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    1 playoff win in their history.

    Who...in any sport... has achieved less?
    First off, back when the pennant race consisted of 2 teams from each league, it was considerably tougher to even make it into the playoffs. Even in this current system, only 4 teams from each league make it. Just making it to the playoffs is a huge accomplishment in baseball.

    And they ran into a dynasty in their playoff years. Nobody was beating the Yankees those years, the Yankees went 33-7 in those 3 years the Rangers made the playoffs. Were you expecting them to do something?

    They got the end of the stick as far as drawing a playoff opponent. If they had the luck of catching the Indians or Red Sox back then, they'd easily have won a playoff series. But they caught the Yankees all 3 times.

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    First off, back when the pennant race consisted of 2 teams from each league, it was considerably tougher to even make it into the playoffs. Even in this current system, only 4 teams from each league make it. Just making it to the playoffs is a huge accomplishment in baseball.

    And they ran into a dynasty in their playoff years. Nobody was beating the Yankees those years, the Yankees went 33-7 in those 3 years the Rangers made the playoffs. Were you expecting them to do something?

    They got the end of the stick as far as drawing a playoff opponent. If they had the luck of catching the Indians or Red Sox back then, they'd easily have won a playoff series. But they caught the Yankees all 3 times.
    somehow everyone else has managed to win more than 1

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    somehow everyone else has managed to win more than 1
    Yeah I'm sure all the Royals & Pirates fans feel proud to one-up Rangers fans by bringing up their multiple playoff wins back in 1982.

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    Yeah I'm sure all the Royals & Pirates fans feel proud to one-up Rangers fans by bringing up their multiple playoff wins back in 1982.
    The fact is, they have done more than the Rangers.

    They have scoreboard...as pathetic as it is.

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    The fact is, they have done more than the Rangers.

    They have scoreboard...as pathetic as it is.
    Not really. That's about as ridiculous as Kings fans claiming scoreboard over the Mavs cuz of their le as the Rochester Royals back in 1958 or whatever.

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    Not really. That's about as ridiculous as Kings fans claiming scoreboard over the Mavs cuz of their le as the Rochester Royals back in 1958 or whatever.
    You're missing my original point...what franchise has done less?

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    You're missing my original point...what franchise has done less?
    Tampa Bay

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    The Grizzlies

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    the fact that you have to use new franchises in comparison proves my point a bit.

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    First off, back when the pennant race consisted of 2 teams from each league, it was considerably tougher to even make it into the playoffs. Even in this current system, only 4 teams from each league make it. Just making it to the playoffs is a huge accomplishment in baseball.

    And they ran into a dynasty in their playoff years. Nobody was beating the Yankees those years, the Yankees went 33-7 in those 3 years the Rangers made the playoffs. Were you expecting them to do something?

    They got the end of the stick as far as drawing a playoff opponent. If they had the luck of catching the Indians or Red Sox back then, they'd easily have won a playoff series. But they caught the Yankees all 3 times.
    And by the way...that team wasn't doing anything regardless of whether or not they faced the Yankees. Their pitching was awful and it was a matter of who lost less in the AL West (which was heralded as one of the weakest divisions at the time) who made the playoffs. Lets not have revisionist history here.

    As a fan I want them to do well but they are what they are.

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    I'll sig bet you that the Rangers finish the season with a better record than the Mariners.
    I have a $10 bet with a co-worker on this same criteria.

    I'm going to pimp his Rangers blog since he's asked me to contribute to it as well.

    http://rangersnation.blogspot.com

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    I have a $10 bet with a co-worker on this same criteria.

    I'm going to pimp his Rangers blog since he's asked me to contribute to it as well.

    http://rangersnation.blogspot.com
    I really hope they do well....nothing would me me happier than a true legit contender in 2011.

    This area is baseball starved...they could own this area. Hicks better get it done before someone else finds a way around that "non compete zoning" restriction.

