Jason Kidd Trade was a disaster

[mavs>spurs2]

Also, this team needs to trade Terry/whatever else is needed to make it work for Magette because Kidd needs athletic guys to run with and we need to get bigger at the 2.

[Purple & Gold]

Randolph and Curry were available for cheap

[mavs>spurs2]

Randolph and Curry were available for cheap

Pass. We would only be fixing one problem while opening up another glaring weakness (post defense). Not to mention Curry is lazy and has a poor work ethic while Randolph has a terrible at ude and could be a cancer.

[mavs>spurs2]

I wonder if the Clippers could possibly be dumber than the Grizzlies were with Gasol and let us rape them for both Magette and Brand, without gutting our entire team of course. If we could somehow pull that off then we would be set until Kidd is just too old to go anymore. It would never happen but a guy can dream, can't he?

[Trainwreck2100]

I wonder if the Clippers could possibly be dumber than the Grizzlies were with Gasol and let us rape them for both Magette and Brand, without gutting our entire team of course. If we could somehow pull that off then we would be set until Kidd is just too old to go anymore. It would never happen but a guy can dream, can't he?

We could pull a Mavs, and sign and trade Terry Porter

[Purple & Gold]

Pass. We would only be fixing one problem while opening up another glaring weakness (post defense). Not to mention Curry is lazy and has a poor work ethic while Randolph has a terrible at ude and could be a cancer.

I think either one would be a nice addition to the Mavs. Curry is still young and one thing he can do is score in the paint. Randolph gets you 20 and 10. And most importantly it wouldn't have cost that much. But I'll guess we'll never know. (Unless the Mavs have a crazy offseason)

[mavs>spurs2]

I think either one would be a nice addition to the Mavs. Curry is still young and one thing he can do is score in the paint. Randolph gets you 20 and 10. And most importantly it wouldn't have cost that much. But I'll guess we'll never know. (Unless the Mavs have a crazy offseason)

If anything I'd take Curry because Dirk/Randolph are both PFs and Randolph's ego is too big to come off the bench. Curry is an interesting idea to think about but his defense is atrocious at times.

[Purple & Gold]

If anything I'd take Curry because Dirk/Randolph are both PFs and Randolph's ego is too big to come off the bench. Curry is an interesting idea to think about but his defense is atrocious at times.

His defense sucks. That's why he can be had for cheap. Well other than his contract.

[ludda]

The mavs weren't winning with Harris (maybe he gave them a better chance since Kidd is not doing well in Avery's offense), but this is the same team that imploded against the Heat and GS...changes should have been made in the offseason, but I guess the mavs FO went with the whole "67 wins" but saw the West get incredibly tougher and made a panic move midseason. Integrating a PG is not a easy thing.

Good thing for Mav fans is at least maybe your FO will be pulling the trigger on uprooting the roster this offseason. The mavs weren't going anywhere before the trade and it looks like they aren't after the trade either. Maybe some other team will be dumb enough to take Terry, Stackhouse, etc off your hands for something decent in return.

[Findog]

The draft picks probably hurt most. But, the Mavs would be no better if they didn't make the trade. They would be no more likely to win a le with Harris and Diop and Hassell. So, I still don't think it was a horrible trade. Long term, maybe 3-4 years down the line, losing those two first round picks might have an impact, but late first round picks are a crap shoot anyway. Harris doesn't make a difference this year or the next couple years for the Mavs. The risk was probably worth it for Kidd. The result desired hasn't exactly come to fruition so far.

We keep our pick this year if we don't make the playoffs.

[MajorMike]

We keep our pick this year if we don't make the playoffs.

It is protected?

[monosylab1k]

Any Mavs fan who is already calling this trade a failure is a ing moron. This team wasn't winning anything with Devin Harris. Diop was playing 10 minutes a game and doing jack . And before talking about how great Harris is doing in NJ, go look at his ing numbers. The guy isn't playing any better in New Jersey despite playing significantly more minutes and being given absolute freedom to do whatever the he wants.

This team needed a shakeup and the front office provided one. So far it hasn't worked out well but you're going to call it a disaster after ONE MONTH?????

If anything, the trade's only problem is that it came too late. The shakeup should have happened before the season started.

And the trade wasn't made just for this season only. There's a whole nother year. What a bunch of shortsighted little es. You guys are ing ridiculous.

The ONLY way this trade can be called a failure is if Devin Harris leads New Jersey to a le and Dallas still doesn't have anything. Until then, shut your dumb asses up with this talk. This season isn't a failure because of Jason Kidd, it's a failure because we still have the same braindead, heartless group of assholes surrounding Dirk & Kidd that failed miserably in Miami and failed miserably in GS.

[MajorMike]

Wow, you eat cheerios in your mom's basement with that mouth? Do you have a script that every 10th word has to be a swear?

Its ok, I know what that's like; my wife is a teacher and some of her 8th graders are the same way.

[monosylab1k]

Wow, you eat cheerios in your mom's basement with that mouth? Do you have a script that every 10th word has to be a swear?

