Not really sure why that matters. The fact that they've been trying to get him out of here for some time doesn't really have anything to do with my point.
Barry will be missed
I kinda think we gave a little too much, two players and a 1st Rounder??? just for Kurt Thomas; how much was he acquired for from Phoenix to Seattle ?
I'm sure Kurt Thomas' game against us both in the Suns series AND the Seattle loss, helped convince the Spurs FO.
Hopefully Barry can come back. That'd make this trade very nice. As is, Barry, Elson and a first is a bit much. If it turns out to be Elson and a first, then that is much easier to swallow.
But yeah, I'm starting to warm to this trade a bit just because the Spurs biggest weakness was bigman depth. If Oberto didn't recapture his postseason magic or if Oberto go injured, the Spurs were done.
Now with Oberto and Thomas, the Spurs have good muscle to go next to Duncan. Plus Thomas is one of the best post defenders of all-time. That could allow Duncan to roam a bit more.
I don't love this trade yet but it did make the Spurs deeper. And if Udoka lives up to expectations, he would have gotten Barry's minutes anyways.
Tough to digest trade but not horrible.
Ric Buecher (sp?) confirmed it on ESPN about 2 minutes ago.
When is the first game KT is likely to play?
And where the is TPark?
Weren't the Sonics going to buyout Thomas anyway? Why give up a first rounder? Otherwise, this is a solid move. Thomas will really help upfront.
Is Matt Bonner going to move, I wonder. A Bonner for Balkman deal makes a lot of sense now.
I can't believe this board hasn't lit up like a Christmas tree! The Spurs made a trade!!!
I also don't know about giving up a first rounder. He does shot the mid range jumper very well, which is always open for the big man playing along side Tim.
It's moves like this that make SAS perennial le contenders. Nobody in the media will look at this trade as earth-shattering, but it's a great move for the Spurs. They get a guy who will fit like a glove into their system and be able to spell Duncan in the playoffs adequately. The WC just got tougher. you Spurs.
Kurt Thomas getting Elson's minutes? Sweet!!!
It would be most excellent if Brent was able to be waived by the Sonics.
yeah, i'm a little disappointed in the first rounder. I would have almost rather given up Manhinmi since I've pretty much given up on him, but oh well.
Like I said in the other thread, at least this prevents DAL or LAL from signing Thomas if he was bought out. That would have been scary.
CIA pop and buford never let anyone in the loop.
Our first round picks suck half the time if we keep them anyway.
Win now.
The opposition strategy of clogging the middle and ignoring the Spurs centers, i.e. Rasho, Nazr, Elson, Oberto, is now tougher. Thomas hits that 15 footer like a lay-up.....
Wonder if Presti tried to pry Mahinmi away.
Hope there's some protection on that pick should Duncan go down.
Kurt Thomas is a slow player. Having him will not avoid Spurs to play small ball in certain matchups.
And Spurs won't have Barry in these small ball matchups...
Spurs give up a first round pick for a trade that make them marginally better only in certain matchups. And Thomas is a short term solution.
I don't like this trade.
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Another angle to think about is that if the Spurs didn't acquire Thomas, the Sonics likely would have waived him and then a West contender such as the Suns or Mavs could have swooped him up. So not only do you get a pretty decent player, you keep him off another team. Thomas is one of the few players in the league capable of bothering Duncan in one-on-one situations.
This helps us against the Lakers, Houston and the Suns :hungry
I hope this injects the Spurs with excitement....
(I hope Barry pledges to be back in San Antonio somehow, either by retirement or whatever, he seemed to fit in so well with the team's lockerroom atmosphere. And I loved his 3-pt shooting threat)
(edit : not publicly of course, but to his Spurs friends.)
You are right about Thomas hitting open shots I remember him scoring while we closed down on nash and stupidmire
What if this were to lead to something else?
With LA and PHX going big, we needed the dependable size.
We still need the long three for when we go small. I guess the Artest deal fell through, would've liked that trade better.
Maybe they'll buyout Barry and he can resign here. Since he still hurt.
I don't think Seattle would be waiving Barry. Those sentiments are just echoes of the Stackhouse situation.
Seattle will be glad to have Barry's contract expire so they can make some moves in the offseason, but they have no reason to buy him out with 2 months left in the season.
Unless they think he'll be hurt for a lot longer.
Welcome aboard KT good luck Barry and Elson
The prognosis on Barry must not have been good for them to make this move.Kurt Thomas is a slow player. Having him will not avoid Spurs to play small ball in certain matchups.
And Spurs won't have Barry in these small ball matchups...
Spurs give up a first round pick for a trade that make them marginally better only in certain matchups. And Thomas is a short term solution.
I don't like this trade.
I have a feeling that barry was not coming back anytime soon which helped pop make this decesion..I prefer Udoka over Barry in small ball lineup anyway due to his defense, so as much as I hate to see Barry, I think this trade helps the spurs this year..Kurt Thomas is a slow player. Having him will not avoid Spurs to play small ball in certain matchups.
And Spurs won't have Barry in these small ball matchups...
Spurs give up a first round pick for a trade that make them marginally better only in certain matchups. And Thomas is a short term solution.
I don't like this trade.
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