    Cuban says there is a way around it

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    the fact that you have to use new franchises in comparison proves my point a bit.
    No it doesn't. You said yourself that doesn't matter. The bottom line is the Rangers have scoreboard.

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    Their pitching was awful and it was a matter of who lost less in the AL West (which was heralded as one of the weakest divisions at the time) who made the playoffs. Lets not have revisionist history here.
    Aaron Sele was a very solid pitcher in his time here, and Rick ing was a 20 game winner. They always had solid relievers, whether it was Crabtree or Zimmerman or whoever else. John Wetteland was one of the top closers in the game.

    In the AL West back in 96-99, there were the Oakland A's with Jason Giambi, Eric Chavez, Miguel Tejada, Tim Hudson, Kenny Rogers, etc. The Mariners only had the two best players in the game, A-Rod & Griffey, and that guy Randy Johnson....that's all. And the Angels weren't pushovers either.

    I have no idea where you heard the AL West was the weakest division in baseball back then. That's borderline comical. The AL Central was considered far weaker than the AL West, hence the Indians being able to dominate with little resistance.

    And the Rangers won 90, 88, and 95 games those years they made the playoffs. Not exactly weak.

    Let's not have revisionist history here.

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    Mono, those were some bad divisions. VERY BAD.

    AL West Standings 1996
    AL West W L Pct. GB
    Texas Rangers 90 72 .556 --
    Seattle Mariners 85 76 .528 4˝
    Oakland Athletics 78 84 .481 12
    California Angels 70 91 .435 19˝

    AL West Standings 1997
    AL West W L Pct. GB
    Seattle Mariners 90 72 .556 --
    Anaheim Angels 84 78 .519 6
    Texas Rangers 77 85 .475 13
    Oakland Athletics 65 97 .401 25

    AL West Standings 1998
    AL West W L Pct. GB
    Texas Rangers 88 74 .543 --
    Anaheim Angels 85 77 .525 3
    Seattle Mariners 76 85 .472 11˝
    Oakland Athletics 74 88 .457 14

    AL West Standings 1999
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    Texas Rangers 95 67 .586 --
    Oakland Athletics 87 75 .537 8
    Seattle Mariners 79 83 .488 16
    Anaheim Angels 70 92 .432 25

    AL West Standings 2000
    AL West W L Pct. GB
    Oakland Athletics 91 70 .565 --
    Seattle Mariners 91 71 .562 ˝
    Anaheim Angels 82 80 .506 9˝
    Texas Rangers 71 91 .438 20˝

    And those A's teams didn't start taking off until 99 (when the Rangers were terrible). They were on the roster in 98 but were very young.

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    Mono, those were some bad divisions. VERY BAD.

    And those A's teams didn't start taking off until 99 (when the Rangers were terrible). They were on the roster in 98 but were very young.
    look at the other AL divisions and tell me what you see. You see the Yankees dominating and the Indians playing a bunch of nobodies. The AL West had a lot of talent those years.

    To say the Rangers were merely benefactors of a terrible division is horribly inaccurate. They could beat everybody but the Yankees back then, and that's the bottom line. They ran into THE dominating dynasty of our time, and that's the reason they have only one playoff win. If they had the luck of catching Cleveland or Boston in the 1st round of the playoffs, the Rangers would have easily advanced to the ALCS, where they'd promptly get slaughtered by the Yankees like every other team did back then.

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    opening night for the Rangers and they start with a road trip in LA. Interested to see how these "loose" new Rangers come out of the gate.

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    i've heard jennings looks decent, and is actually healthy. he can eat up innings, and used to do decently in coors. could bode well for the strange.

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    opening night for the Rangers and they start with a road trip in LA. Interested to see how these "loose" new Rangers come out of the gate.
    Actually, they play the Mariners today.

    5:40pm on FSN, baby! Pre-game starts at 5pm.

    GO RANGERS!!!!!!!

