Is the race really over?

[MannyIsGod]

To think that the Democrats would stay home on election day after record shattering primary turnouts is pretty out there smeagol.

[MannyIsGod]

There was a quote a couple of weeks ago where it said approximately 20% of Obama supporters would not vot for Hillary and vice versa.

I'm sure GGA remembers the thread.

Well I just posted one that shows the opposite. Which is right?

[xrayzebra]

This from the gys who call democrats, dimm-o-craps . . .

How old are you again, ray?

Old enough to know what his name is and have the
ability and right to use it. How old are you and why
haven't I got that right. Because you think it is wrong.
Typical liberal view. You think I am wrong so therefore
I am.

[smeagol]

Uh, what does the intentions of those who put the Super Delegate system into place have to do with you posting a talking point for the Clinton Camp?

The intentions are irrelevant at this point considering that the Super Delegate system is in place and working right now. Clinton simply isn't getting enough of them to win.

There is no magical Super Delegate day where they all delcare; they declare a little at a time on almost a daily basis and as you can see by the math I've posted in this thread Clinton needs to up her April gains by about 400% in order to have a shot at the nomination.

At the climax of her campaign she's not even coming close to that and its pretty much downhill from this point on. There is no state nearly as monumental as PA left and she's going to lose ground in both Super Delegate totals and Pledged delegate totals from here on out - Especially after and during the NC primary.


She just can't get enough delegates - pledged OR super - to win. No amount of posted talking points is going to change that.

Peewee is one of the Hillary supporters which will not vote for Obama.

That is why he is posting what he is posting.

[smeagol]

Well I just posted one that shows the opposite. Which is right?

I guess we will have to wait until November.

Nevertheless, you can take back that about me being disinformed (misinformed).

[xrayzebra]

I guess we will have to wait until November.

Nevertheless, you can take back that about me being disinformed.

Is "disinformed" a word?

[smeagol]

Old enough to know what his name is and have the
ability and right to use it. How old are you and why
haven't I got that right. Because you think it is wrong.
Typical liberal view. You think I am wrong so therefore
I am.

You accuse me of being a liberal and boutons and pimpo accuse me of being a conservative

In any case, if you don't see how it is childlish calling somebody by his middle name (and not mentioning his first and his last name) simply because it happens to coincide with the name of the former Iraqi president, a country that the US has gone to war with . . . well . . . there is not much I can do.

How's that camapaign against the dimm-o-craps going?

[smeagol]

Is "disinformed" as word?

Yes.

It's when you are more than misinformed

[MannyIsGod]

I guess we will have to wait until November.

Nevertheless, you can take back that about me being disinformed.

Yeah, I'll take that back when you stop saying Democrats should lose based on the posts of a non democrat like PeeWee. You've been saying this for some time and I'm not sure what you're basing it off of other than the posters you keep referencing Spurstalk political posters.

Smeagol, regardless of what NBADan may say this forum is not a good outlet for objective US political coverage.

[xrayzebra]

You accuse me of being a liberal and boutons and pimpo accuse me of being a conservative

In any case, if you don't see how it is childlish calling somebody by his middle name (and not mentioning his first and his last name) simply because it happens to coincide with the name of the former Iraqi president, a country that the US has gone to war with . . . well . . . there is not much I can do.

How's that camapaign against the dimm-o-craps going?

Reading my mind are you. Now you know what I was
thinking. Well you are wrong my friend. Never really
entered my mind. I was just being sarcastic like I said,
because it makes the Obama supports mad when it is
used. Even though it is his name.

Oh, one think I forgot about that is off limits. His big
ears. Cant forget that. He brought it up himself that he
didn't like it.

And "disinformed" is not a word according to M-W
dictionary. Now "disinformation" is.

[MannyIsGod]

And if you think that the Clintons are going to let the Super-delegates just give her nomination to this upstart, you don't know the Clintons. It's not over.

I LOVE this argument from people. The Clintons aren't done! They still have tricks up their sleaves! They're the Clintons!

They've been the Clintons this whole time. They've been using their tricks this whole time.

And they're losing.

[xrayzebra]

I LOVE this argument from people. The Clintons aren't done! They still have tricks up their sleaves! They're the Clintons!

They've been the Clintons this whole time. They've been using their tricks this whole time.

And they're losing.

Manny, I am telling you she isn't. She is taking the
states that count. And don't think the super's wont
see that. Obama has taken a lot states that just don't
count.

[smeagol]

Yeah, I'll take that back when you stop saying Democrats should lose based on the posts of a non democrat like PeeWee. You've been saying this for some time and I'm not sure what you're basing it off of other than the posters you keep referencing Spurstalk political posters.

