 1 more big. Given we will have 2 near rookies (Splitter, Mahinmi) I assume we will be looking for a veteran. A) How much are you willing to spend - up to the full MLE? B) Which targets and how much. Eg. Diop (DAL , currently) for the full MLE, then Turiaf(LAL) for 2.5 Million, Brandon Bass (DAL) 2.5 Million, then Justin Williams (SAC) LLE...


Also, is are there any players you make a run at just to spoke the wheels of our rivals. Eg. Ariza (LAL), Turiaf (LAL), JR Smith (DEN), Hermann (DET), Posey (BOS), Diop (DAL,currently), Bass (DAL, Currently), James Jones (POR)

[ss1986v2]

espn has led some of yall astray. moon wont be available this summer. he has a second year on his current deal that is partially unguaranteed. so its essentially a team option (raptors can choose to either keep him on at his salary, which is about 770k , or waive him and only pay a small portion/nothing). shamsports, patricia bender, storytellers, and even hoopshype back this up.

as for this summer, my targets have been, and continue to be carlos delfino, james jones, and kelenna azubuike. delfino has his issues; hes restricted, a streaky shooter, and a bit of a chucker. jones is having his best year during a contract year, which should always raise some flags. and buike cant get solid PT on the warriors, so its hard to judge him.

[Axl Van Dam]

Key: ETO = Early Termination Option; P = Player Option; T = Team Option; '07 QO's = BOLD

Atlanta Hawks

Restricted: Josh Childress, Josh Smith, Salim Stoudamire, Mario West

Unrestricted: Anthony Johnson, Tyronn Lue, Lorenzen Wright

Limited Salary Protection: None




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Boston Celtics

Restricted: Tony Allen

Unrestricted: Eddie House, Scot Pollard, James Posey (P)

Limited Salary Protection: Leon Powe



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Charlotte Bobcats

Restricted: Jermareo Davidson (T), Ryan Hollins, Emeka Okafor

Unrestricted: Derek Anderson, Earl Boykins, Ot a Harrington (T), Jeff McInnis

Limited Salary Protection: None


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Chicago Bulls

Restricted: Luol Deng, Demetris Nichols, Ben Gordon

Unrestricted: Chris Duhon

Limited Salary Protection: JamesOn Curry, Adrian Griffin


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Cleveland Cavaliers

Restricted: Daniel Gibson, Dwayne Jones

Unrestricted: Devin Brown, Shannon Brown, Ira Newble

Limited Salary Protection: None


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Dallas Mavericks

Restricted: Jose Juan Barea

Unrestricted: DeSagana Diop, Devean George, Eddie Jones (P), Juwan Howard

Limited Salary Protection: Brandon Bass


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Denver Nuggets

Restricted: Yakhouba Diawara, J.R. Smith, Von Wafer

Unrestricted: Anthony Carter, Allen Iverson (ETO), Eduardo Najera

Limited Salary Protection: None


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Detroit Pistons

Restricted: Alex Acker, Walter Herrmann

Unrestricted: Primoz Brezec, Jarvis Hayes, Lindsey Hunter, Flip Murray

Limited Salary Protection: None


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Golden State Warriors

Restricted: Kelenna Azubuike (P), Andris Biedrins, Monta Ellis, C.J. Watson

Unrestricted: Matt Barnes, Austin Croshere, Baron Davis (ETO), Patrick O'Bryant, Mickael Pietrus, Chris Webber

Limited Salary Protection: None


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Houston Rockets

Restricted: Carl Landry, Steve Novak (T), Kirk Snyder

Unrestricted: Steve Francis (P), Dikembe Mutombo, Bonzi Wells

Limited Salary Protection: None


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Indiana Pacers

Restricted: Stephen Graham (T), David Harrison, Andre Owens

Unrestricted: Jermaine O'Neal (ETO), Kareem Rush

Limited Salary Protection: None


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Los Angeles Clippers

Restricted: Paul Davis, Shaun Livingston

Unrestricted: Elton Brand (ETO), Sam Cassell, Dan au, Corey Maggette (ETO), Quinton Ross, Aaron Williams

Limited Salary Protection: Josh Powell


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Los Angeles Lakers


Restricted: Ronny Turiaf, Sasha Vujacic

Unrestricted: Trevor Ariza (P), Chris Mihm (P)

Limited Salary Protection: Coby Karl


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Memphis Grizzlies


Restricted: Andre Brown, Juan Carlos Navarro

Unrestricted: Kwame Brown, Casey Jacobsen

Limited Salary Protection: None


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Miami Heat

Restricted: Chris Quinn, Dorell Wright

Unrestricted: Earl Barron, Ricky Davis, Shawn Marion (ETO), Alonzo Mourning, Smush Parker (P), Jason Williams

