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    The Spurs are losing because they traded Francisco Elson

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    PS: Would have been nice if the addition of Kurt Thomas had lead to a win over the Suns...pretty much the entire reason he was brought here.

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    We are better off with Kurt Thomas than Elson, that cannot be debated one bit.

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    I hate Kurt Thomas
    I love Kurt Thomas
    I hate Kurt Thomas

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    Elson will pay for that owning he gave me, even if it means getting blown out by every elite team in the Western Conference.

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    Would have been nice if the addition of Kurt Thomas had lead to a win over the Suns...pretty much the entire reason he was brought here.
    He can't keep Manu from shooting stupid threes, nor guard Nash at the perimiter.

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    Too bad that owning only lasted one game of his Spurs career. I would have gladly been owned if it meant David Robinson, Jr. joined the club.

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    But since he's not a getting a great deal of minutes...he cannot be held responsible for our current ineffective play.
    Holy crap. Did whottt just use the Beno Excuse to defend Robert Horry?

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    Ahhh so it's Manu and an inability to guard Nash that is the problem now....excuse me for not noticing that being the major issue the last two times we have beaten them in the post season, and the 7 or 8 times we've beaten them during the last two regular seasons.



    So in summary, we can't beat the Suns because:

    1. Manu
    2. We can't guard Steve Nash.

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    It's the guys not playing and that are no longer here causing us to lose games, not their replacements


    I get it...I just don't like it.

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    Ahhh so it's Manu and an inability to guard Nash that is the problem now....excuse me for not noticing that being the major issue the last two times we have beaten them in the post season, and the 7 or 8 times we've beaten them during the last two regular seasons.



    So in summary, we can't beat the Suns because:

    1. Manu
    2. We can't guard Steve Nash.

    That was the reason at the end of the last game.

    Don't let your childish hatred of Kurt Thomas get in the way though.

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    You've said he sucked before too mr high and mighty

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    Yeah but I'm not the one saying he sucks when he's not getting minutes to suck...



    And I know you value rebounds per/48 over actual wins...but I don't see any value there.

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    Holy ...I can't believe I'm actually taking the time to argue with someone that considers Finley's post season last year as being clutch.

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    No I value stats like 13 against Denver

    and 8 and whatever against Phoenix

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    We're not as good this year(edit - with Thomas and Stoudamire) as we were at this time last year(edit - with Elson, Vaughn and Barry).

    Argue with him.............

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    Talk about pulling things out of nowhere.

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    Here's what I don't understand about Robert Horry;
    In years past, even if his shot wasn't falling, his off the charts basketball IQ usually helped the team in terms of +- which made him worthwhile to have on the court. Whether it would be a smart defensive play, rebound, charge, etc. His basketball IQ from all his years of experience in playoff and big game moments was most obvious.

    However, this season, it's like he's playing like a Rookie out there. He's just laughing it up, being lazy, and just all over the place defensively and on offense. I don't understand how this has happened to a player like Horry. He looks like a joke out there.

    I know Timvp has also always appreciated his Basketball IQ, anyone else see this?
    Yup. Actually, I said the very same thing on January 30 in a thread I started called "change is in the air". I said he looked a step slow, that his ballas IQ wasn't helping him any more, and that he was done. I then got shouted down by T Park amongst others claiming that I was wrong and that it was just his regular season malaise as usual (T Park didn't use the word "malaise", though). I responded that I knew about his regular season malaise, and that it didn't look like what I'd been seeing - he just looked to slow and out of sorts to be playing in the NBA.

    Horry then went on a stretch up to the ASB when he played okay and looked more like himself, but since the ASB he has been atrocious again.

    I don't think the team can rely on him for anything any more and I think he should be dropped from the rotation. He looks like Elliot Spitzer and a $5K hooker to me - ALL OVER.

    ...none of which decreases my respect for his incredible career in any way. You still rock, Rob, just time to hang up the boots.

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    Points aren't everything. His footwork is slow, he has not been able to bumrush to the rack on one man fast breaks like he used to, and he's ending up on his ass more than ever now.

