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    Well, Israel does have a racist government, so yes. Unless of course, you think Arab Israeli's get the same treatment as Jewish ones.

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    The specifics of the situation don't make the point flawed.

    You just miss the point.

    The point isthat under certain situations regarding a different religion or group, people would not oppose the rejection of aid in this country. Yet we don't let another country make a stand on principle without being critical.
    Your point involves comparing Israel to purveyors of pure evil and hate groups with a history of violence.

    It also involves equating minor highway maintenance with one of the worst natural disasters in recorded history.

    Sri Lanka is standing on the "principle" that they would rather die of starvation and disease than accept help from Jews. That's their choice, but I fail to see how somebody could find that "principled" unless they viewed Israel as basically the most evil country on Earth, which would require a rather twisted worldview.

    For your next performance, are you going to equate Sri Lanka's actions with an adoption service turning away volunteers from NAMBLA?

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    Israel is right on par with hate groups that perpetrate violence.

    I see Hook Dem is reading this post as I type this, I wonder what great one liner without substance is coming.

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    Israel is right on par with hate groups that perpetrate violence.
    You're full of Manny. I hope you catch fire in a crowd of Jews so you can refuse their offers to piss on you.

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    Israel is right on par with hate groups that perpetrate violence.

    I see Hook Dem is reading this post as I type this, I wonder what great one liner without substance is coming.
    Hey Manny.... you! I no longer care what you think since you think the world owes you a living. You are a living example of a true loser. I am not Jewish so your comments on Israel don't ruffle my skin at all. It is clear to me though that you are more arab than mexican. Why don't you put something a little more pleasant in your avatar than Manny shooting the finger. That would be pretty impressive in high school.

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    You're full of Manny. I hope you catch fire in a crowd of Jews so you can refuse their offers to piss on you.

    I wasn't attacking the Jewish faith.

    Israel has a do ented history of treating Arab Israelis as second class citizens. For cryingout loud the US governement says as much as that.

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    The world owes me a living? Speaking of high school...

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    The world owes me a living? Speaking of high school...
    Aren't you the one who is always saying the government should pay for your education while you are out partying instead of working? There isn't a week that goes by that you aren't looking for work but never find it. That being said, I don't think you need any further education because you have clearly shown us that you already know everything.

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    I wasn't attacking the Jewish faith.

    Israel has a do ented history of treating Arab Israelis as second class citizens. For cryingout loud the US governement says as much as that.
    Oh, and Muslim countries have such a successful human rights, women's rights, and children's rights history.

    How many Jews are on the legislatures of Muslim countries? Oh, wait...how many Muslim countries have legislative bodies that are popularly elected?

    There are Arab Israelis on the Knesset. What's your basis for saying they treat Arab Israelis as second class? It's not like they flog them or commit honor killings when they get raped, is it?

    You're really full of , Manny...again, you should burst into flames in a room full of Jews who know how anti-semitic you are.

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    excuse me?

    I'm always out partying? What the ?

    Yes, You know me ever the club hopper and drunkard.

    As for the government, woudl you like to know how much money I've recieved to finance my education with that was not made by myself. That my uninformed friend woudl come to a grand total of zero.

    As for the work, I've been offered positions both here in San Antonio and in Austin that are full time. However, I am searching for part time school friendly jobs.

    But yes, would you support me Hook with the social security checks you get?

    Tell me, are you able to see your tonsils with your head so far up your ass?

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    You claim you're getting an education, Manny?

    Sheesh! I'd ask for a refund...

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    Tell me, what relevancy does any other nations treatment of their citzens have to do when discussing whether or not Israel treats their Arab citzens properly?

    And once again, I've never said a damn thing about the Jewish faith, so how does that make me anti semetic? Being opposed to the actions of Israel are equal to hating jews? You can be opposed to my views on Israeli actions, but you're reaching to say I'm an anti semite.

