Suns think something smells in San Antonio

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I'.

Whos the lady in the picture?

[JMarkJohns]

Kerr = dumbest GM in recent history with Suns

D'Antoni's sold draft picks and signings of Piatkowski, Marks and Banks beg to differ. I've seen Tucker in college and I think he's got good potential if developed. I've seen Strawberry play very well in actual NBA games. Those two picks of Kerr's already trump any D'Antoni pick, largely because there never was a D'Antoni pick. They were always traded. Plus, Hill was a great signing for production and cost. Infinitely better than Banks, Piatkowski or Marks have been. , even Skinner has performed well when given the minutes. You may bring up the trades of Jones, Thomas and Marion for nothing, nothing and Shaq, but of the three, the only move that was Kerr's was the Shaq trade. Yes, it appears bad, but I give him credit for making the bold move. They were going to win as they were assembled. Something had to be done.

Whatever his flaws, Kerr is far and away the better GM twixt he and D'Antoni.

That's the sad part. He's that much better and the Suns are still effed!

[JMarkJohns]

Whos the lady in the picture?

Kat Von D of L.A. Ink and Miami Ink fame...

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Kat Von D of L.A. Ink and Miami Ink fame...

Interesting her parents were both born in Argentina before moving to Mexico.

[JMarkJohns]

What we're saying is that he looks stupid for mentioning a player that CAN'T be waived, mean for mentioning a player that wasn't involved in the dispute, and he looks like a for griping about it when it just sounds lame. His team is in a tail-spin and it looks like an odd combination of sour-grapes and a scape-goat.

I get what your saying. Now, get what I'm saying. Had he never brought another player into the discussion, your point would be moot, therefore my point trumps your point. He should have stuck to Barry and San Antonio. Was it sour grapes? Probably, but like I've said, on the surface, it's fairly simple to connect the dots and come away with this line of thought. I've seen articles in this same forum that celebrated the likelihood of Barry returning once waived since he never cleaned out his Spurs locker. I don't get why it's so hard to admit he, at least on the surface, has a point. Did he need to talk about it? No. Was he most likely answering a question asked of him? Yes. I'm not going to fault a GM for having a valid point then voicing it.

However, he should have kept it simple and left the unaffiliated players out of it. Such, like you said, made him look stupid and petty.

[JMarkJohns]

But whatever, I guess I'm a for even thinking such...

Just don't discount Kerr. Not that it was you or ChumpDumper, but that's as stupid and petty as anything Kerr said. Maybe more so...

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think there's anything wrong with that second quote of yours. Connect the dots. It's hard not to think such.

It's fine for message board fodder. I personally expect more from NBA general managers.

Again, I don't fault Barry for passing on the Suns or Rockets in favor of the Spurs. Not one bit. But I also don't fault Kerr for saying Barry from San Antonio to Seattle by way of a former Spurs assistant, then back to San Antonio once waived seems a little iffy. it certainly looks it on the surface and I've seen articles talking about how Barry never cleaned out his Spurs locker once traded posted in this very forum. Those posts were practically celebrated, but when an outsider questions such, they are a for doing so? Come on! That doesn't add up.

Again. He's an NBA general manager who told the press just days earlier that he thought he had a good shot at getting Barry after he was waived. He was either lying then or being a about it now.

Kerr can be a for a number of reasons. In this case, I think largely for dragging an unaffiliated player into the discussion, but if you're calling him a for having an opinion on a iffy situation, then you're just looking for an excuse to dislike him.

I'm calling him stupid for bringing a player that could not be waived in Barry's stead because Barry's waiving was necessary to make the trade for Marchall possible. There never could have been a choice whether to waive Barry or Marshall at that moment because Marshall was on a different NBA team. It was flat out stupid to mention him, not y.

Not every one-time Spur can be Elliott.

I'm not saying you have to celebrate what he's said, or even agree with it, but if having an opinion on a topic makes you a , then every poster in every forum in all the world is one.

I don't disagree with that characterization. We just don't choose to do it on a national media stage when we clearly do not have to.

