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    quote from a real gm poster yesterday..(ddb)

    for what it's worth:

    Brent Barry is staying with the Spurs and Sam Cassell is coming to the Celtics.

    Done and Done. You heard it here folks.

    rumor has it that an HEB commercial featuring Barry is not being pulled because he told them he's coming back. They will resume running the commercial when he returns.

    And Cassell could potentially go elsewhere but when it comes down to it we want him and he wants to come here. so there's a good chance he'll reunite with KG.
    The only other team I could see Barry going to is the Lakers -- Phil Jackson loves to do things to get in the heads of his main rival (the Spurs now). And Barry is an LA guy. But the Lakers already have some Barry-type players (Euros) so I don't see it.

    Barry would have to swallow hard to go to Phoenix -- he's too sharp to think they can win it all. The Rockets went out with Yao MIng.

    But I do think Barry would like to see Pop sweat a little. So he might take his time.

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    the argentine mafia broke yao's foot

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    Ah, that takes me back.
    Me too. Ginobili or Giricek, who do we trade? Some in here went into flames about giving up Gordan for cash and a second rounder. Compared with Ginobili, it was a no-brainer in retrospect but just looking at the deal straight-up...it wasn't that fruitful. It would end up being the 52nd pick in 2004, Romain Sato. Sato didn't pan out but neither did anyone else selected after him that year, including Sergei Karaulov.

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    I just want to hear from Brent when a decision has been made. I want to avoid the insanity of all the back and forth,speculation details.

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    Giricek would be someone to look at, obviously, if the Spurs aren't able to bring back Barry and Giricek is waived.

    He can shoot the rock and not much else. Still, that is worth something in today's NBA.

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    Kerr is the a-hole who as a TV commentator/part owner of the Suns/impending GM of the Suns was on TV opining that maybe Duncan should be suspended for stepping onto the court. Pop had to pull him aside and tell him he was lacking integrity and needed to lose one of his hats.
    Yeah, Kerr definitely appeared to have an agenda, and as I recall his minority ownership of the Suns wasn't exactly something he advertised. It was kind of funny, because non-Spurs fans always complained about how biased Kerr was towards the Spurs. Kerr is certainly en led to his opinions, but I don't remember anyone from his network employers taking care to specify his affiliation. In his Yahoo Sports column after Game 4, he's not identified by Yahoo as anything other than an analyst. (Sorry, having trouble with the link, but I just re-read the column.)

    I didn't remember Pop saying anything to Kerr, though. Interesting.

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    Who cares where he goes...with or without him Spurs will repeat, the trade that involved him solved the biggest weakness of the spurs in my OPINION (getting a tough defender that can REBOUND and block shots its all the spurs needed) and we got rid of Francisco Elson…also its going to give Udoka more minutes, to me it’s a no lose situation.

    Its funny how out of nowhere where ever Barry goes that team will win the le, don’t get me wrong I would love to see Barry back with the Spurs but if it doesn't happen, so be it, the spurs will be fine.
    Exactly the point I was making earlier. There's no doubt Barry's return will strengthen the bench play and open up the floor. However, let's not act as though the Spurs championship will diminish considerably if he's not there. , they've played without him for a majority of the season because of injury.

    As Typhoon pointed out, it was MUCH more necessary for the Spurs to land a player the caliber of Thomas. Especially since they'll likely be going up against some of the conference's much taller and bigger frontlines in the playoffs.

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    Yeah, Kerr definitely appeared to have an agenda, and as I recall his minority ownership of the Suns wasn't exactly something he advertised. It was kind of funny, because non-Spurs fans always complained about how biased Kerr was towards the Spurs. Kerr is certainly en led to his opinions, but I don't remember anyone from his network employers taking care to specify his affiliation. In his Yahoo Sports column after Game 4, he's not identified by Yahoo as anything other than an analyst. (Sorry, having trouble with the link, but I just re-read the column.)

    I didn't remember Pop saying anything to Kerr, though. Interesting.
    You can read it from this article last year:

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...r.3b84079.html

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    Then came the Horry-Nash controversy last month, and Kerr wrote what many said then. He hoped no one would be suspended.

    But he also wrote something else that no one else had knowledge of at the time: "However, if the league decides to suspend (Boris) Diaw and (Amare) Stoudemire, it may have to suspend Tim Duncan and Bruce Bowen as well. In a play that went entirely unnoticed until well after the game was over, both Duncan and Bowen actually left San Antonio's bench early in the second quarter after Francisco Elson and James Jones were entangled. Replays clearly show Duncan walking several steps onto the court as Elson and Jones appeared to be ready to get into it."

    Take it from someone who has been wrong in print a few times over the last quarter of a century in San Antonio. There are times when writers wish they could take back a few words, if not entire ideas.

    Kerr might have felt the same as soon as the next day. The NBA looked at the replays and didn't see anything.

    Had another columnist written the same words, Kerr's story would have been taken as opinion and nothing more. But Kerr had advocated something others hadn't said except for, coincidentally, the Suns.

    Was he acting as an observer? Or as a Suns investor?

    Popovich rarely reacts to anything in print, but he glared at Kerr at their next encounter. Popovich also told him angrily: You are wearing too many hats.

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    I hope the delay is just drama.