    As for basis:

    http://www.icg.org/home/index.cfm?id=2528&l=1
    Israel's Palestinian Arab citizens -- almost 20 per cent of the population -- are largely cut off from the geographical, cultural, economic and political mainstream. They enjoy political rights unknown to many in the region but nonetheless are subject to various forms of discrimination, some direct and official, others less so. These affect the three most fundamental assets of democratic society: resources, rights and representation. Some of the more grievous cases involve the predominantly Bedouin population of the so-called unrecognised villages, which is deprived of rudimentary services and subjected to seemingly arbitrary home demolitions.

    http://web.amnesty.org/wire/September2004/Israel
    Law quashes the right of Israeli Arab citizens to family life
    A woman and her daughter join a demonstration in July
    A woman and her daughter join a demonstration in July against the Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law
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    Families face being torn apart by the Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law, which discriminates on the basis of ethnicity and nationality

    Thousands of Israeli Arab citizens continue to be denied the right to live as a family by a controversial law which was extended in July. The Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law bars Israelis married to Palestinians from the Occupied Territories from living together in Israel. They have no alternative but to live with their spouses "illegally" or have their families torn apart. For most, leaving the country altogether is simply not an option.

    "At the Interior Ministry they told me to either get divorced or to go live in the West Bank," said Salwa Abu Jaber, 29, from northern Israel. Speaking to AI, she explained how her husband, Mahmoud al-Hader of Jenin, was repeatedly refused "family unification" - the authorization required of all Palestinians wishing to join their families in Israel. Faced with little choice, Mahmoud al-Hader has been forced to live illegally in Israel with his wife and their children. As a result, says Abu Jaber, "my husband is like a prisoner here; he cannot go anywhere for fear of being arrested and expelled again".

    The law has been condemned at the international level as a form of ins utionalized racism because it discriminates against a group of people on the basis of their ethnicity and nationality. Given that it is mostly Israeli Arabs who marry Palestinians from the Occupied Territories, the law has a disproportionate impact on them.

    First introduced in July 2003, the law is just one among many existing regulations and practices which discriminate against Palestinians in Israel and the Occupied Territories. These include the Entry into Israel Law and the Law of Return which automatically give Jews from anywhere in the world the right to become Israeli citizens and live in Israel or the Occupied Territories. At the same time, they deny the right to return to Palestinian refugees who were displaced or expelled during the creation of Israel in 1948 and subsequent conflicts. The Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law represents a further step in consolidating Israel’s policy of limiting the number of Palestinians who are permitted to live in the country.

    The Israeli government has claimed that it is acting in the interests of national security, arguing that fewer Palestinians in the country would lessen the threat of violence and attacks carried out by them. However, these claims collapse in the face of comments made by Israeli ministers and officials describing the Palestinians - who account for 20 per cent of the population in Israel - as a "demographic threat". When the law was proposed it was the demographic argument that was emphasized, not security considerations.

    In early July, AI reiterated its call for a repeal of the law, recommending that applications for family unification be processed according to non-discriminatory principles. AI has condemned the law not only for its discriminatory nature, but for its denial of the fundamental right to family life. Under international human rights law, Israel has a duty to protect the rights of the family, but in practice this obligation has not been extended to its Palestinian citizens.

    For further information see Israel and the Occupied Territories Torn Apart: Families split by discriminatory policies (MDE 15/063/2004).
    This is from the last State Department report on Human Rights in Israel, almost a year ago. The new one should be out in about a month.

