Lakers lost

[JamStone]

nice takes findog and jamstone.


jamstone, how do you feel about the Pistons chances against the celtics and cavs?

I really think the Pistons handle the Celtics if the two teams meet. I think they're about equal in talent and chemistry. Pistons can cover all three of their stars one on one with little or no double team help. That's big. In fact, the two games the Pistons lost, it was their role players that were the main difference in the Boston wins, Glen Davis in the second game and Rajon Rondo in the third (although KG really came out and played too). In the playoffs, I think the Pistons play better against those role players and/or those role players don't hurt the Pistons as much. I don't think not having homecourt will hurt the Pistons because I believe they would win one of the first two games in Boston. They know how to come strong on the road in the post season.

Cavaliers is a different story. I think the Pistons have a much better team than the Cavaliers. But, honestly, if I'm being real, LeBron James is ing ridiculous. He literally can beat the Pistons in a playoff series by himself. So, I got no idea. I would believe the Pistons should beat the Cavs in a series, but dude is crazy, so who the knows. Got nothing to do with other match-ups or coaching or strategy or homecourt or anything else. It comes down to whether LeBron in four of seven games can beat the Pistons by himself. He's obviously capable.

[Findog]

Kidd has turned Dampier into a stud.

If Maglore can provide decent backup minutes, the Mavs are one Josh Howard pulling his head out of his away from le contention.


Avery might be a wild card, but I don't think the Mavs are as doom/gloom as people might think.

Magloire is not going to have an impact. He's looked like garbage when he's played, and given how tight the West is, Avery isn't going to give him any burn to shake off any rust. Malik Allen has actually been a pleasant surprise, and Antoine Wright has looked pretty good too.

I'm pretty sure Josh will come around. I think we should sit him for the next four games since we can win those without him. He needs to get his back healed up and his mind right. The Spurs survived with Vaughn running the point for a few weeks, the Rockets are surviving for now without Yao. Josh is hurting us when he does play.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

My josh howard comment may have been a little harsh, seeing as how he's been through a lot emotionally over the last few weeks.

And yeah, Antoine Wright's name seems to have been popping up recently, the question is, will Avery not be stubborn enough to give him more minutes?

[Findog]

I would love to see a Pistons/Celts conference finals, and it would go seven in my opinion. I'd give a slight edge to Detroit. But they have to get there first. Overall, you look at them and the Cavaliers and you scratch your heads over how Cleveland could take a 65-win team to seven games and then beat them the next year, but LBJ can do that by himself, like Jamstone said. LBJ just gives the Pistons fits. I think it's worth it for Detroit to strive for the top seed and hope Boston takes care of the King for them.

[Findog]

My josh howard comment may have been a little harsh, seeing as how he's been through a lot emotionally over the last few weeks.

And yeah, Antoine Wright's name seems to have been popping up recently, the question is, will Avery not be stubborn enough to give him more minutes?

He got minutes last night because Devean got hurt, and that's fine by me. He's by no means a Bowen-level Kobe stopper, but his rep is that he can defend. Does Kobe go off for 52 if he had been on him in crunchtime instead of Jerry Brickhouse?

[SpursDynasty]

Thanks Sacramento for going out there and beating a team you were supposed to beat....the Lakers pretty much had no business being the #1 seed in the West. We're tied in the loss column with LA and regardless of them having 1 more win, for all practical purposes the Spurs are the #1 seed b/c they hold the tiebreaker (lead the season series 2-1).

Once again, no big surprises in this one tonight, the Kings just went out and beat a team they were supposed to beat.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I was more amazed you guys didn't double Kobe, but then again.....it is Kobe


As for Celts/Pistons that's a really tough one.


I think the difference will be the bench in that series as you already know what you're gonna with the starters, for the most part.

I think this is the deepest the Pistons have been in years. It would be an excellent series, but if Wallace can keep Garnett in check, and Rondo doesn't go off (I see him as an x-factor for the celts) I think the Pistons could take it.

The thing is, the Celtics have a lot of young players who lack playoff experience. While playoff experience doesn't always guarantee the le, I could very easily see the Big Baby, Rondo's, and Leon powe's of the world making bonehead plays.

[Findog]

Thanks Sacramento for going out there and beating a team you were supposed to beat....the Lakers pretty much had no business being the #1 seed in the West. We're tied in the loss column with LA and regardless of them having 1 more win, for all practical purposes the Spurs are the #1 seed b/c they hold the tiebreaker (lead the season series 2-1).

Once again, no big surprises in this one tonight, the Kings just went out and beat a team they were supposed to beat.

Talking out of both sides of your mouth...literally.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

lol, timvp already said his IP matches with DazedandConfused, yet SD still denies this.

[Findog]

I was more amazed you guys didn't double Kobe, but then again.....it is Kobe

Yeah. You know in crunchtime he's going to be looking for his shot and he's the guy most likely to hurt you, so you trap him and get the ball out of his hands, right? This isn't quantum mechanics.

There's the theory that you let great guys like Kobe get theirs and stay home on everybody else, but that doesn't always work.

