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    It was a brainfart on TP's part, but he was just being matter-a-fact about it. Kidd can't really compete with Parker to take him on individually, but it might add some incentive for Kidd to really want to beat us. He could have helped to try and win it on that last possession, if he was given the chance.

    But yeah, it's better not to open your mouth like that. Oh well.


    I agree...especially since the media always exaggerates everything and makes it seem a lot worse. Reading Tony's comment, he's just basically saying that Davin Harris/Diop presented more match up problems for the Spurs, while saying that it's no offense to Jason Kidd...YET, obviously, that is sort of dissing...but not too much.

    I just think there is no necessity to add fuel to anyone...Usually, all the Spurs players basically keep everything to themselves...without making any public statements about certain things.

    It's just that you never want to add any kind of extra heat...Jason Kidd probably took it personally, one would assume. It's better to avoid anything that can fire up an opponent, especially on a rival team like Dallas that already has their beef with the Spurs...

    I still think that TP's words were a bit exaggerated though...the headlines for the articles were like "Tony Parker is HAPPY that..." I don't remember him saying that he's super excited about the trade or anything...more about him talking about the match ups...

    Jason Kidd could have heard the over the top/multiplied version of what TP had said...He took offense to that, obviously.

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    Parker hasn't said anything most of the Spurs fans weren't saying right after the trade anyway. Kidd with a grudge just makes it a better matchup. I'll take my chances with Parker.

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    True, although I think the biggest failure with him was not fully understanding his unwillingness to go overseas for at least one season. This year's draft class on the whole is proving to have been overrated anyway.
    The biggest failure with him was reaching for an undersized guy with a history of off-the-court problems and an inability to shoot or play defense.

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    Nah, I'm not bagging on the pick per se because there's maybe one guy picked after him that has been worth anything this season. This past draft was a tease and is an object lesson for people who put too much importance on crappy picks. Lightning isn't going to strike every season.

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    Nah, I'm not bagging on the pick per se because there's maybe one guy picked after him that has been worth anything this season. This past draft was a tease and is an object lesson for people who put too much importance on crappy picks. Lightning isn't going to strike every season.
    That's definitely true. It's not like they skipped someone who was on their radar and is now tearing the league up. If anything, it could be that they were reaching for potential because they knew there wasn't anybody there.

    Marcus does suck, though.

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    He actually played really well these past few games. He'll probably be the Toros' #2 guy after Langford leaves.

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    He actually played really well these past few games. He'll probably be the Toros' #2 guy after Langford leaves.
    Damn, I was hoping you wouldn't call me out on that one.

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    looking back, the Spurs helped improve their two biggest rivals all for the right to insult their own young point guard.
    Come to think of it... later on SA made another similar move. You can add the Scola deal in that mix- The spurs also improved division rival Houston.

    That's so kind of them... giving the other teams a chance to win against them

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    You guys notice...as pissed off as Kidd was...he wasn't exactly chomping at the bit to guard Tony(and neither was AJ)....he did look more determined against Manu though. He's not fast enough to guard Manu either.


    I'm not sure that pissing Kidd off is the wrong thing to do...he plays at such a high level that pissing him might get him to force things.

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    Damn, I was hoping you wouldn't call me out on that one.
    There's no telling he'll ever stick in the NBA, but he has come a long way since summer league.

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    It'll be really interesting to hear what talk radio has to say up here tomorrow about Kidd being on the bench.

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    It'll be really interesting to hear what talk radio has to say up here tomorrow about Kidd being on the bench.
    ESPN, TNT inside, and the Dallas newspapers are all questioning and criticizing Avery for the move (as they should). I'm sure he will be blasted more.
    Avery is probably the only coach who would go for guys like Brickhouse or Turtle head Terry over Kidd. I hope this s up their chemistry.

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    Dallas keeps finding ways to stay atop the NBA laughing stock power rankings every week.

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    That rise in temperature AJ just felt was the magnifying glass lens moving into position above him. I really wonder if he'll be able to survive it. However far the Mavs go, it's going to be tough for him to dodge the inevitable blame that's going to funnel right to him.

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    You guys notice...as pissed off as Kidd was...he wasn't exactly chomping at the bit to guard Tony(and neither was AJ)....he did look more determined against Manu though. He's not fast enough to guard Manu either.


    I'm not sure that pissing Kidd off is the wrong thing to do...he plays at such a high level that pissing him might get him to force things.


    Apparently Dirk also had a few comments about TP's comments:


    "I saw that," Nowitzki said of Parker's comments. "I guess we'll just have to wait and see. We like our chances against anybody. That's how you got to look at it in the West. Everybody's so tough, and it's so tight that you got to be able to beat anybody."

    Then Nowitzki couldn't help himself. He had to slip in a little sarcasm about Parker.

    "Ultimately, they're still the champions, so whatever he says is going to be right because they've won three or four [ les]," Nowitzki said. "They're still the team to beat.

    "It's just speculation. Nobody ever really knows what's going on. All the so-called experts give their opinion, but nobody's ever right. We'll just see what happens."



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    The "Barbosa/Howard" trade wasn't bad by itself. Spurs have just traded a late first round pick for a future first round pick.
    Was Pop way higher on Howard than he is usually on players drafted by Spurs ?
    I haven't the answer to that question. If Pop was in love with Howard, the trade was bad. If Pop just like Howard, the trade was just unlucky.

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    I was talking about what Parker said after Kidd got traded to Dallas, not his comments from years ago.
    oh ok! I thought you were talking about the comments from 03.

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