Suns playing best half of ball since trade

[LazinessThievery]

The Mavs aren't losing because the Kidd trade was a fatal mistake. Chris Paul hung 25 and 16 on Devin Harris tonight. He hung 33 and 12 on Devin back in December when Devin was wearing blue and white. Deron Williams put 17 and 20 assists on us on Monday, but he got 41 points on Devin in December. And I notice DeSagana Diop could only get 11 minutes of burn when the Hornets have Tyson Chandler (an offensive threat with Paul feeding him) and David West.

We're losing because Josh Howard is A) not 100% because of a back injury and B) dealing with some personal off the court. His performance has gotten so bad that most of the people around the team feel Dallas is better off shutting him down so he can get right physically and mentally because he's hurting his team by playing. That's taking into account that Dallas needs to start getting some W's and putting some distance between themselves and the Warriors/Nuggets. They made that trade thinking they were getting a "Big Three" of Dirk, Howard and Kidd, but right now they're only a two-man team. And with Howard playing the worst ball of his five-year career, they gave the Lakers and Spurs everything they could handle on the road.

We laid a giant turd last night against Houston, but we're better than that. I'm certainly not going to lay money that we'll go on to win a le, but this team isn't going out meekly.

How lame.

DAL with Kidd = 4-5, averaging 100 ppg given up
DAL with Harris = 30-13, averaging 96 ppg given up
DAL with Harris out and Terry starting at PG = 5-5

DAL's D and W-L is worse with Kidd than it was with Harris, but hey, just conveniently ignore that.

As for the pathetic excuse about about Howard's back, Yao isn't just injured, he has been OUT for 5 games yet the Rockets are 5-0 without him and were 12-0 before he went down so THEY DIDN'T MISS A BEAT when he went down, they nutted up and kept going. Bynum isn't just injured, he has been OUT since mid-January, yet the Lakers are 19-7 since he went down including going 16-2 since the start of Feb., and went 11-1 in the 12 games before he went down, so they stumbled a bit after he went down but then they nutted up and got back on track. Yet somehow the Mavs can use Howard having a back injury as a legitimate excuse for going 4-5 the last 9 games. Right.

And funny how Mavs fans make excuses when things aren't going their way, e.g. "Oh the refs/commissioner/God/your mom are conspiring against us", "Oh but our so and so player has been playing injured", "Oh Bruce Bowen is such a bully" (said with a limp wrist), or "Oh my vulva."

It's never, "We choked big-time in the finals two years ago, and last year in the 1st-round, we admit it," or "Who cares if Bowen plays physical against us, we need to stop crying like little pansies about it and take it," or "Who cares if we've got someone injured, the rest of the guys need to step up. We're a veteran team," or "The Kidd trade sucked, we admit it." It's never owning up and taking responsibility for how things are going. It's always someone else's fault. From the owner down to the players down to its fans, DAL is the spoiled little brat of the NBA, whining and making excuses whenever something doesn't go the Mavs' way. Pathetic.

[monosylab1k]

How lame.

DAL with Kidd = 4-5, averaging 100 ppg given up
DAL with Harris = 30-13, averaging 96 ppg given up
DAL with Harris out and Terry starting at PG = 5-5

DAL's D and W-L is worse with Kidd than it was with Harris, but hey, just conveniently ignore that.

As for the pathetic excuse about about Howard's back, Yao isn't just injured, he has been OUT for 5 games yet the Rockets are 5-0 without him and were 12-0 before he went down so THEY DIDN'T MISS A BEAT when he went down, they nutted up and kept going. Bynum isn't just injured, he has been OUT since mid-January, yet the Lakers are 19-7 since he went down including going 16-2 since the start of Feb., and went 11-1 in the 12 games before he went down, so they stumbled a bit after he went down but then they nutted up and got back on track. Yet somehow the Mavs can use Howard having a back injury as a legitimate excuse for going 4-5 the last 9 games. Right.

And funny how Mavs fans make excuses when things aren't going their way, e.g. "Oh the refs/commissioner/God/your mom are conspiring against us", "Oh but our so and so player has been playing injured", "Oh Bruce Bowen is such a bully" (said with a limp wrist), or "Oh my vulva."

It's never, "We choked big-time in the finals two years ago, and last year in the 1st-round, we admit it," or "Who cares if Bowen plays physical against us, we need to stop crying like little pansies about it and take it," or "Who cares if we've got someone injured, the rest of the guys need to step up. We're a veteran team," or "The Kidd trade sucked, we admit it." It's never owning up and taking responsibility for how things are going. It's always someone else's fault. From the owner down to the players down to its fans, DAL is the spoiled little brat of the NBA, whining and making excuses whenever something doesn't go the Mavs' way. Pathetic.

Hi Suns fan.

[RonMexico]

Loss is on D'Antoni

[himat]

Suns are done. But the problem is not bringing Shaq over. The problem is a phony coach that you knew, when the trade was made, that he would not give up his running up-tempo game. And Shaq simply does not fit in that game plan. IMHO, they will keep struggling while D'Antoni is at the helm there.

[1Parker1]

Get Rick Carlisle!!!

[DaDakota]

The problem is bringing Shaq over, you took away someone for Nash to pass to and added a big plodding center.

Steve Kerr screwed the pooch.

The Suns were one "Amare leaving the bench" away from winning it all last year....why screw that up.

Just mind boggling.

