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    Most of the pundits repeat what they hear others say, , or might go by history. This year is anything but typical. With as tightly compacted as the conference is, the likelihood of long playoff battles is raised. Anyone that doesn't want game seven on their floor is foolish.
    I agree that ideally it's to every team's advantage to have home court advantage throughout playoffs. I think the question is: at what cost? Do you want your guys diving into the 4th row every night in February/March?My opinion is a balance of the two. But that's easier to say when your team can coast at 75% all season and still maintain a decent seed, let alone get into the playoffs. I know I'm assuming a lot, but my team is the Spurs and they're freaking talented! Reality is we don't Need home court. It's just nicer to sleep in your own bed after celebrating.

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    "Same ol' ," it sure is. What's up with these sportswriters, jumping up and down about the Lakers? Haven't they been paying attention these past few years? It's not the teams with the biggest stars that end up at the top, it's the teams with the strongest D and team-first mentality that are standing in the end. If individual star power and MVP-like stats made the difference, then it would have been teams like the Suns, Mavs, Nuggets and Timberwolves who would be hoisting up the trophies, not the Spurs and Pistons.

    Hey, the Lakers are suddenly loaded. Big deal. It's what you do with the parts that count. If, by the end of the season, I see the Lakers playing with the same kind of chemistry that the Spurs and Pistons have been playing with these past four, five years (and which, by the way, we're obviously starting to see in the Jazz), then I'll change my tune.

    Meanwhile, all this talk about Laker dominance does is remind me of all the talk about the Patriots before the last Super Bowl. To paraphrase Mike Tyson, everyone's a champion until they punched in the mouth. The NBA playoffs are not hospitable to teams with weak wills and me-me at udes. Kobe has some guts, and so does Phil Jackson (although he ain't on the floor). But until guys like Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol show me that they can play with any semblance of intensity, teamwork and D-mentality, the Lakers can't be favorites. This is not theory, it's fact. All you need do is look at the makeup of the most recent NBA champs.

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    So, if the Mavs were to meet the Spurs in the playoffs, who guards Dirk now (assuming Bowen is on Howard-- I realize sometimes he's on Dirk)?

    Elson was a scrub, and certainly no "Dirk stopper" as he was made out to be....but I'm chuckling at the prospect of KT trying to guard Dirk.

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    So, if the Mavs were to meet the Spurs in the playoffs, who guards Dirk now (assuming Bowen is on Howard-- I realize sometimes he's on Dirk)?

    Elson was a scrub, and certainly no "Dirk stopper" as he was made out to be....but I'm chuckling at the prospect of KT trying to guard Dirk.
    Oberto and KT will probably take turns in guarding Dirk. Dirk will probably have a field day though having 2 bigs will make it tougher for everyone else on Dallas.

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    So, if the Mavs were to meet the Spurs in the playoffs, who guards Dirk now (assuming Bowen is on Howard-- I realize sometimes he's on Dirk)?

    Elson was a scrub, and certainly no "Dirk stopper" as he was made out to be....but I'm chuckling at the prospect of KT trying to guard Dirk.
    I honestly think Oberto will be given the task, which is fine with me, it's not like he's going to suck at it. I think Pop shouldn't focus so much on stopping Dirk, but rather on stopping Howard, Terry, and Stackhouse.

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    So, if the Mavs were to meet the Spurs in the playoffs, who guards Dirk now (assuming Bowen is on Howard-- I realize sometimes he's on Dirk)?

    Elson was a scrub, and certainly no "Dirk stopper" as he was made out to be....but I'm chuckling at the prospect of KT trying to guard Dirk.
    Udoka and Manu take Howard, Bowen takes Dirk. It's as simple as that.


    Speaking of Kurt this guy really reminds me of a better version of Horace Grant. The guy cleans up the glass and makes the smart play at a level that is better than Horace. Kurt's ability to lock on defensively to player reminds me of what Horace did for the 2001 Lakers.

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    Who's Tim guarding again?

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    I like the Thomas trade because the Spurs got what they wanted, while only giving up two players who weren't even playing. The Suns had to give up Marion to get Shaq, so what they lost in Marion's skills (good defense and shooting) will catch up to them, since they now have a hole in their defense. Hill and Nash can't guard anybody, that leaves the Suns with one perimeter player (bell) who can defend.
    It is much better in a trade to get something you need, while not giving up anything, than to get what you need, but create another need in doing so. That is why the Spurs are smart, they chip away at their needs gradually, instead of selling the farm in desperation.

