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beno is playing like a superstar against the lakers. and he's not timid at all against the pressure.
Teams wouldn't give up much for Scola or Udrih, because they didn't think them worth much. Now they're tearing it up a bit, showing the Spurs did have some talent.
Except now the Spurs have no similar assets to trade. Except Mahinmi. Should they wish to trade off Mahinmi, their success might bring up the price a bit.
beno is playing like a superstar against the lakers. and he's not timid at all against the pressure.
Of course they do. Nobody is comparing Parker as a passer to Nash, Kidd, or Paul.
But, even those 3 would see a drop-off in their assist numbers if they played in an offense where they would have to play in the system more than just 'wing-it'. Look at how Avery has had to change things up to adapt to Kidd.
Now this is ok and completely diferent than:
No, I'm not backing off that. He's nowhere near Tony's talent level.
Beno turned the ball over against the Rockets, though. And don't forget when he couldn't bring the ball up against Detroit. He sucks.
Udrih at the same level as Parker ???
because he made three good games ??
his stats this year, his best year in NBA : 12.5 ppg 4.3 apg 45 % FG. always a weak defender.
Parker, on an usual level for him and despite having played a lot of games injured or back in rythm:
18.5 ppg 5.8 apg 49 % FG. always a decent defender, even very good at staying in front of his man, not allowing open looks.
We all know there are some Parker haters and that they wait any occasion to bash TP. but sometimes the level of dishonesty they reach is simply stupidity.
Tony Parker has started one fewer game this season than Beno has his entire career. Not even worthy of comparison, but Beno is certainly far better than many on this board ever gave him credit for.
That said, I'm really glad he's doing well - for someone other than the Spurs.
Beno is a good basketball player.No doubt about it.The most talented backup PG we had for a long time. Qualities very different from parker's ones. that made him very interesting as a TP backup. It simply didn't work. nothing against him.
He simply can't be compared at Parker considering their respective NBA career. not the same category of player. and the usual from the TP's haters is boring.
It has less to do with that than game experience and work ethic. Parker is better than Beno because he has more experience, and he earned the PT through hard work. Beno doesn't have the time to be able to make any kid of comparison. We'll revisit the conversation in two years. Beno could be an all star or he could be at a club back home spending his guaranteed money on drinks and fast food. Beno wasn't ever going to be what he currently is as a Spur under any cir stances other than a coaching change.
I see your view is not obstructed anymore. I agree with you completely.
So my views are only valid when you agree with them? Wow, I can't tell you how much I value your approval. Or maybe I just did.I see your view is not obstructed anymore. I agree with you completely.
Exactly.
And good luck to him.
I am just wondering where all the people went who said Beno did not even belong in the NBA- that no NBA team would ever even want him. I am looking forward to seeing him play in SA soon.
those people were obviously wrong.
but in terms of back-up PG on a championship team:
vaughn >>>>> beno
(and it's not like teams were banging down the spurs door to trade for beno either)
Never hear from Udrih he want to be a back-up PG or back-up to TP. How could one be motivated if he is used for teaching and proving other players how they shouldn't play or do?
I claim, almost any player, newcomer in team, Spurs, with Pop as coach (do not say that is not ok) with TP in front of him would be used in same way. Good team will always need a PG who knows he will not be replaced (long term) if he make a mistake. And TP did not have nowbody in front of him. No metter how many mistakes, TO, whatever he make. Who would play if he was replaced?
And in terms of back-up PG on the Spurs:
Nobody >>>>>>> beno.
And I don't mean that nobody is better than he is, I mean that not having anybody is better than having him. Again, I'm glad he's doing well. Almost as glad as I am that he's gone.
You have a point, however Pop didn't make it easy for TP.
Nevertheless, that doesn't excuse Beno to play like a scrub when coming of the bench. See King's games with Bibby starting.
PS: doghousing and NVE experiment didn't help either, still this should be no excuse.
Udrih has case for long stay
The guard shines in Sacramento after Minnesota cut him quickly.
It was only 10 minutes. And as Beno Udrih saw it, it wasn't a pleasant 10 minutes.
