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Doesn't free will come into play here? While according to the doctrine of ancestral sin, men are subject to death and corruption, and even worse, a tendency to want to root for the Suns, because Adam rooted for the Suns in the Garden of Eden, men ultimately still have to make the choice to disobey God and to follow Phoenix.
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Last edited by Jobbs; 03-17-2008 at 05:38 PM.
And on the 7th game, God rested.
And on the 7th game, God rested.
and when there was 0.4 left
So...does that make Shaq the antichrist?
Quite right. The existence of evil, and Sons fans, is strong evidence of an objective good, and God. Or the fact that we fans have a strong urge that you OUGHT to root for somebody, and that switching teams is bad, etc., is the basic gist of the moral argument for God's existence. We have these "feelings" about absolute right and wrong, and we really can't shake them. Naturalism provides no answer for this.
I'll have to work on the Spurs version of the teleological argument for God's existence (the Spurs are so perfectly created and finely tuned, there must be a perfect and wise creator), the cosmological argument (from what did Tim Duncan come? well, what caused his parents? etc.), and the ontological argument.
Not really. I prefer NBA basketball.
Why should God help those that don't care?
Sure it does...we don't know "right and wrong" from birth, we learn it from our parents, teachers, and life experiences.
The Celtics won tonight because overall they played better basketball than the Spurs through 48 minutes of game time. That's it. Period.
There is no "sky referee" up there making sure justice is served, righting wrongs, rewarding the kind and caring folks, and punishing the evil people...the universe doesn't give a about any of us...life sucks, get a ing helmet.
You are a fantasy...a computer-enhanced hallucination...
(props to the first person who knows what movie that line is from)
God............................................... .help us tonight
Dude stfu with the God thing. He doesn't care about some stupid ass NBA game. Geez.
SD21 believes in God?
I thought he was the high priest of the Church of Scola.
OP is pathetic
If the Spurs had Scola (you see his playoff numbers?) the God wouldn't need to help us
SD21: Scola >>> God
Unbelievable.
SD21: Scola >>> God
Unbelievable.
LMAO @ that pathetic conclusion you jumped too
Even more pathetic than this?
is it so hard to believe?
if there is a God, that God would be a Spurs fan
Like I said before, leave it to SD21 to create the dumbest threads around.
I would say it's a bit of a false dichotomy. It is certainly possible to conceive of a world in which (a) God exists and yet (b) the Spurs fail to repeat. And how does the Spurs' success logically follow from God's existence?
And ... how did you receive this knowledge? That IF there is a God, THEN the Spurs repeat? If you got this knowledge from someone else, then how did he receive his knowledge with certainty? If you got it from God, then aren't we begging the question? How can you be so sure about your proclamation?
And last, is your axiom a timeless principle? In other words, was there not a God in 2000, 2004, and 06, when the Spurs did not repeat? If there was not a God, then how is it possible that he just comes into being if and when the Spurs repeat? And if His existence depends on the Spurs, then who controls who? Wouldn't the Spurs be God then?
I know. Questions, questions.
I expect your answers typed, double-spaced, at least pages on my desk by Monday.
Don't be surprised if he submits another emo rant instead.
What was, was. And what is, is. And what will be, will surely be.
God is The FIRST, the LAST, the EVERYTHING.....or maybe I'm confusing him with Barry White.
Hmm. You give truisms. As a believer in God, I agree.
I am curious about SD21's epistemology, however. What does he mean, and how does he know it?
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