No I think he clinched it. Paul was awful from the field as well, I think Kobe clinched it. There is too much "he's waited for too long" feeling around, that I don't think voters are gonna look elswhere this time.
So Kobe had a big game and his team won and beat the Hornets....is he the MVP now...nope, they'll find an excuse again.... but if it was the other way around CP3 would have it locked up.
No I think he clinched it. Paul was awful from the field as well, I think Kobe clinched it. There is too much "he's waited for too long" feeling around, that I don't think voters are gonna look elswhere this time.
That's a stupid reason to give a guy MVP, but it's been happening for years. Whoever got rooked this year is a lock to win it next year if he has a remotely decent season.
Yeah, there is very little that separates Kobe and Paul in my eyes. But Kobe will get it because he is due. That's how it will go, rightfully or not.
Finally it seems Kobe will be getting his dues.
It's a travesty that the best player in the game has not finished better than 3rd in the MVP voting. The Kobe hate is quite apparent.
Kobe deserves it Paul has had an amazing year as well Lebron too ...
so you going to award a guy cause his due for one?
and not rewarding to another guy cause his young and has a potential to win one in the future?
Not because he's due. You can't fault Kobe's season can you?
If your gonna give it to kobe cuz its due..THIS is definately the year to do it...cuz he atleast deserves it.
Word. You could say that Paul has gone 82 games without either a Gasol or Bynum calibur player.
Really....Actually the Lakers have no current allstars on their team other than Kobe.
I will agree though, if Kobe had both Bynum and Pau for the entire 82 games, it wouldn't be a discussion either as we'd win close to 70 games.
I think it's more like it's a toss-up between the two and if you want to use the fact that "he's due" as the deciding factor, then you can see it happening. To me, it's not clear either way. My deciding factor would be which is the better player. I think Kobe is the better player.
DUE doesnt mean ,
you dont want something given to you, cause you got some bias advantage over another person....now is that equal opportunity?
Look I think that Kobe probably deserves it.
But the Laker fans have to forget this idea that guy is due. Exept 06, never did he have a season where the body of work showed him deserving it. And 06 was a very close year, with a bunch of great candidates. He averaged 35, yet Jordan averaged 37 in 88 (or 87, I am not sure) and still didn't win it.
Kobe had the good luck of being drafted by a team that was well within a shot of winning the championship. However by the time he was in his his prime, the team found itself in a position to rebuild. Usually a good young player goes to a bad team, and they slowly start to build around him. By the time he is in his prime, the team also has put enough of a cast to support the guy and he is able to lead them to a top record, while also being at the peak of his game.
That's not how it went for Kobe, his fault or not. And the 'value' in this league is proven only through wins. As long as never had a great record to go along with his stats, he never deserved an MVP. 08 is finally the first year when he is putting it all together. He may win it or not, but he is due nothing. If he has a season or two like these again and still doesn't win it, than he is due.
It's CP3....
Kobe deserved the MVP in 2006. 81 points, outscoring the entire Mavs team in 3 quarters? Kobe made the NBA all the buzz again. Individually, he had people talking about the NBA again. That's MVP worthy.
Then on the Team side, he took his team to the #7 seed in the Western Conference. That wasn't as good as some of the other candidates but look at the teammates.
Aside from Lamar Odom, you tell me which one of those would have been a starter on ANY team (at that point in their career)
Smush Parker
Kwame Brown
Luke Walton
Lamar Odom
Sasha Vujacic
Brian Cook
Devean George
Jim Jackson
Aaron McKie
Ronny Turiaf
Chris Mihm
I mean seriously, that team's a friggin' joke...they should have been struggling to win even 20 games but they made the Playoffs as a #7.
Then look at Dirk's team and Nash's team and tell me how many guys are NBA starters.
Truth is Kobe took Lamar and an NBDL team to the Playoffs...he should have gotten an MVP for that along with the outstanding individual performance.
But too much Haterade getting passed around for him to win his MVP.
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