Before the point guard became the rising star in Sacramento, signing with the Kings on Nov. 1 as an emergency fill-in for the injured Mike Bibby and beginning his career anew four years in, he was a member of the Minnesota Timberwolves.
A welcome trade from San Antonio had landed him with the T-wolves on Oct. 29, but just as Udrih prepared to stay afloat in the Land of 10,000 Lakes, he was cut. Set free, really.
"My agent told me I'd have to fly to Minnesota the next day," said Udrih, who signed a one-year contract with the Kings for the league minimum of $826,046. "He had called the general manager or somebody (in the Timberwolves' front office), and he said, 'Yeah, we want to see what Beno is going to bring to the table.'
"And then, 10 minutes later, they waived me."
Udrih sought a setting in which playing time would be plentiful and compe ion minimal, and Minnesota obviously was not it. At point guard, the T-wolves had the well-respected Randy Foye, the seventh overall draft pick in 2006; Sebastian Telfair, the 13th overall pick of the 2004 draft with plenty to play for; and established veteran reserve Marko Jaric.
Udrih, who spent so much of his first three seasons dreaming of big minutes with the Spurs while playing behind Tony Parker and, in the later years, Jacque Vaughn, was concerned.
"They had a bunch of guards … so I was really not sure about going (to Minnesota)," Udrih said. "I was not happy about that trade. But still, it was a young team, and I just told myself that they were going to need some players. That's what I was telling myself.
"Ten minutes later, my agent says they waived me."
The outcome, of course, has fallen largely in Udrih's favor. Minnesota enters Arco Arena tonight with the second-worst record in the NBA (12-48), unable to know how different things would have been if Udrih had stayed.
The day after the Timberwolves waived Udrih, they learned Foye had a stress reaction in his kneecap. Foye missed the season's first 43 games. Ironically, Timberwolves vice president of basketball operations Kevin McHale told Minnesota media that his questions about Udrih's durability were a factor in his decision to cut the guard.
"When you do your investigation, I guess the biggest concern I had was that (San Antonio) really felt that, injury-wise, he had been hurt quite a bit," McHale said. "You're (thinking), Well, we've got unknowns right now (on the roster). I don't think we were in a situation where we were willing to bring in two unknowns. We already had Sebastian here."
Meanwhile, Udrih has played well enough in Sacramento to earn a nickname. "The Tasmanian Slovenian," so named by Kings television personality and team director of player personnel Jerry Reynolds, has been on quite a tear in the last five games.
In that span, Udrih has averaged 22.6 points and 5.8 assists while shooting 56.5 percent from the field and continuing to prove himself. When the Kings traded Bibby to Atlanta on Feb. 16, Udrih's emergence was no small part of the equation.
His impending free agency this summer meant the Kings would most certainly lose Udrih if Bibby had remained, and Udrih's early play had intrigued the Kings' front office more than enough to warrant a closer look at the situation.
And it appears Udrih, 25, could be here for years to come. This summer, the Kings will be in a position to offer part or all of their midlevel exception (approximately $6 million) to retain Udrih. The chance the Kings gave him after his 10-minute Minnesota stay, Udrih said, will not be forgotten.
"This is the team that gave me an opportunity to show myself," he said. "I'm really happy here. I like it. We'll see what comes at the end."
http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/767573.html
I know Spurs fans do not want to hear it but many Kings fans really like Beno alot.
"They had a bunch of guards … so I was really not sure about going (to Minnesota)," Udrih said. "I was not happy about that trade. But still, it was a young team, and I just told myself that they were going to need some players. That's what I was telling myself.What an underachiever. Guy doesn't want to compete for his spot.
I LOVE hearing that.
It means Beno isn't coming back to the Spurs!
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Who cares what he wanted? That's what he was being paid to do.
How was he used for teaching? Pop wanted him to come in and play with energy, hustle, and get the team into their offense. Now, maybe that was asking far too much, but I don't think so.
I dont think anyone wants to be in a "position" of paying Beno paying 6m per. The thought alone is scary.
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