    The Government did little to reduce ins utional, legal, and societal discrimination against the country's Arab citizens, who cons uted approximately 20 percent of the population but did not share fully the rights and benefits provided to, and obligations imposed on, the country's Jewish citizens. The Government interfered with individual privacy in some instances. The Government interfered with an individual's ability to marry within the country by not recognizing Jewish marriages other than those performed by the Orthodox Jewish establishment and by prohibiting civil marriages. Discrimination and societal violence against women persisted, although the Government continued to take steps to address these problems. Discrimination against persons with disabilities persisted. Trafficking in women into the country for the purpose of forced pros ution was a continuing problem. There was evidence of labor trafficking among the country's estimated 236,000 foreign workers. Abuse of foreign workers, including pros utes, some of whom were trafficked to and employed illegally in the country, continued.
    The law provides for an independent judiciary, and the Government generally respected this provision in practice. The judiciary generally provided citizens with a fair and efficient judicial process. However, in practice, Arab citizens often received harsher punishments than Jewish citizens did. Palestinians from the occupied territories are prosecuted under a separate system of military law and courts.
    According to human rights organizations, the legal system in practice often imposed harsher punishments on Israeli-Arab citizens than on Israeli-Jewish citizens. A study released in December by Haifa University indicated that there is serious discrimination against Israeli-Arabs in the criminal justice system, including a tendency to render heavier prison terms to Israeli-Arabs. For example, human rights advocates claimed that Arab citizens were more likely to be convicted of murder (which carries a mandatory life sentence for adults) than Jewish citizens. The courts reportedly also were more likely to detain without bail Arab citizens until the conclusion of proceedings. According to the Government, as of December 1, of the 3,572 citizens held in detention, 1,177 were Arab. In May, the former mayor of the Israeli-Arab city of Umm al-Fahm and leader of the Islamic Movement-Northern Branch in Israel, Sheikh Raed Salah, was arrested for allegedly funneling funding to charity organizations associated with a terrorist organization. The current mayor of Umm al-Fahm and other leaders of the Islamic Movement were also arrested. Despite Salah's and the serving mayor's status and ties to the community, they were detained without bail. At year's end, they remained imprisoned pending conclusion of their trial. Human rights groups have criticized their remand during trial as discriminatory.
    The Government did not allocate sufficient resources or take adequate measures to provide Israeli Arabs, who cons ute approximately 20 percent of the population, with the same quality of government services, as well as the same opportunities for government employment, as Jews. In addition, government spending was proportionally far lower in predominantly Arab areas than in Jewish areas; on a per capita basis, the Government spent two-thirds as much for Arabs as for Jews. The Government noted in a 2002 report to the U.N. that "the Arab population is typified by larger families, lower levels of education, and lower income than the total Israeli population."
    http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2003/27929.htm
    There's a whole of a lot more in that report as well, I hardly think what I said is baseless.

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    You claim you're getting an education, Manny?

    Sheesh! I'd ask for a refund...
    Well, maybe you look funny, Yonivore.

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    You claim you're getting an education, Manny?

    Sheesh! I'd ask for a refund...
    Fair enough, but how about the points raised?

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    Well?

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    "But yes, would you support me Hook with the social security checks you get?

    Tell me, are you able to see your tonsils with your head so far up your ass?" ...............................You need to learn a little bit about how the system works Manny! I don't get social security check(s) . I receive one amount per month for paying into it for 50 years. And no, I'm not supporting your lazy ass! I don't have any tonsils and I doubt very seriously if you could get your head up your ass....it's so big! Why don't we quit with the insults because I'll guarantee you aren't going to intimidate me.

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    well, you're right I can't get my head up my ass.

    Oh I don't know about the latter, you already sound intimidated.

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    "But yes, would you support me Hook with the social security checks you get?

    Tell me, are you able to see your tonsils with your head so far up your ass?" ...............................You need to learn a little bit about how the system works Manny! I don't get social security check(s) . I receive one amount per month for paying into it for 50 years. And no, I'm not supporting your lazy ass! I don't have any tonsils and I doubt very seriously if you could get your head up your ass....it's so big! Why don't we quit with the insults because I'll guarantee you aren't going to intimidate me.
    I've been looking for a sig upgrade.

    Testing 1...2...3

    EDIT: APPARENTLY, the check box to show sig ain't working.

    "I doubt very seriously if you could get your head up your ass....it's so big! Why don't we quit with the insults because I'll guarantee you aren't going to intimidate me."

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    well, you're right I can't get my head up my ass.

    Oh I don't know about the latter, you already sound intimidated.
    Alrighty then! Don't say I didn't try to end it. Everything is fair game. The day you intimidate me, I'll check out. Bring it fat man!

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    Hook, I don't care if it ends. It's too damn easy to screw with you. You're like Tpark with a social security check.

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    You're like Tpark with a social security check.

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    Hook, I don't care if it ends. It's too damn easy to screw with you. You're like Tpark with a social security check.
    Eat your heart out......you aren't even started in life. You'll learn that you reallydon't know everything.

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    Hook, everytime I think I grow wiser as I grow older, you burst my bubble.

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    Hook, everytime I think I grow wiser as I grow older, you burst my bubble.
    GON....I'll just attribute it to....Been There...Done That.

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    oblivious.

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