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    Yes, but not many of those teams have the roster space or the cap space....
    You do not need cap space when you have the MLE. When Brent clears- assuming he clears- Dallas can offer him a contract worth the full MLE for a number of years if they want to even though they are already over the luxury tax threshold.

    Everone knows the Spurs will offer the minimum.

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    Yeah - thats one big reason I don't think its some slam dunk he's returning. If I'm Barry, I want more than one year on my contract coming off an injury. I'm not sure if I want more than the vet minimum or if anyone is going to throw an MLE deal at me (I really doubt anyone is desprate enough to do that) but I consider it if someone does. Thats a ton of money.

    Anyway, I know Ploto is just trolling like the annoying she is, but she's not entirely wrong.

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    I don't see any reason for the Spurs not to give Barry a two year deal if it's the minimum -- even if they end up waiving him next season. They are nowhere close to the tax threshold for 08-09.

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    I don't see any reason for the Spurs not to give Barry a two year deal if it's the minimum -- even if they end up waiving him next season. They are nowhere close to the tax threshold for 08-09.
    Seconded, as I have said in another thread. I would have NO problem with FO offering him a 3 year deal at the vet min. That would be the remainder of this year 07/08, 08/09 and 09/10. Which would line up perfectly with the 2010 plan. Even if we end up using him as a 12th man, we are not paying a lot. He's a good team/locker room guy. He's never going to forget how to shoot, and his handle/passing/BBIQ will also stay around. I suspect he would be a good mentor for any younger players we bring in. , if he asked, I'd even give him a no-trade clause on a vet min deal...

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    Barry won't go to the Mavs...I'm telling ya'll...he doesn't like Stackhouse.


    I don't think he's determined to get a multi-year contract either...he was talking about retiring after this season earlier in the year.

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    LOL Of course Spurs Fan doesn't have a problem with them offering him 2 years. Who gives a about what Spurs Fan has problems with though? Spurs Fan does not make front office decisions. The Spurs have been tight with the money before.

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    Barry won't go to the Mavs...I'm telling ya'll...he doesn't like Stackhouse.


    I don't think he's determined to get a multi-year contract either...he was talking about retiring after this season earlier in the year.
    Link please?

    As long as he's healthy why would he hang it up? He was having a great season.

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    LOL Of course Spurs Fan doesn't have a problem with them offering him 2 years. Who gives a about what Spurs Fan has problems with though? Spurs Fan does not make front office decisions. The Spurs have been tight with the money before.
    But they don't really have to be next season. They're like $15 million under the tax threshold for 08-09. The tax is the #1 reason the Spurs go cheap, and it currently just isn't an issue for next season.

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    Hmmm...it was in some article early in the season...he didn't flat out say he was retiring, but he definitely was considering it.


    As for the Stackhouse thing...just watch them when they are matched up against each other...these two dudes do not like each other. Plus they almost got into a fight in 04/05.


    As long as he's healthy why would he hang it up? He was having a great season.
    Because he's done everything he wanted to do...he said if he wasn't playing basketball he'd be on a beach somewhere surfing...I think that's what he wants to do.

    I'm not saying a big multi year deal won't change his mind...but I don't think a multi year deal for the minimum is going to be a big incentive to keep him from retiring.


    He wants to surf...

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    I guess we'll see what he really wants to do. I always figured him for a big passion of the game guy. Those guys hate to walk away.

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    I think that Spurs Have a pre-arrangement with Barry.
    Barry being waived has been announced by Ludden at the same time that the trade.
    Spurs have likely ask Sonics to waive Barry and if they have asked it, it's because they knew that they would re-sign Barry.

    For Barry, this trade will allow him to make an extra $200K without any harm. It's a win-win situation.

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    And I think we will know soon where Barry will go.
    Barry will clear waivers on Monday, after that he will be free to talk to teams. While Spurs can't sign him before 30 days, they still can talk to him and Barry can said next week that he will re-sign with Spurs.

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    If he does resign with the Spurs expect a rule change this offseason to make it where a traded player can not resign with a team for the remainder of the regular season after this and the stackhouse incident.

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    If he does resign with the Spurs expect a rule change this offseason to make it where a traded player can not resign with a team for the remainder of the regular season after this and the stackhouse incident.

    Or Trade commitees?

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    I guess we'll see what he really wants to do. I always figured him for a big passion of the game guy. Those guys hate to walk away.
    I don't think he's a big passion for the game guy...he likes it, it's in his blood. But it's pretty obvious he'd rather have a good time and showboat than play D and be locked in a grind it out struggle...it just happens he can be pretty toughminded(as evidenced by Pop not breaking him and his knack for big shots) if he has to be and was smart enough to figure out the Spurs were the best place to get a ring.


    Like he said when he came here...he just wanted to Steve Kerr it for few years...didn't say anything about Bruce Bowening it.


    If he was an intense compe or type he'd be a lot more popular with Spur fans...he mainly does the intensity thing when he's pissed off because he got hit or something.

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    Dude I don't think you realize just how popular Barry IS with fans.

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    Anyway...back to the teams...

    He doesn't like Dallas.
    Houston isn't going to win a ring.

    It'll be either the Spurs, Suns or Lakers...maybe the Celtics or someone like that...and unless someone throws a huge deal at him it'll be with a team that has a strong chance chance of winning a le.

    And barring a huge contract...he just might retire after this season.

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    Dude I don't think you realize just how popular Barry IS with fans.

    Yeah lol...he seems to be a lot more popular now....

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    Barry wasn't particularly happy when he heard he'd been traded Wednesday
    Maybe that's the reason why the guys weren't in the best frame of mind for playing yesterday. That's hardly think but maybe Brent feels the FO's guys don't respect him. He was injured playing for us and he didn't expect the trade.


    Besides, Barry can't leave. Who would Fab Oberto play guitar with?
    one reason that explain why Fab seems lost.


    BRING BARRY!

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    Anyway...back to the teams...

    He doesn't like Dallas.
    Houston isn't going to win a ring.

    It'll be either the Spurs, Suns or Lakers...maybe the Celtics or someone like that...and unless someone throws a huge deal at him it'll be with a team that has a strong chance chance of winning a le.

    And barring a huge contract...he just might retire after this season.
    he already won 2 rings. He will probably do what's best for his family. and going to LA or Phoenix might be it. or if Houston offers good $.

    I don't think he's that hungry to get one more ring anymore.

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    Yeah lol...he seems to be a lot more popular now....
    You don't know what you have until it's gone...

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    And I think we will know soon where Barry will go.
    Barry will clear waivers on Monday, after that he will be free to talk to teams. While Spurs can't sign him before 30 days, they still can talk to him and Barry can said next week that he will re-sign with Spurs.
    Bruno,
    How come not until Monday. Barry was waived on Thursday, right?
    48 hour waiver period. Do weekends not count and that is why not until monday?

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    weekends don't count

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    ^ what he said.

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    BTW, Barry clearing waivers isn't a sure thing.

    Warriors have a trade exception big enough to claim him from waivers.
    Getting Barry will cost them $1.7M and the loss of a big trade exception that could be usefull in the future.
    We will know on Monday if they are ready to give that much for Brent.

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