I actually have a pretty high opinion of the guy on the whole, but in this situation Kerr came off as a stupid, inept . You won't change my mind about this.

[MajorMike]

Kerr can be a for a number of reasons. In this case, I think largely for dragging an unaffiliated player into the discussion, but if you're calling him a for having an opinion on a iffy situation, then you're just looking for an excuse to dislike him.

Completely disagree. Did he not tell the press he thought the Suns had a great chance at getting Barry, then turned around and show his vagina when he is says it was a pre-arrainged deal (i.e. the Suns never actually HAD a shot at signing him)?

You can have your opinion about a situation and be all good; if he would have left it at that, made some statement (as Pop did) that something didn't seem completely correct about the situation and it would be nice if we had a trade board to look into such matters, then he could have gotten his point across (as Pop did) without looking like a complete hoo-hoo. However his opinion turned personal and included an erroneous statement and an accusation of wrongdoing based upon that erroneous statement. That is what, in fact, makes him a in this situation.

Moral of the story:
If you can't handle the media, don't open your yap.

[Slydragon]

Kerr is to white for Phoenix that hot Sun has baked his brain stupid.

[timvp]

However, the above comment and any like it are just hogwash. Not only did Kerr save your asses in 2002-03 in a hadful of crucial games

...

I mean, what the is a matter with you people? You may have lost to the freakin' Nets in 02-03 without Kerr.

Oh my gosh, The Legend of Steve Kerr has even started to spread to fans of other teams. See what you started with all your make believe fairy tale crap, whottt.

For the record, Kerr hit seven shots that entire playoff run. To put it in Suns perspective, he hit one-third of the amount of shots James Jones hit last season in the playoffs. And as you know, the Suns were eliminated in the second round.

Only one game did Kerr "save their ass" and even in that game, that phrase would be more appropriate to describe what Stephen Jackson and Malik Rose did. Against the Nets, Kerr was basically a non-factor. In one game he played after the Spurs were already up and hit a few shots. In another game, he played, sucked and the Spurs fell into a hole.

But I guess it's too late now that the disease is starting to spread to other teams . . .





P.S.

Kerr is probably smelling the river.

[Holt's Cat]

It was Jack and Malik who brought the Spurs back in Game 6 of that series. Kerr only had that opportunity thanks to those two.

The thing I find amusing is that most Spurs fans reference DRob cheering on the sidelines as the Spurs came back and closed out that series on their way to their second trip to the NBA finals. Why was he on the bench, Spurs fans?

Malik and Jack were the unsung heroes of the '03 le run, yet so much of the glory seems to find its way to easily the most undeserving player on the team. San Antonio's love affair with Steve Kerr when compared with his actual performance as a San Antonio Spur makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[Harry Callahan]

Kerr is smelling the mass amounts of Methane gas his new 330 pound center is soooooo very capable of producing. Not to mention the crappy play on the floor by the Suns.

The Spurs obsession in Phoenix continues.

[GSH]

Kerr should be getting a personal call from David Stern over this one. It's one thing to question a trade, it's another to come right out and say that the Spurs broke the rules. Besides slandering Holt, Popovich, Presti, and Barry, he is questioning the validity of the league. And that is almost as dangerous as the referee scandal.

Any team that really wanted Barry could have claimed him off waivers, just for paying his contract. He could have belonged to the Suns, with no possibility of going back to the Spurs. If Cur is upset that Barry isn't wearing a Suns jersey, he has only himself to blame.

Once Barry cleared waivers, he was free to sign with any team that made him an offer. If you had a choice between the Spurs' organization, and playing for a couple of pricks like Kerr and D'Antoni, which would you choose? (And if it's a question of getting another ring, getting rid of Marion and bring in Shaq didn't help things either.) Why would Cur think his winning personality was going to be enough to bring Barry to the Suns, after the way he talked about the Spurs over the last couple of years?

