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    We could have had both. But decided we wanted Bonner instead.


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    They may have wanted V-Span out of the deal, but that'd make them even stupider than I thought.

    No, it was to save money. And not a whole lot of it.

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    And bigger and faster and puts up basically the same numbers at the age of 22 that Scola was putting up at the age of 27.

    Plus he blocks shots and IIRC shoots at a better PCT.

    Plus he was the key factor in Brazil winning the Olympics against a Duncun-plus USA and a silver at a FIBA world championship.

    Plus, of course, Splitter is prettier than Scola.

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    Plus, of course, Splitter is prettier than Scola.
    Ain't sayin' much. Splitter's plenty ugly.

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    They may have wanted V-Span out of the deal, but that'd make them even stupider than I thought.

    No, it was to save money. And not a whole lot of it.
    Believe lie if you want but it not true. If such lie you believe true Lindsey not still have job. But such thing as this to hard for Spur fan ability to understand I see.

    Like say Popovich intend draft Spanoulis instead of Udrih in first place. Parker tell Spanoulis Popovich still mad at him about this. One of reason Popovich hard on Udrih to begin with cause by Parker.

    Like say before Spur fan always choose ignore how Rocket owner say he fire Van Gundy over not play Spanoulis and compare him to Steve Nash and say Rocket managers agree. You fan should blame Spanoulis for trade happen as thing happen not Spurs manager or coach. They think Spanoulis and agent make up lie about mom be sick to force trade from Rockets.

    They think this way because such tactic American player use all time. Spanoulis mom really sick and suicidal. It not made up lie like all stupid Rocket fan say. Like stupid lie on the wikipedia say "alleged for family reason".

    I guess country of US just all like this. If believe Iraq have WMD believe anything.

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    I never believed Iraq had WMD. I knew Bush was a sucker and couldn't believe how big of idiots the American press and half its people could be. Now he's ruining the economy BIG TIME.

    But the deal was to save money.

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    The most ennoying thing is that Luis is doing exactly what some people (specially european posters) were saying he would.

    So you can't say Scola is surprising or that you couldn't expect that.
    Exactly.
    Maybe we saw some ACTUAL action of the guy?

    Or maybe because Scola -NOT Manu- was the MAN in the Olimpics final?

    It is so tedious to be right.

    What is even worse is that Spanoulis is NOT too far behind Parker by European standards.
    Get Vaughn or Stoudamire, instead.

    The gods of basketball are very unhappy about the move.
    May the Spurs NEVER meet with the Rockets.

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    How does he kwow we are talking Spanoulis?

    The man must have a program in his computer that tracks conversations on ANY site citing the guy.

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    tiago+ian+vspan "the greek tmac" = fo shizzle championship BOOK IT!!!!

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    Kill_Bill is creepy but he is right. In international play Parker and Spanoulis are very comparable. And after what you saw from Udrih everyone should know that sometimes players need a chance, and someone to support them. Brandon Bass is another example.

    VSpan didn't find that in Houston, partly because of his at ude, however I have seen him play so often you can't tell me he is not talented. Heck, the guy beat the US almost all by himself (and Greek Baby Shaq) in the World Championships. The Spurs could live with the Scola trade if they actually developed Span.

    But now they really seem like they got nothing out of the deal, except save some money for the owner which should matter very little to the ordinary fan.

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    vspan is pumping iron in europe and will come in next season and slap every american nba player

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    prophesy?? what prophecy, tons of ppl here knew scola was gonna be a hit. just look at all the Scola threads.
    exactly

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    vspan is pumping iron in europe and will come in next season and slap every american nba player
    No, but he could be better than udrih. Calderon sucked major ass his first year, and look where he is now. I guarantee you Navarro will become a legit starter if he goes to a good situation.

    You forget most of these guys play in pro teams since they are 12-13 and they are getting trained from that age to think and play like pro players do. By the time they are 19-20 they already have some big game experience. I know the Americans love the NCAA but it's not even close to the Euroleague in atmosphere and level of play.

    I am sure VSpan could be a legit backup to Parker for years to come, and maybe share a backcourt in limited minutes. I really hope he gets one more year.

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    Yah...okay, ROY. Rookie Of Yesteryear?

    Dude's gonna be 27.

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    Pop is the one who went and saw Beno play in Chicago and decided for himself how much he wanted to draft Beno. He did get Parker's input as to the fact that they had played against each other when they were younger, but Parker did not convince Pop to draft Beno instead of Spanoulis. Someone is blowing smoke.

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    Plus he was the key factor in Brazil winning the Olympics against a Duncun-plus USA and a silver at a FIBA world championship.
    Get ing serious...that's Manu show.

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    Scola?

    The Spurs could have had Josh Howard and Andres Nocioni too. Props to pro sports' best GM.


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    I can't believe how little the Scola fans know about basketball...truly amazing how new they are to the game.