Limited Salary Protection: Joel Anthony, Alexander Johnson


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Milwaukee Bucks

Restricted: Ersan Ilyasova, David Noel, Awvee Storey (T)

Unrestricted: Royal Ivey, Michael Ruffin, Jake Voskuhl

Limited Salary Protection: Ramon Sessions


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Minnesota Timberwolves

Restricted: Ryan Gomes, Craig Smith, Chris Richard, Sebastian Telfair

Unrestricted: Michael Doleac, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff

Limited Salary Protection: None


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New Jersey Nets



Restricted: Nenad Krstic

Unrestricted: Malik Allen, Darrell Armstrong, Jamaal Magloire, Bostjan Nachbar, Stromile Swift (P), Antoine Wright

Limited Salary Protection: None


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New Orleans Hornets

Restricted: Marcus Vinicius

Unrestricted: Ryan Bowen, Melvin Ely (P), Jannero Pargo (P)

Limited Salary Protection: Adam Haluska


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New York Knicks



Restricted: Randolph Morris

Unrestricted: Fred Jones, Stephon Marbury (ETO)

Limited Salary Protection: None


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Orlando Magic

Restricted: James Augustine

Unrestricted: Carlos Arroyo, Keith Bogans (P), Keyon Dooling, Maurice Evans, Adonal Foyle (P), Pat Garrity

Limited Salary Protection: Marcin Gortat


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Philadelphia 76ers



Restricted: Louis Amundson, Andre Iguodala, Shavlik Randolph, Louis Williams

Unrestricted: Calvin Booth (P), Kevin Ollie, Gordan Giricek

Limited Salary Protection: Herbert Hill


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Phoenix Suns



Restricted: None

Unrestricted: Grant Hill (P), Sean Marks, Eric Piatkowski, Brian Skinner

Limited Salary Protection: D.J. Strawberry


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Portland Trail Blazers



Restricted: None

Unrestricted: James Jones (P), Raef LaFrentz (ETO)

Limited Salary Protection: Taurean Green




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Sacramento Kings


Restricted: Justin Williams

Unrestricted: Ron Artest (ETO), Kenny Thomas (ETO), Beno Udrih, Dahntay Jones

Limited Salary Protection: None




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San Antonio Spurs


Restricted: None

Unrestricted: Brent Barry, Francisco Elson, Michael Finley, Robert Horry, Damon Stoudamire, Jacque Vaughn (P)

Limited Salary Protection: None


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Seattle SuperSonics


Restricted: Mickael Gelabale, Robert Swift, Delonte West

Unrestricted: Kurt Thomas

Limited Salary Protection: None


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Toronto Raptors


Restricted: Jose Calderon, Carlos Delfino

Unrestricted: Juan Dixon, Darrick Martin, Rasho Nesterovic (P)

Limited Salary Protection: Jamario Moon


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Utah Jazz



Restricted: C.J. Miles, Paul Millsap (T)

Unrestricted: Jason Hart (P)

Limited Salary Protection: None


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Washington Wizards

Restricted: None

Unrestricted: Gilbert Arenas (ETO), Antawn Jamison, Roger Mason



Is there any particular FA that catches your eye? If so, please explain.

My favorite of the listed would be Antawn Jamison. However, I think that's unlikely, as the Wizards will more than likely let Arenas go.

Antawn Jamison & Elton Brand will be awesome pick ups .

[remingtonbo2001]

I would absolutely love Hermann, however he's restricted. I think Detriot would be wise to keep him, although I don't know the situation there. Posey would be great, but depending on his ability to fit into Boston's system, I'm not sure the Spurs will be given the opportuni y to purpose an offer.

I would LOVE Turiaf. I think he would be my favorite player out of any Laker at the moment. He's physical and plays with heart. Something which LA should cherish dearly. I don't expect him to be let go of.

That being said, what is the deal with Jermain O'Neal? Are we talking slim chance, long-shot, 50/50? I know at one time he did have interest in coming to SA. Although, I would think Indy would trade him before granting an ETO. He has been Injury prone, so I'd say it would be a moderate risk. We have Mahinmi and Splitter coming in, so O'Neal could almost be viewed as a luxary.

Is this Finley's last year. I would think the more likely senerio would involve Brent retiring and Finley coming on for another season for the vet minimum.

[Matchman]

So your saying the guy doesn't work hard?

WTF did u just read?
himat said he worked his ass off but i said i dont think working hard is anything special because most of us americans work hard everyday earning way less than the average ballers

[Radiosparks]

Antawn Jamison would be a great addition.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Whoever is saying Brand and Jamison - we have the MLE, LLE and vet min to work with, so where exactly is the money coming from?

[hsxvvd]

Did I see Beno!