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    i've heard jennings looks decent, and is actually healthy. he can eat up innings, and used to do decently in coors. could bode well for the strange.
    He's been very good. So has Padilla, he didn't give up a single run all through Spring Training. Of course, McCarthy was placed on the 60-day DL to start the season

    But, if the rest of the pitching staff stays healthy, I guess I can deal with not having McCarthy till June.

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    Actually, they play the Mariners today.

    5:40pm on FSN, baby! Pre-game starts at 5pm.

    GO RANGERS!!!!!!!
    That's right, I had it backwards on the road trip out of the gate. Seattle then LA. Hopefully they can go .500 or better on this trip. That'd be a great start for this team.

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    That's right, I had it backwards on the road trip out of the gate. Seattle then LA. Hopefully they can go .500 or better on this trip. That'd be a great start for this team.
    Anything would be better than last season's start. Something like 1-7 or along those lines.

    With LAA's top two pitchers out, now is the time to pounce and put them in a hole that they will (hopefully) have some trouble digging out of later. Not having both Lackey and Escobar is gonna hurt them bad. The AL West could be up for grabs depending on how their pitching situation shakes out.

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    look at the other AL divisions and tell me what you see. You see the Yankees dominating and the Indians playing a bunch of nobodies. The AL West had a lot of talent those years.
    1996 East Division
    Team W L WL% GB
    NewYorkY NYY 92 70 .568 --
    Bltmore BAL 88 74 .543 4.0
    BostonRS BOS 85 77 .525 7.0
    Toronto TOR 74 88 .457 18.0
    Detroit DET 53 109 .327 39.0

    1997 East Division
    Team W L WL% GB
    Bltmore BAL 98 64 .605 --
    NewYorkY NYY 96 66 .593 2.0
    Detroit DET 79 83 .488 19.0
    BostonRS BOS 78 84 .481 20.0
    Toronto TOR 76 86 .469 22.0

    1998 East Division
    Team W L WL% GB
    NewYorkY NYY 114 48 .704 --
    BostonRS BOS 92 70 .568 22.0
    Toronto TOR 88 74 .543 26.0
    Bltmore BAL 79 83 .488 35.0
    TampaBay TBD 63 99 .389 51.0

    1999 East Division
    Team W L WL% GB
    NewYorkY NYY 98 64 .605 --
    BostonRS BOS 94 68 .580 4.0
    Toronto TOR 84 78 .519 14.0
    Bltmore BAL 78 84 .481 20.0
    TampaBay TBD 69 93 .426 29.0

    You want to try again? Every year there are at least 2 elite teams. Do you always just talk out of your ass before reasearching anything?

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    1996 East Division
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    NewYorkY NYY 92 70 .568 --
    Bltmore BAL 88 74 .543 4.0
    BostonRS BOS 85 77 .525 7.0
    Toronto TOR 74 88 .457 18.0
    Detroit DET 53 109 .327 39.0

    1997 East Division
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    Bltmore BAL 98 64 .605 --
    NewYorkY NYY 96 66 .593 2.0
    Detroit DET 79 83 .488 19.0
    BostonRS BOS 78 84 .481 20.0
    Toronto TOR 76 86 .469 22.0

    1998 East Division
    Team W L WL% GB
    NewYorkY NYY 114 48 .704 --
    BostonRS BOS 92 70 .568 22.0
    Toronto TOR 88 74 .543 26.0
    Bltmore BAL 79 83 .488 35.0
    TampaBay TBD 63 99 .389 51.0

    1999 East Division
    Team W L WL% GB
    NewYorkY NYY 98 64 .605 --
    BostonRS BOS 94 68 .580 4.0
    Toronto TOR 84 78 .519 14.0
    Bltmore BAL 78 84 .481 20.0
    TampaBay TBD 69 93 .426 29.0

    You want to try again? Every year there are at least 2 elite teams. Do you always just talk out of your ass before reasearching anything?
    What part of "The Yankees dominating" does your 5 seconds of clicking on baseball-reference.com that passes as "research" disprove?

    Do you always just talk out of your ass before reading what people post?

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