Smeagol, regardless of what NBADan may say this forum is not a good outlet for objective US political coverage.

I'm not only basing it on what happens in the political forum (and peewee is not the only liberal who has said it).

As I said before, there was a link posted some time ago that has said so.

[MannyIsGod]

Manny, I am telling you she isn't. She is taking the
states that count. And don't think the super's wont
see that. Obama has taken a lot states that just don't
count.

The only thing that counts is the delegate count. Obama's winning that. There is no provision for if you win "x" amount of "BIG IMPORTANT STATES" and you win the nomination.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm not only basing it on what happens in the political forum (and peewee is not the only liberal who has said it).

As I said before, there was a link posted some time ago that has said so.

Well you didn't cite anything outside the forums man. You cited what certain posters here have said and you're citing a link that may or may not exsist on these forums.

How am I supposed to think you're basing your opinion on the matter off something other than what you use to back it up?

[xrayzebra]

The only thing that counts is the delegate count. Obama's winning that. There is no provision for if you win "x" amount of "BIG IMPORTANT STATES" and you win the nomination.

And the super's are the delegates that are really going to
count, especially this time.

It's going to be a sight to behold. I just wished I could be
a fly on the wall when it all comes down. Wow, wouldn't
that be something. Old Al Sharpton better get his
bullhorn tuned up and his demonstrators all ready. He
is going to need them.

[PixelPusher]

I LOVE this argument from people. The Clintons aren't done! They still have tricks up their sleaves! They're the Clintons!

They've been the Clintons this whole time. They've been using their tricks this whole time.

And they're losing.

That and the idea that all of these superdelegates worship and obey the Clintons and place their wishes above their own political careers or their own sense of the future of the party.

[smeagol]

Well you didn't cite anything outside the forums man. You cited what certain posters here have said and you're citing a link that may or may not exsist on these forums.

How am I supposed to think you're basing your opinion on the matter off something other than what you use to back it up?

Because you are God.

You should be able to read my mind

[MannyIsGod]

That and the idea that all of these superdelegates worship and obey the Clintons and place their wishes above their own political careers or their own sense of the future of the party.

Or that the super delegate trends are going to magicaly reverse and swing in a wildly opposite direction.

I guess people will believe what they want no matter how far out of touch with reality it is.

[MannyIsGod]

Because you are God.

You should be able to read my mind

Smeagol the times I've tried its given me a headache :p

[xrayzebra]

That and the idea that all of these superdelegates worship and obey the Clintons and place their wishes above their own political careers or their own sense of the future of the party.

They don't worship the Clintons. But damn sure don't think
they are not going to go with who they think can win in November. If it hairlips the world, that is who they are going
to go with. If they think Obama can win they will go with
him and if they Hillary can win they will go with her. Hey,
they might even go with a third party. Don't rule that
out. Gore may still have a chance.

[smeagol]

If they think Hussein can win they will go with him and if they Hillary can win they will go with her. Hey,
they might even go with a third party. Don't rule that
out. Gore may still have a chance.

Fixed

[MannyIsGod]

They don't worship the Clintons. But damn sure don't think
they are not going to go with who they think can win in November. If it hairlips the world, that is who they are going
to go with. If they think Obama can win they will go with
him and if they Hillary can win they will go with her. Hey,
they might even go with a third party. Don't rule that
out. Gore may still have a chance.

They're going with who can win in November and who their cons uations wnat them to go with. These are elected officials for the most part and you're really mistaken if their cons uations don't weigh in. Look at what happend to some of the delegates who declared for Clinton from the DC area. After they election where Barack crushed her, all of a sudden they had a change of heart.

OOPS.

Not only that, but its important to note that the majority of the Super delegates have already declared. There are under 300 left to declare, from which Clinton would need to bridge a gap of whats going to be around 100 super delegates. She has only a 25 SD lead or so which has been shrinking for months but she's all of a sudden going to start picking them up at a pace to earn her 3/4ths of the remaining SDs?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH.

And Amare is going to play defense. And Pop is going to dye his hair blue. And Rasho is going to win a dunk contest.

Yup.

[Don Quixote]

I LOVE this argument from people. The Clintons aren't done! They still have tricks up their sleaves! They're the Clintons!

They've been the Clintons this whole time. They've been using their tricks this whole time.

And they're losing.

I take it you won't vote for Clinton in the general. I'm actually with you on that one. Stick to your principles. Vote for Obama anyway.

[MannyIsGod]

I take it you won't vote for Clinton in the general. I'm actually with you on that one. Stick to your principles. Vote for Obama anyway.

Clinton won't be on the ballot. No one's gonna vote for her in the fall.