DD

[mattb_25]

Wow, not only are the Mavs losing because JHo is playing like he should be coming off the bench for a D-League team, but the whole team aside Dirk and Kidd are playing like a bunch of no heart pussies.. Not only that but Avery is sure doing a good job of trying to use Jet, Jho, and George as our PG and let them bring the ball up instead of our TRUE pg... The whole thing is a mess.

[endrity]

The problem is bringing Shaq over, you took away someone for Nash to pass to and added a big plodding center.

Steve Kerr screwed the pooch.

The Suns were one "Amare leaving the bench" away from winning it all last year....why screw that up.

Just mind boggling.

DD

The Suns were 2-3 with Amare in the series. How can you say that it cost them the championship. I have yet to see Phx ever feel comfortable playing the Spurs, and it wasn't happening last year either.

I think we all owe an apology to Marion. A head case he might have been, but clearely his importance to the Suns system was much much bigger than Amare's.

If you look at how Amare has scored most of his points throughout the Nash era, it's not difficult to imagine that some other elite big men like Duncan, Nowitzki, KG, Bosh, D.Howard and probably Brand, Al Jefferson could have had the same success. Clearely Amare is the best finisher of the group, but with all that spacing that the Suns system gave to him as well as the precise passes from Nash I think all those guys could have scored the way Amare has. I mean, Diaw looked Amare-ish during the 06 playoffs because he was given all of Amare's touches.

On the other hand can you give me one guy that plays like Marion in this league? I would be tempted to say Josh Howard during his best days, but they still have differences to their games. Maybe Kirilenko, but he is not as good of an outside shooter or runner as Marion is. Marion is truly an unique player and he fit perfectly in what the Suns were doing.

It really seems that Marion and Nash were the keys to the system. Now one is gone, the other has the space he needs taken away not only from another big man, but from a plodding and amazingly big man, and he is not as effective as used to be.

If all of this is correct, allow me one final opinion. This to me proves that in no way did Nash deserve the MVP of 2006. The media gave it to him, because they thought the Suns were going to suffer without Amare. They gave it to him, becase the media itself made a wrong prediction. Today we know that:
1. Nash and Marion were the keys to the system, Amare was not. As we said, with all that spacing even Diaw looked as a borderline All Star. It was wrong to think of the Suns as missing a critical piece.
2. That was one of the only cases I remember, that the MVP was not given to a guy from an elite team, but the logic of "how bad would they be without him" was used.

[nkdlunch]

wow I can't beleive it but Suns will not make playoffs. amazing

[Purple & Gold]

Why does D'Antoni still have a job??

[Xylus]

D'Antoni is done after this season. Or we can all hope.

[Findog]

DAL's D and W-L is worse with Kidd than it was with Harris, but hey, just conveniently ignore that.

Speaking of things to conveniently ignore Suns fan, Chris Paul but 25 and 16 on Devin Harris last night. He put 33 and 12 on Devin Harris in December. Deron Williams hung 41 points on Devin Harris in December. And against a team featuring David West and Tyson Chandler (a scoring threat with Chris Paul), Diop could only get 11 minutes. We held the Spurs to 97 points. We held the Lakers to 93 points in regulation. We played Utah in our fourth game in five nights. We laid a giant turd against Houston. Those things happen.

As for the pathetic excuse about about Howard's back, Yao isn't just injured, he has been OUT for 5 games yet the Rockets are 5-0 without him and were 12-0 before he went down so THEY DIDN'T MISS A BEAT when he went down, they nutted up and kept going.

Who have they played? Wizards, Grizzlies, Pacers and Nuggets at home before us.

Bynum isn't just injured, he has been OUT since mid-January, yet the Lakers are 19-7 since he went down including going 16-2 since the start of Feb., and went 11-1 in the 12 games before he went down, so they stumbled a bit after he went down but then they nutted up and got back on track.

They also stole Pau Gasol from the Grizzlies.

Yet somehow the Mavs can use Howard having a back injury as a legitimate excuse for going 4-5 the last 9 games.

Hey Suns fan, maybe you should actually try watching the Mavs sometime. Howard is actually hurting his team by playing. It would be better if he sat out.

And funny how Mavs fans make excuses when things aren't going their way, e.g. "Oh the refs/commissioner/God/your mom are conspiring against us", "Oh but our so and so player has been playing injured", "Oh Bruce Bowen is such a bully" (said with a limp wrist), or "Oh my vulva."

It's never, "We choked big-time in the finals two years ago, and last year in the 1st-round, we admit it," or "Who cares if Bowen plays physical against us, we need to stop crying like little pansies about it and take it," or "Who cares if we've got someone injured, the rest of the guys need to step up. We're a veteran team," or "The Kidd trade sucked, we admit it." It's never owning up and taking responsibility for how things are going. It's always someone else's fault. From the owner down to the players down to its fans, DAL is the spoiled little brat of the NBA, whining and making excuses whenever something doesn't go the Mavs' way.

You got sand in your vagina because your beloved Suns are circling the drain. Dallas has an easy schedule coming up, a window open for the two years after this one, while you have Shaq's contract on your books for two more years and an owner who sells off draft picks and refuses to spend money. And it isn't even Shaq that's the problem, he's playing hard and doing what he was supposed to do. It's Steve Nash that is starting to decline. Sucks to be you.

[Jeremy]

Suns fans can look forward to discussing who their team is going to draft with the 14th pick.

Yeah, if only we hadn't traded it away already (along with the 2010 pick) in order to get rid of the best Duncan-defender in the league, Kurt Thomas, who is now a Spur. Aaarrrgghhhh!!

The Suns are cursed...