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    I've never been a fan of point guards posting up, as it completely kills a team's offense. Mark Jackson's final years in Indiana were a perfect example of this. If Kidd wants to go on the block, I'm fine with that.
    Posting up doesn't quite mean scoring. Often times, it will draw a double team, and with Kidd passing, it means there will be a wide open shot.

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    Well, with the current roster it is hard to tell. Dirk is not that good, if he has to dribble the ball. I would let him score on Oberto and "shut down" the rest of the team. The Mavs are still a though matchup, no doubt... but you could ask: Who will guard Timmy or TP or Manu? It will take a good team effort to beat the Mavs...
    It goes both ways.

    Who will guard Dirk, Howard, and Terry?

    Who will guard Tim, Manu, and Parker?

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    Okay, like Finley is all that great of a defender, or quick enough to hold Terry. Terry will get wide open for 3's all day long, like he always does against the Spurs.

    Kidd is one of the best post-up PG's in the league, while Parker is one of the smaller and weakest PG's around. Are you telling me Parker is strong enough to hold his ground against Kidd? I think not, fatso.

    who said we're gonna stick parker on kidd, and vice versa?
    see, you don't know jack - you're assuming, and like the old saying goes, you're making an ASS out of yourself.

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    who said we're gonna stick parker on kidd, and vice versa?
    see, you don't know jack - you're assuming, and like the old saying goes, you're making an ASS out of yourself.
    It was dependent on what that one poster said, whom I quoted. In his lineup, he had Parker on Kidd, and Finley on Terry. Read the posts before replying, face.

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    Parker can defend Kidd. Kidd can't defend Parker.

    If TD gets Dampier in foul trouble who exactly is going to pick up the slack? Magloire? Please.

    The Mavs can't slow down two of the Spurs' Big 3 now. Plus Manu's been playing out of his ing mind.

    Thanks for that trade again.

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    It was dependent on what that one poster said, whom I quoted. In his lineup, he had Parker on Kidd, and Finley on Terry. Read the posts before replying, face.

    alright.
    well, ill just shut my mouth now..
    cause we all know who's winning tonight.
    its a good thing your coach has played with the spurs, and he's not a sore loser..
    maybe he's passed that on to his teammates, and possibly his fan base.

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    I still think that in end game situations with the chips on the table, we'll see Bruce on Dirk -- for all the contrarians, Bruce has actually been a fairly effective defender on Dirk in the past. Bruce makes sense in that role if only because he'll have more credibility with officials. It helps that Bruce is actually capable of making Dirk work for shots and causing him to take a lot of uncomfortable shots.

    With that said, I'd expect the Spurs to do at least some experimentation tonight, including some time with Udoka, Finley, Duncan, Oberto, and perhaps even Thomas on Dirk at various points tonight.

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    Parker can defend Kidd. Kidd can't defend Parker.

    If TD gets Dampier in foul trouble who exactly is going to pick up the slack? Magloire? Please.

    The Mavs can't slow down two of the Spurs' Big 3 now. Plus Manu's been playing out of his ing mind.

    Thanks for that trade again.
    Kidd should defend Manu and Howard and Terry switch on Parker.

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    Kidd should defend Manu and Howard and Terry switch on Parker.
    Manu would kill Kidd. He would have a better chance against a rusty Parker than Manu right now.

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    If Kidd defends Manu he might give up 50 tonight.

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    I'd expect the Mavs to put Terry on Parker and to hide Kidd on Bowen. AJ may try to man up and put Kidd on Parker early, but I think the record pretty clearly established that when Kidd was a much more athletic player in 2003, Tony Parker blew by him for 3 games to open the Finals and got slowed down only when Byron Scott changed that matchup.

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    If Kidd defends Manu he might give up 50 tonight.
    Have you seen any of Kidd's games since he came to Dallas? He is a very good defender. Especially against bigger players. His flaw maybe against the small and speedy point guards but he is solid against players like Manu.

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    I'd expect the Mavs to put Terry on Parker and to hide Kidd on Bowen. AJ may try to man up and put Kidd on Parker early, but I think the record pretty clearly established that when Kidd was a much more athletic player in 2003, Tony Parker blew by him for 3 games to open the Finals and got slowed down only when Byron Scott changed that matchup.
    mavs will hide terry on bowen....kidd, while slim, has a better chance against Parker than Terry does

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    Have you seen any of Kidd's games since he came to Dallas? He is a very good defender. Especially against bigger players. His flaw maybe against the small and speedy point guards but he is solid against players like Manu.
    It takes more than "very good"...

