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Exactly why we voted for Hillary...IN THE PRIMARY. Thanks for making the point.
The only way I see it a good thing for republicans and non-aligned conservatives to vote for Hillary is to take the democrat party into chaos. If Hillary wins the total delegate count, but Obama has a lead with the pledged delegates... The will hit the fan!
Exactly why we voted for Hillary...IN THE PRIMARY. Thanks for making the point.
Wait...so did any Republican on this forum actually vote for Hillary? Anyone know someone who is a Republican that did?
I do....found out today that my wife's stepmother did it. Personally, I think she's an idiot.
Well, I'm a Libertarian that typically votes Republican in national elections and I (as did my wife) voted for Hillary. I almost slipped in the vomit of all the Republicans that had done the same earlier in the day.
Well Conservoid, I hope you sleep better at night knowing you betrayed your party and voted for the Antichrist.
Wow...
Okay, just trying to figure out how widespread this phenomenon is....getting a relative sampling.
Just curious, and in all seriousness, would you rather have Obama or Hillary in the White House?
Because it seems like an awefully big risk if she happens to use the win in Texas to vault her to the nomination and ends up beating McCain in the general....if you despise her.
A calculated risk, but a big one nonetheless.
I'd rather have Clinton than Obama but, I don't think there's anyway in she beats McCain...especially since she's starting with a 49% negative and almost as many Democrats as Republicans can't stand her.
How'd I betray my party? I voted for the Democrat most likely to lose in November.
And, the anti-Christ is supposed to be charismatic.
Considering how well Obama caucused in Texas, I'd say there were quite few Republicans that cast their vote for Hillary but just couldn't stomach the thought of actually caucusing for her...
I guess you sit in a pretty good situation then. If the "worst case scenario" comes to pass, you could still live with the fact that the democrat you potentially helped secure the party nomination on her way to the White House was the lesser of two evils.
I do disagree with you about Hillary's chances if she is the Dem nominee. As much negative feeling as there is about Hillary, I think there's equal or more negative feeling about the Republican party.
You can't attribute ALL of the overwhelming Dem primary voter turnout to Obama can you?
I think McCain probably has a BETTER chance against Hillary, but I wouldn't call it a slam dunk.
Laura Ingraham had people calling in all day who said they did exactly that. I doubt it had any real effect. However, maybe I am not giving Limbaugh enough credit.
Well, that was Limbaugh's defense today. He said that if McCain can start the presidential campaign with 49% of the electorate already against the other candidate, he might actually win.
I should also probably clarify the "idiot" statement about my wife's stepmother...
I don't think everyone that did this is an "idiot", but I know her to be one...so this fits right in line with her thinking.
For example, there was little risk for Yoni to do it because he'd actually prefer Hillary to Obama if a Dem is elected. I doubt that is the same sentiment for many of the others that decided to do this...given all of the "negatives" she has on the Republican side.
I don't listen to Rush and, possibly, there were many of us that reached the same conclusion, independently.
I have no doubt that's true. It seems like an obvious tactic if the strategy is to throw the Democratic primary into chaos. However, I do think Rush was the most visible supporter the tactic.
Voted Ron Paul, and it felt damn good to do it. Screw Hillary.
If we were gonna ban gay marriage, ban marriage between dittoheads and Yonivores.
Naturally the Re-Ku-Klux-Klan party doesn't want Hilary or Obama to win. It'd be their worst nightmare having a woman or a "colored" person be president because it might lead to, god forbid, women and African-American becoming more active in terms of participating in society and acquiring more power and influence, and as the Republicans' favorite philosopher Adolf Hitler said, "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms."
If it looks like Obama or Hilary are about to win the presidency over McCain, I bet Pat Robertson and his buddies David Duke and Trent Lott and the rest of the women-and-nigg_r-hating Republicans hire a hitter to take them out Obama and justify it afterwards by quoting a Bible verse or three and/or Hitler: "I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator." Wonder how Condoleeza feels having to constantly watch her back.
It's a shame a good guy like John McCain has to associate with such s .
It's not their sex or race that is the drawback. Besides, there are blacks and women in the Republican Party, some of whom would be welcome contenders for the party's nomination. The first two that come to mind are Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice. Granted, both have fallen out of favor but not because of their race or sex. And, the reasons Obama and Clinton aren't at the top of Republicans' list of desirable candidates is because of their ideology, not their biology.
But, your post does illustrate the reason Republicans want the Clinton/Obama show to continue for as long as possible. Clinton can say the same things Republicans would be saying about Obama and not get painted as a racist. Obama can do likewise and not be painted as a sexist. Republicans can sit and watch the show.
Well, there's a mouthful.
Do you really think Colin Powell has fallen that far out of favor? I agree that Condi is too closely aligned with Bush in the eyes of the voters, but I didn't think Powell was seen in that same manner.
I was talking about with Republicans, not with the general population. I would agree with you that Powell is viewed more favorably among Democrats now that he's out of the administration. But, Rice is walking a hard road in that she's viewed as a Bush acolyte by the Left and is viewed with disdain by the right for the way she's conducted affairs at State.
I hate again to attempt to confuse your discussion with actual facts but the majority of Republicans who voted in the Texas Democratic primary voted for Obama- not Clinton. The Republicans did not help her win Texas- they actually made her margin of victory smaller.
On what do you base your assertion?
Because, the way I see it; the proof is in the Caucus. Obama did well in the caucus because the Republicans that voted in the Democratic Primary didn't show up for the Caucus. That means Hillary's showing in the Primary election is largely due to the Republicans that held their noses and voted for her.
Sure, there were many Republicans voting for Obama but, Hillary took the Primary election because of the Republicans that voted for her.
Phat Tony, 6 or half a dozen... take your pick. They're really pretty much the same on the issues. They have slightly different ideas on how to get to the same end.
I think either one of them would be a disaster.
I would agree. I don't think Powell is perceived as being all that closely aligned with Bush. He bailed after the first term, and was long rumored to be not entirely on board with the administrations policies.
Actually, I think it's more along the line of old money families, who are so greedy, they want to rule the world, that have ed the U.S.Old white rich men have ed up the USA. Electing another one will guarantee more of the same elite-enriching bull .
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