Hermann for sure! Spurs need to go after him hard, he's a nice Horry replacement that Bonner isn't.

[remingtonbo2001]

Hermann for sure! Spurs need to go after him hard, he's a nice Horry replacement that Bonner isn't.

+1

[timvp]

Alright, a few more questions. Given a PG at the Vet Min or Rookie contract. We will also need at least 1 more big. Given we will have 2 near rookies (Splitter, Mahinmi) I assume we will be looking for a veteran. A) How much are you willing to spend - up to the full MLE? B) Which targets and how much. Eg. Diop (DAL , currently) for the full MLE, then Turiaf(LAL) for 2.5 Million, Brandon Bass (DAL) 2.5 Million, then Justin Williams (SAC) LLE...

It's tough to put a price tag on these players at this point. For a veteran big like Najera, if he were to come for around half the MLE ... that sounds like a good buy. Kurt Thomas would be someone else to look at for around the same price. I like Turiaf but being restricted, he'd be impossible to steal. Same with Bass, although I like Turiaf better. Justin Williams would be an LLE option as long as the Spurs are satisfied by his off court issues.

A couple other cheap bigs could be Chris Mihm, Michael Doleac and Jamaal Magloire. Now that I think about it, I'd probably save the big money for trying to go after an athletic wing. One of Najera, Thomas, Mihm, Doleac or Magloire would be nice as veteran insurance and shouldn't cost too much.

Also, is are there any players you make a run at just to spoke the wheels of our rivals. Eg. Ariza (LAL), Turiaf (LAL), JR Smith (DEN), Hermann (DET), Posey (BOS), Diop (DAL,currently), Bass (DAL, Currently), James Jones (POR)

Eh, not really. The only one who might make sense to go after for an odd reason is Diop ... with the reasoning that he's shown to guard Duncan well and getting him off Dallas might be worth it. And really, one of the main reasons why the Spurs signed Horry originally was because he defended Duncan well.

Of the players in your list, I think Ariza, Turiaf, Bass and Diop will likely cost too much. JR Smith, Herrmann and Posey might be targets for the right price. I'm not too high on James Jones for the Spurs because he's a wing who plays with a low amount of energy and that usually doesn't mesh well with Pop.

[SenorSpur]

DeSagana Diop
James Jones and/or Trevor Ariza

I'm afraid Jamison would be too expensive

[genomefreak13]

I think the most doable among them are Kurt Thomas/Raef Lafrentz and James posey

Kurt thomas could provide good defense inside. His numbers in seattle are pretty decent. If he's not possible, we could settle for Lafrentz, he's also a pretty dependable defender inside. With little help we can develop him as an inside defender and a long range threat.

James posey is one of my favorite role players. He can defend very well in the perimeter and we can rely on his occasional outside shooting.

[ss1986v2]

Udoka will almost certainly opt out, a la Bowen 2002, and I allowed for rookie deals (Splitter). The "math" is spot on. Eight players, five spots to fill, MLE, LLE, mins/vetmins, rookie contracts, one trade exception ($2+M) to work with. That is your realistic scenario to work with. If you think Udoka will play for the bare minimum again and won't opt out and need to be re-signed, we can make a avatar le bet.

too bad udoka doesnt have an opt-out next year.

*edit* apparently, exstatic decided to remove his post mid repley.

[debo]

biedrins or mutumbo

[Ghost Writer]

I like these guys that shouldn't be too costly and would help us:

D. Gibson
W. Hermann
J. Moon
R. Gomes
P. Millsap
F. Jones
J. Posey

[m33p0]

He'll be 32 in June.

blame the announcers then. that's what i heard the last time they visited san antonio.

with that said, even better.

[yavozerb]

Bonzi and his rebounding will be coming up the road to SA next year...

[urunobili]

Diop, Moon, Gibson, Millsap and Posey

[m33p0]

it seems that options aren't as limited as was expected. nice.

[Ghost Writer]

Don't count on the Spurs bringing any free agent in that's under 30 or actually coveted.

[SenorSpur]

too bad udoka doesnt have an opt-out next year.

*edit* apparently, exstatic decided to remove his post mid repley.

Udoka likes it here. From all accounts the Spurs like him too. I would expect him to have a long stay in San Antonio. I'd be disappointed if he didn't.

[hsxvvd]

No free agents that could really make much of a difference, but Rasho would be nice!

Kwame Brown? Elson too on the cheap wouldn't be too bad.

Maggette would be interesting... and we do have a history we him don't we with the Barry trade rumors?

[intlspurshk]

Dream: Nenad Krstic / Ryan Gomes / Paul Millsap

Little bit more realistic: Turiaf / Diop

[Ibleedslvrnblk]

Corey Maggette or Ricky Davis are my picks...SPEND SPEND SPEND!!! GET rid of Oberto!