    He's just begging to get injured.
    That's not what I saw at all. He got to the rack for layups 5 or 6 times, and had at least 2 one-man fast-breaks. His jumper even looked good, although his FTs were horrible.

    Parker was not the problem last night, the entire role rotation was the problem.

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    His jumper did not look great at all. Yes he made them, but he was making jumpers before the arrival of chip engelland too you know. He was barely even jumping high for his jumpers, and his three ball was very flat, hardly any arc.

    It's becoming very apparent to me that parker's jumpshot has regressed this season, more than likely because of the time off he has had. That does not bode well for consistent playoff jumpers.

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    why all the whottt hate on K Thomas? He's had some sub par games, but for the most part I've been pretty happy with him.


    It's very nice to have a big man outside of TD who has a solid 18 footer.

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    Regarding my point on Ginobili's minutes, I don't think that Pop giving Manu around ten extra minutes per game from the end of January to the end of February was the difference between the Spurs making and not making the playoffs. Sure, if Manu's minutes were held more in check, the Spurs probably would have lost three or four more games. But now the Spurs are losing games they'd likely win if Manu were at 100%.

    The way I see it, Pop basically delayed losses by wearing Ginobili out and risking his postseason performance. I would have much rather drop some games in February and even fall a bit in the standings if it meant keeping Ginobili healthy and rested. The West is good but it's not so good that the Spurs would actually miss the playoffs ... even if they had dug themselves a hole. A rested Ginobili along with Duncan and Parker would have been able to make up any ground that would have been lost.

    Now the Spurs have a dead tired Ginobili and before this week is over, they'll probably give back whatever progress they made by playing him big minutes last month. Spurs fans now have to hope that Ginobili finds a second wind between now and the playoffs. Manu freakin' asked out of a game in the fourth quarter due to fatigue ... something I've never seen him do. Usually Manu is begging to play as many minutes as possible.

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    Regarding my point on Ginobili's minutes, I don't think that Pop giving Manu around ten extra minutes per game from the end of January to the end of February was the difference between the Spurs making and not making the playoffs. Sure, if Manu's minutes were held more in check, the Spurs probably would have lost three or four more games. But now the Spurs are losing games they'd likely win if Manu were at 100%.

    The way I see it, Pop basically delayed losses by wearing Ginobili out and risking his postseason performance. I would have much rather drop some games in February and even fall a bit in the standings if it meant keeping Ginobili healthy and rested. The West is good but it's not so good that the Spurs would actually miss the playoffs ... even if they had dug themselves a hole. A rested Ginobili along with Duncan and Parker would have been able to make up any ground that would have been lost.
    Well, I am split on that one. I agree that Manu played a lot. But if you substract 4 or 5 wins the Spurs would not even be in the POs at this point or tied with the Warriors for the 7th and 8th spot. To win games in this though West it is not easy to get wins and to rest your players at the same time. In additon to that TP (and even Barry) was hurt for 3 weeks which made it even more difficult to rest players.

    The good thing is that the schedule eases up a bit in April. So we have to hope that the Spurs find a way to maybe sit Manu a couple of games and get him ready for the playoffs.

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    Yup. Actually, I said the very same thing on January 30 in a thread I started called "change is in the air". I said he looked a step slow, that his ballas IQ wasn't helping him any more, and that he was done. I then got shouted down by T Park amongst others claiming that I was wrong and that it was just his regular season malaise as usual (T Park didn't use the word "malaise", though). I responded that I knew about his regular season malaise, and that it didn't look like what I'd been seeing - he just looked to slow and out of sorts to be playing in the NBA.

    Horry then went on a stretch up to the ASB when he played okay and looked more like himself, but since the ASB he has been atrocious again.

    I don't think the team can rely on him for anything any more and I think he should be dropped from the rotation. He looks like Elliot Spitzer and a $5K hooker to me - ALL OVER.

    ...none of which decreases my respect for his incredible career in any way. You still rock, Rob, just time to hang up the boots.
    Ah yea and timvp was leading the charge that Horry is still Horry of 2005 or 2006 ...

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