    This dude has got nearly a decade of pro experience, international experience, he's at the age of what is traditionally the prime of a basketball player, the height of his skill, he's starting...and yet he's going to get beat out by a 19 year old for ROY of the year.

    And the NBA teams are only now attempting to adjust to his game...


    And it's a joke if you guys want to consider him the reason the Rockets have won 20 in a row...I guess that's means he's better than Duncan, Parker and Manu...combined, because they've never won 20 in a row.


    Jordan and Pippen never won 20 in a row.



    So I guess what you guys are saying...is that Luis Scola is the greatest player of all time...go ahead, say it(you know you want to), and then get over it.

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    Pop is the one who went and saw Beno play in Chicago and decided for himself how much he wanted to draft Beno. He did get Parker's input as to the fact that they had played against each other when they were younger, but Parker did not convince Pop to draft Beno instead of Spanoulis. Someone is blowing smoke.
    This not exact true. Like i say Parker suggest draft Udrih because he ask who is best player he play against in Europe. Question like "we want draft Euro backup point guard either Spanoulis or Udrih. You plays both which one better?"

    He say Udrih better. At time Popovich want draft Spanoulis but he change mind from when parker say Udrih better. But Parker later teall Spanoulis at dinner last summer he do this because at time as young player he not want compete with Spanoulis. He believe he better than Udrih but he have concern about Spanoulis take job.

    From how Billy tell me Parker say some way like "now I am more mature person after learn many thing from Tim Duncan and I know my place with team is secure. All thing should be just about help team win and you should really join us. Also i think if you do thing will works our much better for you and I think it will be better for you in end."

    if you want believe it lie I not care. As usual American fan act this way.

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    Udrih was a wonder boy when he was very young.
    There is no question that his fundamentals were better than parker's, specifically the long range outside shot. Not as speedy, but more sound. He could beat parker anytime in a one on one contest.
    The problem with Udrih is that he is a born looser and a rabbit.
    No wonder he is flourishing under a system where he has no responsability whatsoever.

    As for Spanoulis, he is a heck of a player that had to watch McGrady play a whole year terrible baskeball and just got mad at the american star system.
    I'd rather be first in my village than second in a city.
    I can understand that quite well.

    I don't think he will go back to the US.

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    Exactly.
    Maybe we saw some ACTUAL action of the guy?

    Or maybe because Scola -NOT Manu- was the MAN in the Olimpics final?

    like the Olympic Final was where the Gold Medal was won.

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    tiago+ian+vspan "the greek tmac" = fo shizzle championship BOOK IT!!!!
    eek, I never thought about that. That could be some scary additions to come in the future. Bad for us Rockets fans!

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    I can't believe how little the Scola fans know about basketball...truly amazing how new they are to the game.


    This dude has got nearly a decade of pro experience, international experience, he's at the age of what is traditionally the prime of a basketball player, the height of his skill, he's starting...and yet he's going to get beat out by a 19 year old for ROY of the year.

    And the NBA teams are only now attempting to adjust to his game...


    And it's a joke if you guys want to consider him the reason the Rockets have won 20 in a row...I guess that's means he's better than Duncan, Parker and Manu...combined, because they've never won 20 in a row.


    Jordan and Pippen never won 20 in a row.



    So I guess what you guys are saying...is that Luis Scola is the greatest player of all time...go ahead, say it(you know you want to), and then get over it.
    1) Scola is a very solid player thta has done very well wherever he has played.

    2) Some here PREDICTED exactly what is currently happening to his role in the NBA. You were NOT one of them.

    3) Basketball is a TEAM sport. Nobody is singularly to blame for 20 losses or to cheer for 20 wins. So he is part of it.

    4) Some of "us" are rather OLD -and experienced- to the game.

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    like the Olympic Final was where the Gold Medal was won.

    That's right.
    It's more avoiding the powerhouse of Puerto Rico in the first round.

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    1) Scola is a very solid player thta has done very well wherever he has played.

    2) Some here PREDICTED exactly what is currently happening to his role in the NBA. You were NOT one of them.



    What did I predict? Tell me...what did I predict since you speak from a position of knowledge?








    3) Basketball is a TEAM sport. Nobody is singularly to blame for 20 losses or to cheer for 20 wins. So he is part of it.

    Big deal...I'd say TMac was due since he played for a team that lost 21 in a row the year before he was traded to Houston.


    Adelman's teams have always gone on streaks like this...in particular when they lose a guy to injury. Seriously...the Kings were better without Webber than than they were with him. They got off to one of the best starts in NBA history one year when he was injured.



    4) Some of "us" are rather OLD -and experienced- to the game.


    You're not experienced if you think the Gold Medal Game in the Olympics was the big win for Argentina.


    You're not experienced if you think you can already judge this trade a success or a failure.


    There are other reasons I can point out that allude to you not being experienced but really...what is the point?

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