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    alright.
    well, ill just shut my mouth now..
    Please, do.

    cause we all know who's winning tonight.
    Who is that?

    its a good thing your coach has played with the spurs, and he's not a sore loser..
    maybe he's passed that on to his teammates, and possibly his fan base.

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    Kidd should defend Manu and Howard and Terry switch on Parker.

    Please let Avery Johnson be that stupid..

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    Please, do.



    Who is that?





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    Bruce or Oberto...


    It's a myth that Dirk can't be guarded by big strong players...Alonzo Mourning and Shaq kicked his ass into the dirt in the 06 finals. I know they were putting Posey and Haslem on him too...but it was Zo and Shaq that made Dirk mortal again by putting him on his ass.


    Dirk doesn't like getting banged around and it effects his game negatively.


    Fact.

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    Please let Avery Johnson be that stupid..
    Are you saying it is best for Kidd to guard Parker? Someone that he historically has had problems with? Manu isn't as quick and Kidd guards 2 guards well. I guess the haters will say Kidd is Nash on defense.

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    Are you saying it is best for Kidd to guard Parker. Someone that he historically has had problems with?
    What are you talking about? Parker usually plays quite well against Kidd.

    Manu isn't as quick and Kidd guards 2 guards well. I guess the haters will say Kidd is Nash on defense.

    Manu is still quick and I don't think Kidd can guard him effectively. I'm going to guess Howard guards him. And no, Kidd isn't Nash on defense, but he's not Bowen either.

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    Are you saying it is best for Kidd to guard Parker? Someone that he historically has had problems with? Manu isn't as quick and Kidd guards 2 guards well. I guess the haters will say Kidd is Nash on defense.
    It has more to do with the situation. Tony is still working out the kinks. Manu has been destroying everything in his path the last month or so. Its just a matter of timing.

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    Are you saying it is best for Kidd to guard Parker? Someone that he historically has had problems with? Manu isn't as quick and Kidd guards 2 guards well. I guess the haters will say Kidd is Nash on defense.

    No he better hide Kidd on Bowen, unless he wants him to be in foul trouble all night.


    Of course if you had Devin Harris he could take Parker straight up, you could hide Terry on Bowen, and leave Howard who can defend Ginobili, on manu.

    But hey, you've got a point guard getting 15 assists a night so everythings good!!

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    what is all of this talk of how of Tp ran circles around Kidd back in the 2003 Finals...those stats arent very dominating to me

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baske...03safinals.htm

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baske...03njfinals.htm

    Parker '03 Finals

    35.3 min
    14.0 pts
    3.2 rebs
    4.2 asts
    32-83 fg
    .386 fg%
    14-23 ft%
    .609 fta
    6-14 3pt
    .429 3p%

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    what is all of this talk of how of Tp ran circles around Kidd back in the 2003 Finals...those stats arent vary dominating to me

    Parker 35.3min 14.0pts 3.2rebs 4.2asts 32-83fg .386 fg% 14-23 ft% .609 fta 6-14 3pt .429 3p%

    Because Kidd couldn't guard Parker and publicly begged for help defending him...


    That lead to the Nets putting taller longer Kerry Kittles on him and Kerry Kittles did an excellent job on him.


    IOW, those stats are not indicative of what Kidd did to Parker...but more what Kittles did to him.


    Tony Parker might have won the Finals MVP that year if they hadn't stopped guarding him with Kidd...

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    what is all of this talk of how of Tp ran circles around Kidd back in the 2003 Finals...those stats arent very dominating to me

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baske...03safinals.htm

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baske...03njfinals.htm

    Parker '03 Finals

    35.3 min
    14.0 pts
    3.2 rebs
    4.2 asts
    32-83 fg
    .386 fg%
    14-23 ft%
    .609 fta
    6-14 3pt
    .429 3p%


    All you are establishing is that you didn't actually watch the 2003 NBA finals.


    Not surprising since basketball as we know it didn't exist in Dallas until 2006.

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