    It seems like an easy decision to me, especially if the Spurs are offering a better deal.
    He knows the team, he has to know the Spurs are his best chance for another ring. His family is settled in SA, why uproot kids if you don't have to?

    The mere thought that he would try to help Shaq get his fifth before helping Duncan get his could make me question why I like Barry so much. And I've been a Barry fan for years, long before he was a Spur.

    The NBA is a business, but somewhere in that I hope there's room for some sense of loyalty. Barry should retire with the team that got him the ultimate reward. Twice so far...

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    Why would Brent Barry be concerned with how many rings Shaquille and Timmy have? Barry is, and should be, concerned about one person: himself.

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    The mere thought that he would try to help Shaq get his fifth before helping Duncan get his could make me question why I like Barry so much. And I've been a Barry fan for years, long before he was a Spur.

    The NBA is a business, but somewhere in that I hope there's room for some sense of loyalty. Barry should retire with the team that got him the ultimate reward. Twice so far...
    Yes, that's pretty much the way I feel, mostly about the Shaq part . I understand and don't mind players weighing offers and doing what's ultimately best for them--that's what they have to do--particularly when said player has been traded and his sense of loyalty might understandably be compromised. I just hope he makes his mind up soon, since I've got other things to worry about!

    And thank you, carina_gino 20 for posting that article with the information about Pop.

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    Why would Brent Barry be concerned with how many rings Shaquille and Timmy have? Barry is, and should be, concerned about one person: himself.
    Actaully I'm pretty sure that one of the factors weighing in the decsion is loyalty to friends. Ultimately it may not be the deciding factor but I'm sure if Barry thought the Spurs were a bunch of jerks he'd have already made his decsion already.

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    Why would Brent Barry be concerned with how many rings Shaquille and Timmy have? Barry is, and should be, concerned about one person: himself.
    Uh, because Timmy got him the two rings he has. Not to mention your team's players and fans treated his team like last year. I don't know why he would want to go to that

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    Actaully I'm pretty sure that one of the factors weighing in the decsion is loyalty to friends. Ultimately it may not be the deciding factor but I'm sure if Barry thought the Spurs were a bunch of jerks he'd have already made his decsion already.
    Loyalty to friends is one thing, but I doubt the amount of rings Shaq owns is weighing his decision.

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    The latest news are Brent Barry is thinking San Antonio Spurs and Phoenix Suns.

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    The NBA is a business, but somewhere in that I hope there's room for some sense of loyalty. Barry should retire with the team that got him the ultimate reward. Twice so far...
    That team had no loyalty to him, and tried to trade him constantly for the last few seasons. I don't get why Barry is expected to have loyalty in return when the Spurs weren't loyal to him (not that I expect them to be).

    I won't blame him at all if he goes elsewhere. But with the roots his family have established in the community here, I hope he signs with the Spurs.

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    Yes, that's pretty much the way I feel, mostly about the Shaq part . I understand and don't mind players weighing offers and doing what's ultimately best for them--that's what they have to do--particularly when said player has been traded and his sense of loyalty might understandably be compromised. I just hope he makes his mind up soon, since I've got other things to worry about!

    And thank you, carina_gino 20 for posting that article with the information about Pop.
    You're welcome. It was cool to have Pop tell it like it is. Kerr was just pushing it too far last summer.

    I really hope Brent signs back again with us. I do think this is the part where all the 'family' orientation of the Spurs can be very beneficial. He would've bolted immediately if there was not a single feeling of attachment to the team.

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    A post on the dallas morning news mavsblog said he eliminated the Mavs and other teams from consideration and it's down to PHX and SAS. Can't decide where I want him to go since we're not getting him.

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    Come to Phoenix, Barry, I'll bake you a ing cake.

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    No loyalty in business anymore. Its all about getting the best deal you can and about the best fit. He may see the Suns as a better fit. As good as he is his defense was never Pop grade and he wasnt the greatest fit with the Spurs. Tough decision.

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    Plus, he already knows the system.

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    One reason I'd like Bones to stay is that I'd like to someday see him sittiing in a Spurs broadcasting chair.

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    That team had no loyalty to him, and tried to trade him constantly for the last few seasons. I don't get why Barry is expected to have loyalty in return when the Spurs weren't loyal to him (not that I expect them to be).
    That's why I'm trying to blend the business aspect with a sense of loyalty.
    The team trying to trade him, and finally doing so, is business.
    We don't know if there was any behind the scenes action, knowing the Sonics would waive him and bringing him back here. It looks like that was the plan, maybe with no one realizing how hard the Suns would go after him.

    At the end of the day Barry must do what's best for him and his family. On paper that looks like the Spurs. I hope that through all the business side of it that Barry would still have some sense of loyalty to the Spurs, of belonging on the Spurs.
    And they offered him a better deal on top of it. That should help ease the sting of being traded. The Spurs put their money where their mouth is.

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    That team had no loyalty to him, and tried to trade him constantly for the last few seasons. I don't get why Barry is expected to have loyalty in return when the Spurs weren't loyal to him (not that I expect them to be).
    I guess that partly depends on which part of the team we're talking about. I would imagine he does feel some sort of loyalty to the players, but much less, if any, when it comes to the front office.

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    This can just go in one of the other Brent Barry threads. No reason for a new one.

    I'm going to merge it.

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