I would go single-coverage on Kobe in the first-half, when he's trying to be the distributor and get everyone involved. When guys know they're going to get their touches, they raise their intensity and hustle in all factors. When they come down the floor and watch Kobe go 1 on 5, they're not going to be as active. Then in the second half and crunchtime when Kobe takes over, then I trap and double him, and make sure my rotations are crisp and solid. Easier said than done, of course, but Kobe was hot even by his standards that day, and you have to make the adjustment.

[DazedAndConfused]

That's bull Amusedayssleeper. TimVP NEVER said that, and if he did he is ing bull ting.

What is your paypal? If you can give me definitive proof that our IPs are similar I will send you $100. In fact I will send ANYONE who can definitively prove that $100.

[JamStone]

Won't even lie. If the Pistons don't contain Rajon Rondo and his ability to get in the lane and if they allow Kendrick Perkins and Glen Davis (if he even plays significant minutes in the playoffs) to dominate the glass, then the Celtics should beat the Pistons. I'm hoping and betting that the Pistons do a better on those two particular players once it's the playoffs. If not, at least two of the three main guys should play well enough to make it pretty hard for the Pistons to win.

[DazedAndConfused]

BTW the Lakers did not once go to Kobe down the stretch except on the very last play. Gasol, Odom, and Fisher all hit some big shots down the stretch, as did Vujacic. If you think you can just double Kobe and forget everyone else your wrong.

We lost tonight because our interior D is e with Gasol manning the fort. When Bynum gets back the Benos of the world will think twice before attacking the paint with such ferocity.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

D&C = search is down, but timvp definitely said TODAY that you and SD were the same.




Findog = Good strategy. The thing is, Kobe faced a strong double team/trap at the end of the Kings game tonight and was still able to get a decent shot off. I think his elevation is what separates him from the rest, as he pretty much out jumps whoever is guarding him. I thought Tayshaun Prince used to do a good jobe on Kobe (at least back in 2004) as players with length seem to bug him. I always wondered how a Haslem or other long 3 would fare against Kobe, but I guess he is too quick for them.

I still say you trap him hard and force the ball out of his hands. I would much rather Gasol flub a layup, then Kobe hit a buzzer beater.


But like we said, it's all easier said than done.

[ludda]

When it's all said and done, Lakers will go to Kobe down the stretch that's obvious. The only other one that is clutch on that team is Fischer, maybe the spares can hit a clutch shot now and then, but we've all seen how Odom fares down the stretch and from that Mavs game, Gasol wasn't much better in the clutch with the easy layup misses, FT miss and timely foul on Kidd.

Mavs have always had trouble with elite guards like Kobe, same thing happened with Wade. They let them get whatever they want and end up losing- so yeah, I'd say Avery should try something new or it'll be the same story in the POs.

[Tradition]

Another Lakers thread=another from me. In the Rock type of saying:


FINALLY! THE LAKERS HAVE RETURNED AS THE EVIL EMPIRE!

[DazedAndConfused]

D&C = search is down, but timvp definitely said TODAY that you and SD were the same.




Findog = Good strategy. The thing is, Kobe faced a strong double team/trap at the end of the Kings game tonight and was still able to get a decent shot off. I think his elevation is what separates him from the rest, as he pretty much out jumps whoever is guarding him. I thought Tayshaun Prince used to do a good jobe on Kobe (at least back in 2004) as players with length seem to bug him. I always wondered how a Haslem or other long 3 would fare against Kobe, but I guess he is too quick for them.

I still say you trap him hard and force the ball out of his hands. I would much rather Gasol flub a layup, then Kobe hit a buzzer beater.


But like we said, it's all easier said than done.

TimVP if you are reading this and you made the statement that me and SD have the same IP you are a ing lying piece of . Pretty sad for a moderator to be LYING.

[Findog]

TimVP if you are reading this and you made the statement that me and SD have the same IP you are a ing lying piece of . Pretty sad for a moderator to be LYING.

timvp is just making allegations of IP chicanery that's he supposed to allege. No surprises there.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

TimVP if you are reading this and you made the statement that me and SD have the same IP you are a ing lying piece of . Pretty sad for a moderator to be LYING.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...89#post2308589




He pretty much called you out.

[DazedAndConfused]

That's him ASSuming that I am SD based on what other s said. He has no proof that our IPs are similar. In fact for a moderator to make baseless claims like that is pathetic, he is a ing joke. TimVP you are a ing joke, if you cant prove it then shut the up.

[Findog]

SpursDynasty/DazedandConfused should challenge timvp to a duel.

[Tradition]

So he is a fan of the Lakers,Spurs, and Warriors?

[spurms]

That's him ASSuming that I am SD based on what other s said. He has no proof that our IPs are similar. In fact for a moderator to make baseless claims like that is pathetic, he is a ing joke. TimVP you are a ing joke, if you cant prove it then shut the up.

pls cool it dont let this painful lost to a mediocre team get you ban..

[Amuseddaysleeper]

So he is a fan of the Lakers,Spurs, and Warriors?

He also really likes the Celtics, and thinks Rayford Alston is a premiere PG

[spurms]

He also really likes the Celtics, and thinks Rayford Alston is a premiere PG

i came up with that name Rayford, i guess people find something funny.