Its ok, I know what that's like; my wife is a teacher and some of her 8th graders are the same way.

America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.

Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat

[stretch]

Any Mavs fan who is already calling this trade a failure is a ing moron. This team wasn't winning anything with Devin Harris. Diop was playing 10 minutes a game and doing jack . And before talking about how great Harris is doing in NJ, go look at his ing numbers. The guy isn't playing any better in New Jersey despite playing significantly more minutes and being given absolute freedom to do whatever the he wants.

This team needed a shakeup and the front office provided one. So far it hasn't worked out well but you're going to call it a disaster after ONE MONTH?????

If anything, the trade's only problem is that it came too late. The shakeup should have happened before the season started.

And the trade wasn't made just for this season only. There's a whole nother year. What a bunch of shortsighted little es. You guys are ing ridiculous.

The ONLY way this trade can be called a failure is if Devin Harris leads New Jersey to a le and Dallas still doesn't have anything. Until then, shut your dumb asses up with this talk. This season isn't a failure because of Jason Kidd, it's a failure because we still have the same braindead, heartless group of assholes surrounding Dirk & Kidd that failed miserably in Miami and failed miserably in GS.

Couldn't have said it better myself. If they had done this trade at the start of the season, things would probably be looking a lot different. It takes time for a PG to learn a new system and get accustomed to new players. I'd say that Kidd has done a damn good job so far though. If Avery will simply back off a bit and let Kidd just go out there and play some basketball, this team is still without question a le contender.

[monosylab1k]

the ONLY problems with this trade are 1) the horrible horrible timing of the trade, and 2) Avery still being the coach.

if the front office is competent enough to get a couple pieces that fit with Kidd, and Avery either backs the off or gets fired, I think this team is a top 3 team in the league next season.

[stretch]

the ONLY problems with this trade are 1) the horrible horrible timing of the trade, and 2) Avery still being the coach.

if the front office is competent enough to get a couple pieces that fit with Kidd, and Avery either backs the off or gets fired, I think this team is a top 3 team in the league next season.

I think we should pretty much keep this same team together for the most part. The only thing we need to add is an athletic slashing swingman. It would have been nice if we could have gotten Desmond Mason in the past offseason, but oh well... I really wish we could have Marquis Daniels back, if Avery would actually play him, but I'm really not sure who is going to be available...

[monosylab1k]

I think we should pretty much keep this same team together for the most part.

meh, except for Dirk & Kidd I'd move anybody I could. This whole team is diseased. While Avery is the biggest problem, you have to fault the players for deciding to tune him out as well. New guys will be willing to listen to Avery.

I'd love to see Terry, Howard, & Stack all outta here if the right deal comes along and we can get back a piece that fits in with Dirk & Kidd.

[DaDakota]

Cuban blew up the team's chemistry, he panicked....just like I said back before the trade....big mistake....

DD

[monosylab1k]

Cuban blew up the team's chemistry, he panicked....just like I said back before the trade....big mistake....

DD

Rocket Fan has shown his ignorance many times before, just disregard this and move along people...

[stretch]

yea, but who are we going to get in return?

i also hear that Okafor is going to be a FA this coming summer... if the Mavs could land him... holy cow.

[DaDakota]

Rocket Fan has shown his ignorance many times before, just disregard this and move along people...

Yes, if by ignorance, you mean righteousness.

I don't expect Mavs fans to take a realistic look....some people are just happy to be fans.

Look at it from the outside, and you can see the leaks in the dam.......the Mavs blew it....should have kept the same team that won 67 games together for another run....just tweaked instead of overhauled.

Meh, who cares, glad Cuban meddles so much it is good for my team.

And I get to watch Jason Kidd and his HORRIBLE contract saddle the Mavs with his lack of shooting for another year....

I mean the guy could not even lead a team above .500 in the Leastern conference.....LOL....his best days are 3+ years behind him.

DD

[monosylab1k]

yea, but who are we going to get in return?

i also hear that Okafor is going to be a FA this coming summer... if the Mavs could land him... holy cow.

i believe he's a restricted FA, but that would be nice.

Unless they shock the world and go on a tear to finish this season, Terry & Howard have to go. I was mistaken in thinking that Dirk was psychologically damaged after the Miami & GS series'.......he's just fine, the guys who are damaged beyond repair are those two. Terry will show up from time to time, but he's not going to be dependable enough come playoff time. Same with Howard.

[stretch]

i believe he's a restricted FA, but that would be nice.

Unless they shock the world and go on a tear to finish this season, Terry & Howard have to go. I was mistaken in thinking that Dirk was psychologically damaged after the Miami & GS series'.......he's just fine, the guys who are damaged beyond repair are those two. Terry will show up from time to time, but he's not going to be dependable enough come playoff time. Same with Howard.

Yea, I just don't see who is out there that we can get for them though...

[monosylab1k]

Yea, I just don't see who is out there that we can get for them though...

We all want Maggette. I'm sure something can be worked out in a S&T if he opts out and the Clippers don't want to lose him for nothing. Terry & Howard are both solid players in the league, they just don't have a place on this team anymore.