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    I honestly think Oberto will be given the task, which is fine with me, it's not like he's going to suck at it. I think Pop shouldn't focus so much on stopping Dirk, but rather on stopping Howard, Terry, and Stackhouse.
    i agree . the best "Dirk Stopper" is Dirk himself. He makes AK47 look mentally stable

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    Who's stopping Duncan, Parker, & Ginobili?

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    Bowen, Udoka, and Horry.

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    Hi-Oh!

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    Ed McMahon is the dirk stopper

    nice

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    Udoka and Manu take Howard, Bowen takes Dirk. It's as simple as that.


    Speaking of Kurt this guy really reminds me of a better version of Horace Grant. The guy cleans up the glass and makes the smart play at a level that is better than Horace. Kurt's ability to lock on defensively to player reminds me of what Horace did for the 2001 Lakers.
    Simple as that until Howard drops 30. Udoka's a nice player but he can't hang with him. And for all of Manu's offensive prowess, he would be even worse at trying to stay with Howard.

    The best solution is probably what was mentioned above. Just leave Fab on Dirk and let Bowen guard Howard as much as possible.

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    Udoka has no problem defending Lebron, so I don't think Howard is a stretch.

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    Simple as that until Howard drops 30. Udoka's a nice player but he can't hang with him. And for all of Manu's offensive prowess, he would be even worse at trying to stay with Howard.

    The best solution is probably what was mentioned above. Just leave Fab on Dirk and let Bowen guard Howard as much as possible.
    I could get by Fab. Seriously do you live in a dream world? Mav fans are almost as flaky as El Presidente Cuban

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    The best solution is probably what was mentioned above. Just leave Fab on Dirk and let Bowen guard Howard as much as possible.
    I think Dirk is a major matchup problem because Pop makes it one. He is a matchup problem for us but not to the extent into which our defense should get altered. He completely changes the way we play to matchup with Dirk and he shouldn't do that. If he would just leave one big man (Oberto) on Dirk, and try to shut down Howard and Terry, the Spurs would be good IMO. He can't go small unless the Mavs go small.

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    Dub: You should worry more about Mav's O than Spurs' D

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    Udoka's a nice player but he can't hang with him.

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    Udoka is probably the most underrated player in the nba right now. I would rather have him than just about anybody in his price/ skill set range IE- I don't think there is a better 7th man in the NBA right now that fulfills the spurs needs the way Udoka does. And I'm not kidding.

    Kurt Thomas and Udoka make this team so much tougher it's not even funny.

    I really think we are getting back to Popovich molded teams. The ones that went after players like Mario Elie and Jerome Kersey. Tough sons who can really play defense.

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    Udoka is probably the most underrated player in the nba right now. I would rather have him than just about anybody in his price/ skill set range IE- I don't think there is a better 7th man in the NBA right now that fulfills the spurs needs the way Udoka does. And I'm not kidding.

    Kurt Thomas and Udoka make this team so much tougher it's not even funny.

    I really think we are getting back to Popovich molded teams. The ones that went after players like Mario Elie and Jerome Kersey. Tough sons who can really play defense.

    Plus Thomas brings a nice offensive skill set.

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    Yeah with Thomas it would make packing the paint to stop Parker pretty tough as Duncan and Thomas can draw out the bigs.

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    Udoka is probably the most underrated player in the nba right now. I would rather have him than just about anybody in his price/ skill set range IE- I don't think there is a better 7th man in the NBA right now that fulfills the spurs needs the way Udoka does. And I'm not kidding.

    Kurt Thomas and Udoka make this team so much tougher it's not even funny.

    I really think we are getting back to Popovich molded teams. The ones that went after players like Mario Elie and Jerome Kersey. Tough sons who can really play defense.


    Here, here. Udoka is one, tough, hard-nosed player. I saw him for the first time last year in a game, coincidentally, versus the Spurs. He lit them up in the 2nd quarter, but it was his on-the-ball defense, rebounding and 2nd chance points that caught my attention. He's in the mold of a Raja Bell, and others that you've named. He's not only physically tough, but he is mentally tough too.

    You add Kurt Thomas to the mix, and I agree, this makes the Spurs vaunted team defense, all that much better.

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    Plus Thomas brings a nice offensive skill set.

    So true, oh how I freaking detested that midrange jumper when he was with the Suns. That crap pissed me off so much...because he always hit it.

    I am very much looking forward to being on the receiving end of his points.

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    So true, oh how I freaking detested that midrange jumper when he was with the Suns. That crap pissed me off so much...because he always hit it.

    I am very much looking forward to being on the receiving end of his points.

    Yeah Nash pick and rolling out to Thomas at the free throw line was a gauranteed 2 points every time.

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