This latest outburst could make it harder for Kerr to get players in the future too. He courted Barry, but when Barry didn't sign he publicly accused him of cheating. I think it's important to call a spade a spade. The back-door deal that Kerr says took place would have required Barry to participate in the collusion. Why would any player accept a personal recruiting visit from Kerr after this?

[gospursgojas]

Kerr should be getting a personal call from David Stern over this one. It's one thing to question a trade, it's another to come right out and say that the Spurs broke the rules. Besides slandering Holt, Popovich, Presti, and Barry, he is questioning the validity of the league. And that is almost as dangerous as the referee scandal.

Any team that really wanted Barry could have claimed him off waivers, just for paying his contract. He could have belonged to the Suns, with no possibility of going back to the Spurs. If Cur is upset that Barry isn't wearing a Suns jersey, he has only himself to blame.

Once Barry cleared waivers, he was free to sign with any team that made him an offer. If you had a choice between the Spurs' organization, and playing for a couple of pricks like Kerr and D'Antoni, which would you choose? (And if it's a question of getting another ring, getting rid of Marion and bring in Shaq didn't help things either.) Why would Cur think his winning personality was going to be enough to bring Barry to the Suns, after the way he talked about the Spurs over the last couple of years?

This latest outburst could make it harder for Kerr to get players in the future too. He courted Barry, but when Barry didn't sign he publicly accused him of cheating. I think it's important to call a spade a spade. The back-door deal that Kerr says took place would have required Barry to participate in the collusion. Why would any player accept a personal recruiting visit from Kerr after this?

Can't stop laughing @ your sig!

[temujin]

Kerr is as connected to the Spurs as Presti.
While Presti is not harming Seattle significantly with the Thomas trade,
sending Marion to Miami for the ghost of Schiachillo
only makes sense for opposing teams.
Specifically, the Spurs.

After the Gasol "trade", I had called upon Popovich to activate his links.
Whom he has aplenty.

He did.

It's just unclear who worked out better.

[Sec24Row7]

Kerr is a for trying to get Duncan Suspended after game 4 of the WCF last year for a non factor play.

Other than that he can say what he wants... but that was a Bush league move on his part last year to compare Duncan leaving the bench when Cisco fell to Amare and Boris leaving after Nash got shot.

[Supreme_Being]

Suns think something smells in San Antonio? Don't they always do?

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

haha after nash got shot....

[Budkin]

Boo Hoo Suns are done and have gone back to whining.

[carina_gino20]

On the other hand, I can say without a doubt that there was NOT an altercation going on.

There wasn't anything close to a "heated confrontation" between two players.

That's why he's a tool for even suggesting that Timmy should have been suspended.

[carina_gino20]

I wonder what Pop has to say about this. But CIA Pop won't likely be giving us sound bites anytime soon.

[CarefreeAZ]

What? Something smells in San Antonio? Check the Riverwalk. I think Suns Fans are going to be throwing D'Antoni in there after the season.

[J.T.]

There may have been some behind-closed-doors talks between the Spurs and Barry, there may not have been. But the fact of the matter is there are teams out there that are contending right now in the west, and they could have claimed Barry off waivers. And they didn't. Then there are teams like Golden State and Dallas that could have offered Barry a decent deal and didn't because they want to save trade exemptions or capspace for free agency. If he went to Phoenix he would have cost them mucho dinero in lux tax because they took on Fat Shaq's contract.

And then there's the reverse of this situation. I'm sure Brent and his agent discussed all the options and decided coming home to San Antonio was the best financially and would give him a decent chance at competing for another championship. So if there was no collusions between the Spurs and Brent, and he simply didn't want to trade in his Spurs for a first or second round exit, then big ing deal.

[CaptainLate]

yea, Kwame Brown for Gasol has got to be the most shady deal I've seen in a while..lol

This trade took the whole damn league by surprise...even the pundits.

Had other teams known Gasol was up for grabs, Memphis could have rcvd a ton better in compensation. That's why Pop said what he said about the trade committee. It just didn't make sense.

This fish smelled from the git go.

[Supreme_Being]

Sorry PHX fans. Time to go .