Manu vs Stack ( at his peak )

[Manudona]

i've seen stackhouse in his prime. he made my eyes water when he declared that he will be next great tar heel and this was when michael jordan wasn't done winning championships. needless to say, jordan made him look like a fool in their first meeting. closest would be penny hardaway before all the foot problems. penny sure could match manu's intensity and habitual embarassing of centers. penny also had the knack of creating something out of nothing with a pretty pass.

[Medvedenko]

Yeah I saw that game back in the day....look at the 3 line it's a little closer and I believe this was the season they moved it closer.

[DAF86]

hey ChuckD this is my response to your last post.

what most people are forgeting is that before coming to the NBA manu has lead teams to success through all his life in leagues that lasts 11 months and that are way more physical (in argentina you have to get hit on the balls to get a foul). i know that the NBA is the best league in the world but the difference between the NBA and europe basketball is shorter than you think (most of the NBA teams wouldn't win the euroleague).
so what i'm trying to say is that to me is clear that manu is capable of leading a Nba team to success and depending on the role players even to a champoinship (imagine a team of calderon, nocioni, scola, rasheed wallace and manu or the pistons team with manu instead of rip).
manu makes teammates better he doesn't need to take 20 shots per game or play 40 minutes a game to lead a team.

[DAF86]

NBA, as in 48 minute games, and 82 of them. He doesn't have the durability to play 38-39 minutes per game at his energy level, and you can't build around anything less.

Tim Duncan's minutes per game: 34.6.

you can't say san antonio isn't build around him.

[himat]

Stack at his peak is the better player to build around if you want him to be the star.

Ginobili is the better sidekick as someone mentioned before.

I cannot see Ginobili carrying a team all the way through the regular season into the playoffs like Stackhouse did, but I cannot see Stackhouse having the success Ginobili has had with Tim Duncan.

[DAF86]

Stack at his peak is the better player to build around if you want him to be the star.

Ginobili is the better sidekick as someone mentioned before.

I cannot see Ginobili carrying a team all the way through the regular season into the playoffs like Stackhouse did, but I cannot see Stackhouse having the success Ginobili has had with Tim Duncan.

when did stackhouse carried a team in the playoffs?... manu has carried teams to championships through all his life at all levels. stop with this comparison it's an insult to manu's greatness. like it or not the guy is a winner and future hall of famer. stackhouse is a choker that has yet to average 40% from the field in a season.

[DAF86]

hey himat you have nothing more to say? i was just warming up. you're becoming one of my favorites on this forum to discuss 'bout BB.

[himat]

hey himat you have nothing more to say? i was just warming up. you're becoming one of my favorites on this forum to discuss 'bout BB.

Oh I am not done. I just never re-looked at this thread.


I did say I could not see Stack being as successful with Tim Duncan as Manu has been...even in his prime.

Stack did carry that Pistons team to the playoffs though. Even though Manu is good for some reason I cannot see him doing that. I am too lazy to dig up the roster, but Stack carried a few teams.

[DAF86]

let me ask you this would you rather have stack at his peak or manu at his peak playing right now for the pistons instead of rip?

[himat]

let me ask you this would you rather have stack at his peak or manu at his peak playing right now for the pistons instead of rip?

Manu because the Pistons, along with the Spurs, are going after a championship. As I posted above, Manu is a better sidekick and he would mesh better with Chauncey, Tay, Sheed and co. than Stack would.

Overall Manu is better, but you can't just say he is better at everything.

[himat]

hey himat you have nothing more to say? i was just warming up. you're becoming one of my favorites on this forum to discuss 'bout BB.

Where are you know?

[DAF86]

Overall Manu is better, but you can't just say he is better at everything.

at everything not but at 3pt shooting, mid range jumpers, attacking the rim, BB IQ, defense, stealing, blocking, rebounding, clutch, passing, making teammates better, floping, being a leader and winning yes.
joking aside i really think you can build around manu. actually a lot of teams have done this around the world and all of them have championships to prove how good of a franchise player manu can be.

[himat]

Okay, that makes sense.

As a GM though. If I had a bad team and was just hoping to make the playoffs I would rather have Stack because I actually have seen him carry a team to the playoffs.

Same thing goes for Manu except with a championship. I'd go after him instead of Stack because we've seen him do very well next to Duncan.

I understand the whole Olympic thing though.

[DAF86]

Okay, that makes sense.

As a GM though. If I had a bad team and was just hoping to make the playoffs I would rather have Stack because I actually have seen him carry a team to the playoffs.

Same thing goes for Manu except with a championship. I'd go after him instead of Stack because we've seen him do very well next to Duncan.

I understand the whole Olympic thing though.

fair enough. man it's nice to argue about basketball without having to insult anyone or be insulted

[himat]

fair enough. man it's nice to argue about basketball without having to insult anyone or be insulted

Right back at ya.

[jacobdrj]

let me ask you this would you rather have stack at his peak or manu at his peak playing right now for the pistons instead of rip?

Stack coming off the bench?

[sassystriker]

It was said that Manu was the one who led his team to back to back championships during his Kinder Bologna days.